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Title: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: v6man54deg              Geffd on 08 February 2013, 10:29:22
Vauxhall are now moving into installing LPG within the factory for the first time - I am one of the lucky few that have been taken on to train and install the LPG system to the astra sports tourer.  off to Germany in a couple of weeks to start training - will defo be converting the MV6 once i  am certified  :y
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 February 2013, 10:30:25
Well you know where to come if you want to know how to do it properly after the training.  :y ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 08 February 2013, 10:48:16
Vauxhall are now moving into installing LPG within the factory for the first time - I am one of the lucky few that have been taken on to train and install the LPG system to the astra sports tourer.  off to Germany in a couple of weeks to start training - will defo be converting the MV6 once i  am certified  :y

a good job with future..  with constantly rising fuel prices.. Good luck :y
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 February 2013, 11:44:55
It's interesting that there is renewed interest in factory fit LPG. Is this for the UK market or elsewhere?

All the best with the new job. :y
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: PhilRich on 08 February 2013, 13:33:18
Congratulations and Well Done on getting such a good break jobwise!  :y
Now, when can I bring my Install down for you to Certify? :D ;)
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: TheBoy on 08 February 2013, 13:51:27
Congrats on the new job :y

Now why is mine a complete arsehole at idle until warm (no need to answer, I know what the fault is, and have the parts, and running out of excuses ;D)
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: andyc on 08 February 2013, 14:01:30
Are they sending you to Russelsheim for training, if so there are a couple of good bars in the town square. If you are and get the chance try and get a look around classic car collection

Hope they are now going to make a better job than they did on the old Astras etc

Andy

Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: v6man54deg              Geffd on 08 February 2013, 18:50:38
Yeah good old Russelsheim - used to have to go there all the time with the V6 plant - I gather you worked for Vauxhall then?
Are they sending you to Russelsheim for training, if so there are a couple of good bars in the town square. If you are and get the chance try and get a look around classic car collection

Hope they are now going to make a better job than they did on the old Astras etc

Andy
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: v6man54deg              Geffd on 08 February 2013, 18:51:35
It's interesting that there is renewed interest in factory fit LPG. Is this for the UK market or elsewhere?

All the best with the new job. :y

All European markets
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: STMO123 on 08 February 2013, 18:55:55
I wonder if they'll do what they did with diesels. Make them so expensive that it takes about ten years to get your momey back through fuel savings.
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 08 February 2013, 19:02:41
I wonder if they'll do what they did with diesels. Make them so expensive that it takes about ten years to get your momey back through fuel savings.

Second hand is the way to go  :y

Last Veccy LPG factory fit i bought a few years ago.....At auction...3 years old...70k miles....£4050  :y Sold it 12 months later for £3500 after id rented it out for £3650 (only had it rented for 6 months)  :y
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: v6man54deg              Geffd on 08 February 2013, 19:03:46
I wonder if they'll do what they did with diesels. Make them so expensive that it takes about ten years to get your momey back through fuel savings.

We are only doing the 1.4 astra - which i imagine will be much more expensive although they are saving money converting them in the factory instead of sending them to an outside company
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: Lazydocker on 08 February 2013, 19:51:54
I wonder if they'll do what they did with diesels. Make them so expensive that it takes about ten years to get your momey back through fuel savings.

We are only doing the 1.4 astra - which i imagine will be much more expensive although they are saving money converting them in the factory instead of sending them to an outside company

I'd be interested to know what kit they are using ;)

Good luck with the course... It's not complicated and mostly common sense so you'll be fine :y
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: Vamps on 08 February 2013, 20:02:23
Congratulations on the new Job........ :y :y
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: feeutfo on 08 February 2013, 21:40:25
I thought they did LPG before though.... ? :-\


Best of luck with job. Sounds good. :y
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: Lazydocker on 08 February 2013, 21:46:22
I thought they did LPG before though.... ? :-\


Best of luck with job. Sounds good. :y

Never fitted at the factory though ;)
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: 05omegav6 on 10 February 2013, 05:19:43
Irmscher are offering Lpg kits on their site too :y
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: feeutfo on 10 February 2013, 08:18:56
Holden have been offering lpg on cirtain models for a while in Oz.

Maybe Vx have been watching closely.


I do wonder if prices of lpg will go up, if the govt see another Tax oppertunity.
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: tunnie on 10 February 2013, 08:26:05
Holden have been offering lpg on cirtain models for a while in Oz.

Maybe Vx have been watching closely.


I do wonder if prices of lpg will go up, if the govt see another Tax oppertunity.

Thats been the worry for years, still ok for now though  :)

If they do nobble it though, means end of petrol ownership for me  :'(
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: TheBoy on 10 February 2013, 10:59:42
Holden have been offering lpg on cirtain models for a while in Oz.

Maybe Vx have been watching closely.


I do wonder if prices of lpg will go up, if the govt see another Tax oppertunity.
Well Asda in Wycombe has gone up 2p this week :(

On the upside, that Shell (formerly Total) garage in Towcester are now selling LPG again for the first time since the summer.
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: tunnie on 10 February 2013, 11:00:14
Holden have been offering lpg on cirtain models for a while in Oz.

Maybe Vx have been watching closely.


I do wonder if prices of lpg will go up, if the govt see another Tax oppertunity.
Well Asda in Wycombe has gone up 2p this week :(

On the upside, that Shell (formerly Total) garage in Towcester are now selling LPG again for the first time since the summer.

Damn  :(
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 February 2013, 11:31:13
So will the design be altered to allow for the LPG kit, or will it still be a retro fit/conversion done in the Vx factory?  :-\
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 February 2013, 13:59:48
Holden have been offering lpg on cirtain models for a while in Oz.

Maybe Vx have been watching closely.


I do wonder if prices of lpg will go up, if the govt see another Tax oppertunity.

That's a tricky one... They are committed to "Greener" fuel, which LPG is, so have, thus far, agreed to not reduce the difference in duty (petrol/LPG) by more than 1p per year until 2016 (I think :-\) ;)

That said, it wouldn't surprise me ::)

Well Asda in Wycombe has gone up 2p this week :(

On the upside, that Shell (formerly Total) garage in Towcester are now selling LPG again for the first time since the summer.

Don't forget though, LPG price is related to Domestic Gas price, not petrol/crude oil ;) It always goes up during the winter months when demand is high but (normally) comes down again during the summer. Tends to have about a 6 week delay on domestic prices which have recently been hiked  ::)
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: v6man54deg              Geffd on 10 February 2013, 15:19:29
So will the design be altered to allow for the LPG kit, or will it still be a retro fit/conversion done in the Vx factory?  :-\

Doughnut tank in the spare wheel well, harness is different and the gas fill is incorporated into the fuel filler flap
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: Rods2 on 10 February 2013, 17:37:19
I know is the US GM have V6 and V8 factory fitted LPG systems. I have often wondered what the work would be to put their dual fuel 265hp 3.6 V6 and gearbox into a Miggy, if it would fit?
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: v6man54deg              Geffd on 10 February 2013, 22:09:31
When i was working at Russelsheim once they had an Omega there with a cadalac northstar V8 in it - they were thinking of producing it.
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: tunnie on 10 February 2013, 22:12:03
When i was working at Russelsheim once they had an Omega there with a cadalac northstar V8 in it - they were thinking of producing it.

Well documented, canned we believe due cooling issues at Autobahn speeds. Real issues with exhaust manifold exits on the (UK) passenger side.

It could have been solved, sure there would have been a solution. But maybe maybe just too expensive  :(
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: symes on 10 February 2013, 22:35:19
Seem to remember in 80's Diesel was really cheap so car manufacturers got to making more dies hell cars and all of a sudden Govt decide to wack price of Dies hell up- LPG will be next-wait and see :y
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 February 2013, 22:37:24
Seem to remember in 80's Diesel was really cheap so car manufacturers got to making more dies hell cars and all of a sudden Govt decide to wack price of Dies hell up- LPG will be next-wait and see :y

Yep, I'm not holding my breath on the governments pledge not to increase duty massively but it would go completely against all the "green" pledges ::)
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: symes on 10 February 2013, 22:46:57
mate they said same about dies hell-did'nt they--thats why Govt gets away with so much -it's because we al shout & moan about things but dont do anything about it-look at French mate they smashed petrol stations up-kept the price down though eh :y
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 February 2013, 23:20:32
The excuse they used for hiking diesel prices (amongst others) was the high particulate content. So bad for the environment  ;)
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: feeutfo on 11 February 2013, 07:01:48
When i was working at Russelsheim once they had an Omega there with a cadalac northstar V8 in it - they were thinking of producing it.

Well documented, canned we believe due cooling issues at Autobahn speeds. Real issues with exhaust manifold exits on the (UK) passenger side.

It could have been solved, sure there would have been a solution. But maybe maybe just too expensive  :(
Sure it was a Northstar? Ls1 surely ? Northstar is front wheel drive transverse, and is enoooormous.
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: TheBoy on 11 February 2013, 08:46:59
When i was working at Russelsheim once they had an Omega there with a cadalac northstar V8 in it - they were thinking of producing it.

Well documented, canned we believe due cooling issues at Autobahn speeds. Real issues with exhaust manifold exits on the (UK) passenger side.

It could have been solved, sure there would have been a solution. But maybe maybe just too expensive  :(
Sure it was a Northstar? Ls1 surely ? Northstar is front wheel drive transverse, and is enoooormous.
Sure TIS says its a Northstar. Can't check at moment.
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: 05omegav6 on 11 February 2013, 09:15:10
When i was working at Russelsheim once they had an Omega there with a cadalac northstar V8 in it - they were thinking of producing it.

Well documented, canned we believe due cooling issues at Autobahn speeds. Real issues with exhaust manifold exits on the (UK) passenger side.

It could have been solved, sure there would have been a solution. But maybe maybe just too expensive  :(
Sure it was a Northstar? Ls1 surely ? Northstar is front wheel drive transverse, and is enoooormous.

Ok I know it's Wikipedia,  but...clue is in the first paragraph :y

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northstar_engine_series  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northstar_engine_series)

LH2 variant :-\
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: v6man54deg              Geffd on 11 February 2013, 11:20:47
When i was working at Russelsheim once they had an Omega there with a cadalac northstar V8 in it - they were thinking of producing it.

Well documented, canned we believe due cooling issues at Autobahn speeds. Real issues with exhaust manifold exits on the (UK) passenger side.

It could have been solved, sure there would have been a solution. But maybe maybe just too expensive  :(
Sure it was a Northstar? Ls1 surely ? Northstar is front wheel drive transverse, and is enoooormous.
Yeah it was the northstar engine - but with longitudinal arrangement - did fill the engine compartment they had it on show there,
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: Lazydocker on 11 February 2013, 11:27:26
When i was working at Russelsheim once they had an Omega there with a cadalac northstar V8 in it - they were thinking of producing it.

Well documented, canned we believe due cooling issues at Autobahn speeds. Real issues with exhaust manifold exits on the (UK) passenger side.

It could have been solved, sure there would have been a solution. But maybe maybe just too expensive  :(
Sure it was a Northstar? Ls1 surely ? Northstar is front wheel drive transverse, and is enoooormous.
Yeah it was the northstar engine - but with longitudinal arrangement - did fill the engine compartment they had it on show there,

Any chance you can "Have a word"? There's a market for new V8 Omega's ;) Although I will admit, it's limited ::)
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: v6man54deg              Geffd on 11 February 2013, 11:34:37
When i was working at Russelsheim once they had an Omega there with a cadalac northstar V8 in it - they were thinking of producing it.

Well documented, canned we believe due cooling issues at Autobahn speeds. Real issues with exhaust manifold exits on the (UK) passenger side.

It could have been solved, sure there would have been a solution. But maybe maybe just too expensive  :(
Sure it was a Northstar? Ls1 surely ? Northstar is front wheel drive transverse, and is enoooormous.
Yeah it was the northstar engine - but with longitudinal arrangement - did fill the engine compartment they had it on show there,

Any chance you can "Have a word"? There's a market for new V8 Omega's ;) Although I will admit, it's limited ::)
Im sure that market was filled with the monaro - which looks very like an Omega
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: Lazydocker on 11 February 2013, 12:25:56
When i was working at Russelsheim once they had an Omega there with a cadalac northstar V8 in it - they were thinking of producing it.

Well documented, canned we believe due cooling issues at Autobahn speeds. Real issues with exhaust manifold exits on the (UK) passenger side.

It could have been solved, sure there would have been a solution. But maybe maybe just too expensive  :(
Sure it was a Northstar? Ls1 surely ? Northstar is front wheel drive transverse, and is enoooormous.
Yeah it was the northstar engine - but with longitudinal arrangement - did fill the engine compartment they had it on show there,

Any chance you can "Have a word"? There's a market for new V8 Omega's ;) Although I will admit, it's limited ::)
Im sure that market was filled with the monaro - which looks very like an Omega
Sort of... It may look like an Omega but lacks all the toys ;)
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: 05omegav6 on 11 February 2013, 15:53:44
Not to mention two doors, one seat and a boot ::)
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: TheBoy on 11 February 2013, 17:59:55
When i was working at Russelsheim once they had an Omega there with a cadalac northstar V8 in it - they were thinking of producing it.

Well documented, canned we believe due cooling issues at Autobahn speeds. Real issues with exhaust manifold exits on the (UK) passenger side.

It could have been solved, sure there would have been a solution. But maybe maybe just too expensive  :(
Sure it was a Northstar? Ls1 surely ? Northstar is front wheel drive transverse, and is enoooormous.
Sure TIS says its a Northstar. Can't check at moment.
Nope, my bad.

5.7l OHV pushrod engine. Has to be LS1, not Northstar

Ref, TIS article 00029430, published 30th June 2000


Back to the drawing board ;D
Title: Re: Just got a new Job - LPG Installations team
Post by: 05omegav6 on 12 February 2013, 01:45:17
Ho didley he hum ::) on a positive note the LS1 is a whole lot less complicated and more reliable :y