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Title: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: joshwyatt on 13 February 2013, 01:12:38
No pictures yet   ::)

Now, I've got the disappointing bit over here we go:

I'd thought I’d update this thread as I progress with the restoration of x2 Omega's. Returning them to former police specification as they were when in service with Thames Valley Police.

OV03 LJL (GM03 HYU) – Omega 3.2 V6 Manual saloon, black. Unmarked pro-active unit
OV03 LHY – Omega 3.2 V6 Manual estate, white. Marked – Traffic vehicle.

Firstly, a little about the cars;

OV03 LJL - Omega 3.2 V6 Special manual, Z20R black sapphire, LSD, 125,000 miles.

For those of you familiar with Road Wars, as seen on Sky 1 and Pick TV this vehicle used to feature on there.
It was registered on ghost plates, bearing the mark GM03 HYU and was designated TV-37. It was primarily used by 'Rosie' and 'Daz' (Nope, our pink darlin' hasn't been moonlighting)  ;D

With the exception of a few vehicles, most Thames Valley Police vehicles are registered at the Oxford DVLA LO, meaning the registrations will start with OU, OV or OY.
This had been picked up by the criminal fraternity...so some unmarked vehicles wore ‘ghost’ plates. In the case of my Omega, it wore GM03 HYU, and when it came to retire the vehicle it reverted back to its original OV03 LJL.

I purchased it directly from TVP at the end of 2010 when it was disposed of. I think I paid around about £900 for it. It had been bought with the intention of selling.

Mid 2012 I was contacted by the owner who had bought it from me, he was looking for another manual Omega. I sold him my 2003 2.6 Elite manual, and took LJL back as P/X. When he'd purchased the vehicle from me, we had transplanted a fair few things from his old 1999 3.0 Elite to it, 17'' wheels, shale leather interior, boot lid with spoiler, wood dash trim etc.
So, I now had to go about removing all the added Elite bits fitted.
I sourced a good set of 16'' CD spec alloys as fitted to V6 Special's from Sam Burton, then bought a complete Omega for the cloth spec interior. Kai purchased that complete Omega now fitted with the shale leather from LJL. Boot lid has all been sorted with great thanks to Zirk.

So, it was then on to the police equipment and the fitment.
This is where it starts to get expensive;
I have the following,
Whelen 500 LED blue, with clear lenses x4. X2 for the front bumper in the fend off position, and x2 for internal fitting on the rear headrests.
Whelen 500 strobe blue, with blue lenses for grille fitment and strobe power unit.
Whelen Alpha siren unit and speaker
Rear flip matrix LED sign to display the Police Stop / Follow Me etc.
Tracker unit for the passenger sun visor
Cleartone CM9000 radio head unit
Alternating headlight and rear fog light flash
Rear internal boot mounted blue lamps for when the boot is open
Flip out in dash monitor with forward facing video camera and ANPR interface
TSS Autovison speed measuring controller
Switch panel
Nokia phone kit
Tomtom sat nav and extra mounts on N/S of windscreen
Mag-Lite 3D Cell torches with mounts and traffic wand attachment
Cleartone telephone style microphone and cradle
‘Think Road Safety’ VED holder as per in service vehicles -
Next service due sticker – Thanks to MrMoffat

It's also soon off to Daz for the cambelt and water pump and general magic as he normally performs.

Thankfully, OV03 LHY is on loan currently, so I’ve only got one to contend with. That will have the correct RVG supplied livery fitted along with the whelen edge lightbar and all other equipment including TVP crest, wording etc.
So, hopefully I’ll start to upload photo’s soon!
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: YZ250 on 13 February 2013, 10:22:23
Nice one Josh. Look forward to the photo's.  :y 

Don't happen to have a list of current active reg numbers do you.................you know .......just in case.........what with me being local?   ;) ;) ;D ;D Worth a try.  ;D ;D

Hmmm, initials JW and collects police cars, a patterns forming here.  :y

Regards
Alan
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: Varche on 13 February 2013, 10:26:22
Very interesting, look forward to the photos.

Will you loan it out for film and TV work in the future?
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: SMD on 13 February 2013, 10:43:21
LJL would be my ideal second car.

Didn't you also pick up an unregistered ex plod estate that was in storage for years? Whats the plan for that one?
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: Del Boy on 13 February 2013, 13:16:06
Josh, are you in need of any other Light Bars?
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: joshwyatt on 01 September 2013, 21:25:59
Phewww, watch out for the dust in here  ::)

You'll finally get some photo's tomorrow, the estate is going for the livery fitting tomorrow morning. Had a busy week with it, replacement alternator courtesy of Albs to get it going properly

We all know what a white Omega estate looks like, so I haven't bothered with before photo's. It came out of the bodyshop this week, had the tailgate resprayed along with both rear arches and minor bits all over. Now looks excellent, and is all ready for the fitting tomorrow  :y
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 01 September 2013, 21:51:52
Did HYU have the batman sticker on the back?

Watching this with interest  ;D
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 01 September 2013, 21:55:23
Shame they never released a DVD box set of Road Wars, The early seasons before the Vectra's took over :P where enjoyable.. Look forward to the pictures  :y
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: joshwyatt on 01 September 2013, 22:02:17
Did HYU have the batman sticker on the back?

Watching this with interest  ;D

Yes, it did indeed!

The unmarked one is pretty much done, bar the important job of wiring stuff in. Then it needs to visit the bodyshop and have a bit of general tidying, then it's done.
I'd imagine in about a month both will be fully completed.
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: 05omegav6 on 01 September 2013, 23:00:11
Phewww, watch out for the dust in here  ::)

You'll finally get some photo's tomorrow, the estate is going for the livery fitting tomorrow morning. Had a busy week with it, replacement alternator courtesy of Albs to get it going properly

We all know what a white Omega estate looks like, so I haven't bothered with before photo's. It came out of the bodyshop this week, had the tailgate resprayed along with both rear arches and minor bits all over. Now looks excellent, and is all ready for the fitting tomorrow  :y
A busy couple of weeks 8) looking forward to the pics :y
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: joshwyatt on 02 September 2013, 19:03:28
Finally, we have some photo's;

A 6am start, followed by a drive down to Weston-Super-Mare today resulted in the full Thames Valley Police livery being fitted. It must be noted that a big thanks to Thames Valley Police and RVG is due for their assistance in the project!

Also a big thanks to Taxi Al and Albs!

The lightbar, roof ID and a few small bits are to be finished off, then the project is complete.

Photo's of the unmarked one will follow when that's completed.

(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/P1011445_zps3d4edb52.jpg) (http://s674.photobucket.com/user/joshwyatt/media/P1011445_zps3d4edb52.jpg.html)

(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/P1011451_zpscd177a28.jpg) (http://s674.photobucket.com/user/joshwyatt/media/P1011451_zpscd177a28.jpg.html)

(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/P1011448_zpsfc221e15.jpg) (http://s674.photobucket.com/user/joshwyatt/media/P1011448_zpsfc221e15.jpg.html)

(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/P1011447_zpsa695dd5d.jpg) (http://s674.photobucket.com/user/joshwyatt/media/P1011447_zpsa695dd5d.jpg.html)

(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/P1011446_zps3d31cf88.jpg) (http://s674.photobucket.com/user/joshwyatt/media/P1011446_zps3d31cf88.jpg.html)

(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/P1011452_zpsb371aae6.jpg) (http://s674.photobucket.com/user/joshwyatt/media/P1011452_zpsb371aae6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: 05omegav6 on 02 September 2013, 19:11:11
Looking good 8)
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: TheBoy on 02 September 2013, 19:15:29
Photo's of the unmarked one will follow when that's completed.
When I get the digital display back to you  :-[
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: omegod on 02 September 2013, 19:19:43
LJL would be my ideal second car.

Didn't you also pick up an unregistered ex plod estate that was in storage for years? Whats the plan for that one?

Now this i would like to hear more about!!
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 02 September 2013, 19:20:11
That looks fantastic, nice one. Look forward to seeing them in the flesh sometime, perhaps...
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: joshwyatt on 02 September 2013, 19:40:30
Photo's of the unmarked one will follow when that's completed.
When I get the digital display back to you  :-[

There's no rush TB. I've got coolant for you, and various items for Tunnie...I'll pop over to Brackley sometime soon and collect it  :y
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: joshwyatt on 02 September 2013, 19:42:25
That looks fantastic, nice one. Look forward to seeing them in the flesh sometime, perhaps...

Thank you!
If you should ever be around Oxford, you'd be more than welcome to come and have a look. I hope to take both these vehicles to various shows aswell...so you never know when you might see them  ::)
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: albitz on 02 September 2013, 19:56:56
Apoligies for hijacking your thread Josh,but you did express an interest in seeing his wonderful,immaculate old classic. Ive taken the pic from its best angle btw. :y  ;D ;D

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff500/Albs59/DSCF1829_zpsa90bd970.jpg) (http://s1238.photobucket.com/user/Albs59/media/DSCF1829_zpsa90bd970.jpg.html)

Got a brand new 12 months MOT on it this afternoon. :) :)
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: P6UL K on 03 September 2013, 00:22:30
Brilliant thread Josh!!
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 03 September 2013, 00:32:51
Stunning, Look forward to interior pic's and pic's of the unmarked batmobile  8) :y

Will these be for car/police shows, For hire for TV series, films etc... ?
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: zirk on 03 September 2013, 00:48:59
Josh, did I mention to you a friend of mine runs a 3M sign company, thinking decals ?, and your sister car OV03 LJN 3.2 is now running sweet with a remap, performance exhaust and gas flowed top end and goes like stink.

And did you ever get rid of that piece of shite you were driving around in?, sorry couldn't resist.  ;)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg299/zirk-photos/Josh1-1.jpg) 
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 03 September 2013, 09:46:24
Josh, did I mention to you a friend of mine runs a 3M sign company, thinking decals ?, and your sister car OV03 LJN 3.2 is now running sweet with a remap, performance exhaust and gas flowed top end and goes like stink.

interesting, got a thread regards the 3.2?
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: TheBoy on 03 September 2013, 10:57:05
and your sister car OV03 LJN 3.2 is now running sweet with a remap, performance exhaust and gas flowed top end and goes like stink.
Don't tell that Wyatt bloke, but his unmarked ex-plod does go rather well, although the tyres are utter shite great fun ::)
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: joshwyatt on 03 September 2013, 21:30:12
Josh, did I mention to you a friend of mine runs a 3M sign company, thinking decals ?, and your sister car OV03 LJN 3.2 is now running sweet with a remap, performance exhaust and gas flowed top end and goes like stink.

And did you ever get rid of that piece of shite you were driving around in?, sorry couldn't resist.  ;)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg299/zirk-photos/Josh1-1.jpg)

 ;D  ;D  ;D it's still sat dead with a fuelling issue currently.
It'd be good to see LJN one day, maybe have a nice little day out with the twin cars  ::)
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: joshwyatt on 03 September 2013, 21:31:09
and your sister car OV03 LJN 3.2 is now running sweet with a remap, performance exhaust and gas flowed top end and goes like stink.
Don't tell that Wyatt bloke, but his unmarked ex-plod does go rather well, although the tyres are utter shite great fun ::)

I think I'll treat it to x4 Michelin Primacy's eventually...I know they're your favourite tyre  :y
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: joshwyatt on 03 September 2013, 21:40:06
Hopefully tomorrow I'll upload photo's of the unmarked Omega as it is now. Below are photo's taken from when it was in service. The images are taken from Road Wars;

(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/OV03LJL001_zps0de30e90.png) (http://s674.photobucket.com/user/joshwyatt/media/OV03LJL001_zps0de30e90.png.html)

(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/OV03LJL003_zps2397d810.png) (http://s674.photobucket.com/user/joshwyatt/media/OV03LJL003_zps2397d810.png.html)

(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/OV03LJL002_zps03b62bd8.png) (http://s674.photobucket.com/user/joshwyatt/media/OV03LJL002_zps03b62bd8.png.html)
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: tunnie on 03 September 2013, 21:44:55
Nice, I really should "borrow" the keys for that one sometime when you are not looking  ;D
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 September 2013, 12:55:47
First day out for the Battenburged Beastie  8)

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y486/05omegav6/IMG_20130908_124009_zps10a70624.jpg)

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y486/05omegav6/IMG_20130908_114647_zpsec6190c4.jpg)

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y486/05omegav6/IMG_20130908_114546_zps78b733b5.jpg)
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: TheBoy on 08 September 2013, 13:42:58
Looking great. Bit concerned about the dodgy looking geezer in the 2nd pic...
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 September 2013, 14:03:16
 ;D
Fear not TB the car has been locked most of the day :y
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: zirk on 08 September 2013, 15:08:39
;D
Fear not TB the car has been locked most of the day :y

Looks about as happy as a Bulldog chewing a Wasp!

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg299/zirk-photos/josh2.jpg)
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 September 2013, 15:56:06
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: MrMoffat on 01 October 2013, 20:31:16
Josh, any update with LHY!
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: joshwyatt on 20 November 2013, 21:22:57
Quick update for LHY, new lightbar now fitted which looks much better. Just need to get the roof numbers added then the exterior is done!

(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/P1010045_zpsbc6bef5e.jpg) (http://s674.photobucket.com/user/joshwyatt/media/P1010045_zpsbc6bef5e.jpg.html)

(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/P1010043_zpsf54e5ebb.jpg) (http://s674.photobucket.com/user/joshwyatt/media/P1010043_zpsf54e5ebb.jpg.html)

OV03 LJL exterior, you can see LED's fitted to the front bumper, they are also fitted in the rear headrest, along with the plethora of aerials.

(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/P1011458_zps72709ddc.jpg) (http://s674.photobucket.com/user/joshwyatt/media/P1011458_zps72709ddc.jpg.html)

(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/P1011464_zpse0231932.jpg) (http://s674.photobucket.com/user/joshwyatt/media/P1011464_zpse0231932.jpg.html)
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: symes on 20 November 2013, 21:26:53
saw a black one like that this afternoon -waited to let it out of Cowley police station :y :y
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: tunnie on 20 November 2013, 21:32:40
You going to look into renting it out for TV/Production work Josh? Looks like new  :y :y
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: 05omegav6 on 20 November 2013, 21:37:32
Both coming along nicely  8)
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: joshwyatt on 06 March 2014, 14:56:06
Update for LJL;

The bodywork was in pretty poor condition, so finally I put it in with the bodyshop for some attention. Here's it part way through, with work being done to the bonnet, both sides, front and rear bumper, mirror caps and other bits here and there.

The aerials will be refitted once it's all done.

(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/P1010068_zpsacd16da3.jpg) (http://s674.photobucket.com/user/joshwyatt/media/P1010068_zpsacd16da3.jpg.html)

(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/P1010070_zps0d73a15b.jpg) (http://s674.photobucket.com/user/joshwyatt/media/P1010070_zps0d73a15b.jpg.html)

(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/P1010067_zpsb11fcd81.jpg) (http://s674.photobucket.com/user/joshwyatt/media/P1010067_zpsb11fcd81.jpg.html)

(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/joshwyatt/P1010072_zps0f40ceb7.jpg) (http://s674.photobucket.com/user/joshwyatt/media/P1010072_zps0f40ceb7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: zirk on 06 March 2014, 15:43:47
Slow down Josh, thats starting to look better than my LJN.  ::)

Looking good, mate.  ;)
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 06 March 2014, 17:41:44
By heck mate, that's coming along nicely :y
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 March 2014, 18:11:19
You're supposed to add bits, not take them off ;D

Looking good though :y
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: Martin_1962 on 06 March 2014, 19:26:53
Used any bits yet?
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: omegod on 06 March 2014, 19:43:44
LJL would be my ideal second car.

Didn't you also pick up an unregistered ex plod estate that was in storage for years? Whats the plan for that one?

Now this i would like to hear more about!!

Ahem !  ;)
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: TheBoy on 06 March 2014, 19:54:28
The unmarked one is looking better than it did when I last saw it :y.
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: wiliferus on 16 March 2014, 09:20:44
Just stumbled across this thread. OP, if you're interested, I drove LHY in anger out of Taplow for a few years. Not sure I could provide you with much info, but let me know if you want to know more!  :)
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: joshwyatt on 16 March 2014, 19:03:30
Used any bits yet?

Indeed so Martin, it's now sporting the wheels with great tyres from you and the cruise stalk...thank you  :y
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: joshwyatt on 16 March 2014, 19:05:01
LJL would be my ideal second car.

Didn't you also pick up an unregistered ex plod estate that was in storage for years? Whats the plan for that one?

Now this i would like to hear more about!!

Ahem !  ;)

Sorry, I'd only just seen this...it's proving to be more aggro then it's worth with the DVLA and registering it. But we'll get there, eventually  ;D
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: joshwyatt on 16 March 2014, 19:05:50
Just stumbled across this thread. OP, if you're interested, I drove LHY in anger out of Taplow for a few years. Not sure I could provide you with much info, but let me know if you want to know more!  :)

Excellent, I'd be very interested...PM sent  :y
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: omegod on 16 March 2014, 20:46:21
LJL would be my ideal second car.

Didn't you also pick up an unregistered ex plod estate that was in storage for years? Whats the plan for that one?

Now this i would like to hear more about!!

Ahem !  ;)

Sorry, I'd only just seen this...it's proving to be more aggro then it's worth with the DVLA and registering it. But we'll get there, eventually  ;D
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Sounds like the dream find omega, hope its delivery mileage and mint
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: Martin_1962 on 17 March 2014, 10:20:46
Used any bits yet?

Indeed so Martin, it's now sporting the wheels with great tyres from you and the cruise stalk...thank you  :y

Picture please :y
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: TheBoy on 17 March 2014, 18:12:18
Used any bits yet?

Indeed so Martin, it's now sporting the wheels with great tyres from you and the cruise stalk...thank you  :y
Did we enable the cruise on that one?  I lose track of these things more often than you lose the NCDC pairing codes!
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: joshwyatt on 17 March 2014, 19:39:24
Used any bits yet?

Indeed so Martin, it's now sporting the wheels with great tyres from you and the cruise stalk...thank you  :y
Did we enable the cruise on that one?  I lose track of these things more often than you lose the NCDC pairing codes!

 ;D  ;D
I don't think cruise has been enabled. When you borrowed it, you mentioned you might enable cruise. But it's now got a cruise stalk and clutch switch fitted, but cruise doesn't work. We'll see if we can arrange to meet, with maybe a spot of lunch  :y
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: TheBoy on 17 March 2014, 19:44:49
Used any bits yet?

Indeed so Martin, it's now sporting the wheels with great tyres from you and the cruise stalk...thank you  :y
Did we enable the cruise on that one?  I lose track of these things more often than you lose the NCDC pairing codes!

 ;D  ;D
I don't think cruise has been enabled. When you borrowed it, you mentioned you might enable cruise. But it's now got a cruise stalk and clutch switch fitted, but cruise doesn't work. We'll see if we can arrange to meet, with maybe a spot of lunch  :y
Well, I overpromised/under-delivered there then, as I didn't have a Tech2 at the time ;D

We'll sort something
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 10 August 2021, 17:05:52
This is an old topic but relevant... I'm restoring an old Omega bobby car and I'm wondering how the rear blue lights were attached to the headrests in Josh's unmarked... Anyone have any ideas?

I'm loathe to just start screwing* because my passengers mightn't appreciate a 6 inch woodscrew coming through the base of their skull in a collision...

*Stop it
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: STEMO on 10 August 2021, 17:34:15
This is an old topic but relevant... I'm restoring an old Omega bobby car and I'm wondering how the rear blue lights were attached to the headrests in Josh's unmarked... Anyone have any ideas?

I'm loathe to just start screwing* because my passengers mightn't appreciate a 6 inch woodscrew coming through the base of their skull in a collision...

*Stop it
Al Gollum knows just about everything about these cars.
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 August 2021, 23:06:28
The headrests are foam backed fabric/leather covering a blow moulded plastic box. Self tappers such as those used in the centre console/dash trim would be an ideal size. Run the cable behind the fabric and out the underneath and cable tie it to the leg. Can then drop the wires down the side bolsters and into the boot/control wiring gubbins  :y
Title: Re: J W's Police Omega Thread
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 11 August 2021, 08:20:38
The headrests are foam backed fabric/leather covering a blow moulded plastic box. Self tappers such as those used in the centre console/dash trim would be an ideal size. Run the cable behind the fabric and out the underneath and cable tie it to the leg. Can then drop the wires down the side bolsters and into the boot/control wiring gubbins  :y

Perfect, thank you!

Had a message from JW himself via other means saying much the same. :y