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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Lizzie_Zoom on 17 February 2013, 12:34:34
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Now I bet someone is going to say "we've seen that already X days ago", but last night TV was crap and I found myself watching that testerone fuelled programme, Top Gear.
Anyway, they were all having one of their "races", but last night with a difference. Two, James May ( :-* :-* :-* :-*), and the Hamster were going by public transport from Wembley Stadium to Milan Stadium in Italy, whilst Jeremy Clarkson went by car to the same place. Who ever got their first would win one ticket to see a match.
JC got to drive a Mustang Shelby 500GT V8, but lost! However, that wasn't the point, the issue was he rubbished the Mustang!!! :o :o :o :o My favourite car; well the 1968 Mustang Fastback anyway! :D :D :D :D :D
To my surprise he found it only had a fuel capacity of 50 litres, so doing 14-15 mpg that wasn't good and made him repeatedly have to refill his tank on the journey.
But it was the interior that got the most criticism; he found it "like a 1970s Escort", rattling and generally very noisy! No surprise he also found the American designed interior plastic and uninspiration, picking on particularly the manual adjustable seats, when a European car at that level would have electric seats. He reckoned that was why the car new was just £35K.
The sound from the engine was gorgeous, but at that MPG you are paying for it. As I have commented on in another thread, in America that MPG is no worry in a V8 compared to the UK with our fuel prices!
In all it was disappointing to hear such a beautiful, iconic, car being rubbished, but hey ho I can understand why! ::) ::) ::) ;)
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Lizzie, we saw the programme, we know. ;)
But what he didn't really go into is, compared to the vxr8, the mustang has crap brakes and can't do corners. Comparatively speking if course. And IMO the interior on the vxr8 is much better.
Ford concentrated on bhp above all else by the looks. Which might be an admirable trait,
until the realisation that engine tuning is the easiest after market area to fiddle with.
It wins the " biggest chav stripe" competition hands down and is covered in pointless tinsel.
... And yet, I still rather like it.
Although not as much as a vxr8 ;)
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steering wheel on wrong side too....
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Lizzie, we saw the programme, we know. ;)
But what he didn't really go into is, compared to the vxr8, the mustang has crap brakes and can't do corners. Comparatively speking if course. And IMO the interior on the vxr8 is much better.
Ford concentrated on bhp above all else by the looks. Which might be an admirable trait,
until the realisation that engine tuning is the easiest after market area to fiddle with.
It wins the " biggest chav stripe" competition hands down and is covered in pointless tinsel.
... And yet, I still rather like it.
Although not as much as a vxr8 ;)
I won my own bet then Chris! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
I also still love the look and the sound but the Vx car, you are right, has everything we expect in Europe. ;) :y
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Lizzie, we saw the programme, we know. ;)
But what he didn't really go into is, compared to the vxr8, the mustang has crap brakes and can't do corners. Comparatively speking if course. And IMO the interior on the vxr8 is much better.
Ford concentrated on bhp above all else by the looks. Which might be an admirable trait,
until the realisation that engine tuning is the easiest after market area to fiddle with.
It wins the " biggest chav stripe" competition hands down and is covered in pointless tinsel.
... And yet, I still rather like it.
Although not as much as a vxr8 ;)
Not when compared to the current VXR8, that is truly hideous!
http://used.cars.networkq.co.uk/used-cars/vxr8//vxr8/6.2%20V8%20LS3/vehicle/1521373?r_num=1&ls.logged=false&# (http://used.cars.networkq.co.uk/used-cars/vxr8//vxr8/6.2%20V8%20LS3/vehicle/1521373?r_num=1&ls.logged=false&#)
Reminds me of Vicky Pollard with extra bling for some reason. Truly awful. Rather have the Mustang than the above piece of shit!
Why couldnt they just have stuck with sensible, like in the prev gen VXR8 instead of over-designing every nook and cranny of that poor car.
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Lizzie, we saw the programme, we know. ;)
But what he didn't really go into is, compared to the vxr8, the mustang has crap brakes and can't do corners. Comparatively speking if course. And IMO the interior on the vxr8 is much better.
Ford concentrated on bhp above all else by the looks. Which might be an admirable trait,
until the realisation that engine tuning is the easiest after market area to fiddle with.
It wins the " biggest chav stripe" competition hands down and is covered in pointless tinsel.
... And yet, I still rather like it.
Although not as much as a vxr8 ;)
Not when compared to the current VXR8, that is truly hideous!
http://used.cars.networkq.co.uk/used-cars/vxr8//vxr8/6.2%20V8%20LS3/vehicle/1521373?r_num=1&ls.logged=false&# (http://used.cars.networkq.co.uk/used-cars/vxr8//vxr8/6.2%20V8%20LS3/vehicle/1521373?r_num=1&ls.logged=false&#)
Reminds me of Vicky Pollard with extra bling for some reason. Truly awful. Rather have the Mustang than the above piece of shit!
Why couldnt they just have stuck with sensible, like in the prev gen VXR8 instead of over-designing every nook and cranny of that poor car.
And that is £45K I learn!! :o :o :o
So............let's think...................a Mustang Shelby 500GT at £35K....................then £10K bringing it up to European standards............................that would be a result for me!! :y :y :y
Oh............hang..............I haven't got £35K let alone the extra £10K!! :'( :'( :'( :'( ;D ;D
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Thats 45k for a 2 year old used car! I am sorry but Vx have truly screwed up the new VXR8 in styling and pricing.
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Thats BMW M5 money, appeal for me of Monaro and such, its M3/M3 performance, but with Vauxhall running costs.
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Have it :P http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-FORD-MUSTANG-BOSS-YELLOW-/190798759474?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c6c7e0632
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Actually slightly cheaper than a M5 and probably a whole lot cheaper to buy parts for/service. The M3 used to cost £995 for a major service with no major part replacement included. Invlove a few part changes and you would get little change from £3k.
http://www.approved.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/bmwauc/details/0,,1156___ask-7%40adm-xx,00.html?ch=_V0JTRlY5MjA5MERYOTU1NjQ=&btp=1x24-distance_ASC|list (http://www.approved.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/bmwauc/details/0,,1156___ask-7%40adm-xx,00.html?ch=_V0JTRlY5MjA5MERYOTU1NjQ=&btp=1x24-distance_ASC|list)
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Have it :P http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-FORD-MUSTANG-BOSS-YELLOW-/190798759474?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c6c7e0632
Yup, thats the old one with crappy brakes and poor handling.
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Have it :P http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-FORD-MUSTANG-BOSS-YELLOW-/190798759474?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c6c7e0632
Yup, thats the old one with crappy brakes and poor handling.
Shelby Cobra racing brakes perfectly detailed
· EBC Brake Pads
· Magnum shock absorbers (Lowered racing quality)
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Lizzie, we saw the programme, we know. ;)
But what he didn't really go into is, compared to the vxr8, the mustang has crap brakes and can't do corners. Comparatively speking if course. And IMO the interior on the vxr8 is much better.
Ford concentrated on bhp above all else by the looks. Which might be an admirable trait,
until the realisation that engine tuning is the easiest after market area to fiddle with.
It wins the " biggest chav stripe" competition hands down and is covered in pointless tinsel.
... And yet, I still rather like it.
Although not as much as a vxr8 ;)
I know its dynamically flawed but so do I :-[
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Lizzie, we saw the programme, we know. ;)
But what he didn't really go into is, compared to the vxr8, the mustang has crap brakes and can't do corners. Comparatively speking if course. And IMO the interior on the vxr8 is much better.
Ford concentrated on bhp above all else by the looks. Which might be an admirable trait,
until the realisation that engine tuning is the easiest after market area to fiddle with.
It wins the " biggest chav stripe" competition hands down and is covered in pointless tinsel.
... And yet, I still rather like it.
Although not as much as a vxr8 ;)
Not when compared to the current VXR8, that is truly hideous!
http://used.cars.networkq.co.uk/used-cars/vxr8//vxr8/6.2%20V8%20LS3/vehicle/1521373?r_num=1&ls.logged=false&# (http://used.cars.networkq.co.uk/used-cars/vxr8//vxr8/6.2%20V8%20LS3/vehicle/1521373?r_num=1&ls.logged=false&#)
Reminds me of Vicky Pollard with extra bling for some reason. Truly awful. Rather have the Mustang than the above piece of shit!
Why couldnt they just have stuck with sensible, like in the prev gen VXR8 instead of over-designing every nook and cranny of that poor car.
And that is £45K I learn!! :o :o :o
So............let's think...................a Mustang Shelby 500GT at £35K....................then £10K bringing it up to European standards............................that would be a result for me!! :y :y :y
Oh............hang..............I haven't got £35K let alone the extra £10K!! :'( :'( :'( :'( ;D ;D
Fibber. You own half of Kent, which includes a castle or two. :-* :-* :-*
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Lizzie, we saw the programme, we know. ;)
But what he didn't really go into is, compared to the vxr8, the mustang has crap brakes and can't do corners. Comparatively speking if course. And IMO the interior on the vxr8 is much better.
Ford concentrated on bhp above all else by the looks. Which might be an admirable trait,
until the realisation that engine tuning is the easiest after market area to fiddle with.
It wins the " biggest chav stripe" competition hands down and is covered in pointless tinsel.
... And yet, I still rather like it.
Although not as much as a vxr8 ;)
Not when compared to the current VXR8, that is truly hideous!
http://used.cars.networkq.co.uk/used-cars/vxr8//vxr8/6.2%20V8%20LS3/vehicle/1521373?r_num=1&ls.logged=false&# (http://used.cars.networkq.co.uk/used-cars/vxr8//vxr8/6.2%20V8%20LS3/vehicle/1521373?r_num=1&ls.logged=false&#)
Reminds me of Vicky Pollard with extra bling for some reason. Truly awful. Rather have the Mustang than the above piece of shit!
Why couldnt they just have stuck with sensible, like in the prev gen VXR8 instead of over-designing every nook and cranny of that poor car.
And that is £45K I learn!! :o :o :o
So............let's think...................a Mustang Shelby 500GT at £35K....................then £10K bringing it up to European standards............................that would be a result for me!! :y :y :y
Oh............hang..............I haven't got £35K let alone the extra £10K!! :'( :'( :'( :'( ;D ;D
Fibber. You own half of Kent, which includes a castle or two. :-* :-* :-*
Thanks OPti! ::) ::) ::)
Now my secret is out! :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
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Nobody said anything about the Gts. ;D lets get the right car shall we..? ;D
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Didn't JC own a similar Mustang at some point a couple of years ago?If I remember rightly it kept breaking down and after he'd waited for it's delivery in the first place he finished up sending it back for all sorts of problems to be sorted.Personally I always preferred the Dodge Charger R/T to the Mustang.I'm thinking here of the "baddies" car in the Bullit car chase.
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Didn't JC own a similar Mustang at some point a couple of years ago?If I remember rightly it kept breaking down and after he'd waited for it's delivery in the first place he finished up sending it back for all sorts of problems to be sorted.Personally I always preferred the Dodge Charger R/T to the Mustang.I'm thinking here of the "baddies" car in the Bullit car chase.
Nope, it was a Ford GT :y
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Ah,I stand corrected,
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The lanky bastard tried to fit in an original GT 40 from the sixties once. He couldn't..... :-[
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Lizzie,
if a '68 Mustang is your dream car, here's a piece of advice: never, ever drive one! A standard one, in good nick drives like a knackered, drum braked 1100 Escort, but with decent performance. If you're brave/stupid enough to use the throttle. That's not to say that some straightforward upgrades won't improve it, but that's more to the level of a 3.0l Capri.
My boss has an '05 Mustang GT, stock 4.6 with a manual box. It looks great from a distance, but when you get close to it, it looks like somebody increased the vehicle's size by 20% before sending the files off to be manufactured. Unfortunately, it drives the same way. It sounds great, but for a car with 260hp, you're left wondering what they're actually doing. It rolls a lot, being softly sprung, but both the handling and ride are poor, largely due to the 3 link live axle propping up the back. The brakes aren't up to the job, and the interior is really shoddy - look at a 15 year old Korean car for a decent comparison. The reason for much of this obvious: when she bought it new, the American sticker price was about $25,000, which at the time might have bought a V6 Hyundai coupe here. That would make for a difficult decision!
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Hired a new one 1n 2010 when we were in the USA believe me they are great, the 4.6 is as sweet as a nut they are just great looking cars & they make you feel good when you drive them, as for the handling I had no problems & we did give it some welly!! I would have one tomorrow wouldn't bother me even if it was a left hooker.
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Lizzie,
if a '68 Mustang is your dream car, here's a piece of advice: never, ever drive one! A standard one, in good nick drives like a knackered, drum braked 1100 Escort, but with decent performance. If you're brave/stupid enough to use the throttle. That's not to say that some straightforward upgrades won't improve it, but that's more to the level of a 3.0l Capri.
My boss has an '05 Mustang GT, stock 4.6 with a manual box. It looks great from a distance, but when you get close to it, it looks like somebody increased the vehicle's size by 20% before sending the files off to be manufactured. Unfortunately, it drives the same way. It sounds great, but for a car with 260hp, you're left wondering what they're actually doing. It rolls a lot, being softly sprung, but both the handling and ride are poor, largely due to the 3 link live axle propping up the back. The brakes aren't up to the job, and the interior is really shoddy - look at a 15 year old Korean car for a decent comparison. The reason for much of this obvious: when she bought it new, the American sticker price was about $25,000, which at the time might have bought a V6 Hyundai coupe here. That would make for a difficult decision!
Thanks Nick! :y :y
Yes, it is so often the case in life, and especially with cars, what you imagine something that promises so much but it just fails to deliver ::) ::) :(
I think really I still have a fantasy of having a 1968 Fastback with Steve McQueen inside driving me around! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :-* :-* :-*
Well, a girl can dream can't she?! :D :D :D :D :D ;)
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Lizzie,
if a '68 Mustang is your dream car, here's a piece of advice: never, ever drive one! A standard one, in good nick drives like a knackered, drum braked 1100 Escort, but with decent performance. If you're brave/stupid enough to use the throttle. That's not to say that some straightforward upgrades won't improve it, but that's more to the level of a 3.0l Capri.
My boss has an '05 Mustang GT, stock 4.6 with a manual box. It looks great from a distance, but when you get close to it, it looks like somebody increased the vehicle's size by 20% before sending the files off to be manufactured. Unfortunately, it drives the same way. It sounds great, but for a car with 260hp, you're left wondering what they're actually doing. It rolls a lot, being softly sprung, but both the handling and ride are poor, largely due to the 3 link live axle propping up the back. The brakes aren't up to the job, and the interior is really shoddy - look at a 15 year old Korean car for a decent comparison. The reason for much of this obvious: when she bought it new, the American sticker price was about $25,000, which at the time might have bought a V6 Hyundai coupe here. That would make for a difficult decision!
Thanks Nick! :y :y
Yes, it is so often the case in life, and especially with cars, what you imagine something that promises so much but it just fails to deliver ::) ::) :(
I think really I still have a fantasy of having a 1968 Fastback with Steve McQueen inside driving me around! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :-* :-* :-*
Well, a girl can dream can't she?! :D :D :D :D :D ;)
With a touch of CGI fantasy may become reality, Lizzie. :y :-* :-*
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mustangs are awesome if only for the looks.
of course clarkson will think its rubbish cos everything he drives has a 200k price tag.
and lets be honest, the public can echo clarksons words and say it doesnt drive well... but come on none of us really ever drive like that.
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I agree that is the best word to describe their looks awesome , if ever you see one in your rear view mirror I am sure most of you would agree, I managed at best 19mpg but at £2.00 (approx) a gallon that wasn't a problem .
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Being an engineer the Mustang would not cut it.
To many chassis and interior compromises, the only thing that ticks the box is the engine and looks. Thats to much of a compromise for such a vehicle.
As for the VXR8, colour is everything :y
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/vauxhall/vxr8/black-vxr8-with-12000-worth-of-upgrades/563203