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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: albitz on 18 February 2013, 19:03:01
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BBC news have been on strike today.I had a look earlier and they were still broadcasting programmes,just different presenters (strikebreakers presumably).
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Shows how much attention I pay to the telly,I'd not noticed this at all!
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Yes, but honestly I haven't missed them! Nowadays you can get news coverage everywhere. :D :D
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Yes, but honestly I haven't missed them! Nowadays you can get news coverage with or without their left wing bias everywhere. :D :D
Fixed. :y ;D
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Yes, but honestly I haven't missed them! Nowadays you can get news coverage with or without their left wing bias everywhere. :D :D
Fixed. :y ;D
Clever you cheeky chappie! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y
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BBC news have been on strike today.I had a look earlier and they were still broadcasting programmes,just different presenters (strikebreakers presumably).
Or non union members, Albs. Thought you'd like that idea. ???
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Strikebreaking non union members. :P ;D......I do like the idea,in the circumstances* they are striking in. :y
* we wont accept any carriages being uncoupled from the gravy train.
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The BBC shouldn't be funded by a tax, which is why I don't pay it! :y Also, they break their contract with the public everyday by not reporting news in a fair, impartial and politically unbiased way.
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The BBC shouldn't be funded by a tax, which is why I don't pay it! :y Also, they break their contract with the public everyday by not reporting news in a fair, impartial and politically unbiased way.
Your not the only one, I don't pay TV tax to a load of Marxists, who views I don't want to know. I'm now feel much better with no TV. :y :y :y
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there a lot less biased than some outer chanels i could mention so it evans it up dosent it
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An opportunity for creative militancy for those that can't help themselves...?
The BBC is legendary IMO, and long may it continue. A clear out has been needed for a while. News night for example, the biggest fe@k up in BBC history for a long while, and yet, the programme is not broadcast due to strike action.
Stuff em. Sack the lot of em in front if their family's. ...incompetence and a union membership card is no qualification or right to a job.
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there a lot less biased than some outer chanels i could mention so it evans it up dosent it
No. It's not a case of comparing of 'evening things up'. If those other channels are funded by private revenue they can broadcast whatever opinions or political bias they want, subject to regulation and audience interest of course. The BBC is funded by the public, and therefore should be completely impartial.
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there a lot less biased than some outer chanels i could mention so it evans it up dosent it
No. It's not a case of comparing of 'evening things up'. If those other channels are funded by private revenue they can broadcast whatever opinions or political bias they want, subject to regulation and audience interest of course. The BBC is funded by the public, and therefore should be completely impartial.
It is! Just doesn't happen to present the same opinion as yours. ;)
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there a lot less biased than some outer chanels i could mention so it evans it up dosent it
No. It's not a case of comparing of 'evening things up'. If those other channels are funded by private revenue they can broadcast whatever opinions or political bias they want, subject to regulation and audience interest of course. The BBC is funded by the public, and therefore should be completely impartial.
It is! Just doesn't happen to present the same opinion as yours. ;)
true chris :y
if everybody had the same opinion the world would be a very dull place i think the beeb do a great job whith the funds they get
i was wondering if byje beeb have to pay tax on the funds they get?
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there a lot less biased than some outer chanels i could mention so it evans it up dosent it
No. It's not a case of comparing of 'evening things up'. If those other channels are funded by private revenue they can broadcast whatever opinions or political bias they want, subject to regulation and audience interest of course. The BBC is funded by the public, and therefore should be completely impartial.
It is! Just doesn't happen to present the same opinion as yours. ;)
There's no comparison to be made with other channels. You don't know what my opinion is so you can't say whether it's the same as mine or not. ;)
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there a lot less biased than some outer chanels i could mention so it evans it up dosent it
No. It's not a case of comparing of 'evening things up'. If those other channels are funded by private revenue they can broadcast whatever opinions or political bias they want, subject to regulation and audience interest of course. The BBC is funded by the public, and therefore should be completely impartial.
It is! Just doesn't happen to present the same opinion as yours. ;)
true chris :y
if everybody had the same opinion the world would be a very dull place i think the beeb do a great job whith the funds they get
i was wondering if byje beeb have to pay tax on the funds they get?
It's not the BBC's job to offer opinion. They should present information in a fair and impartial way, without favouring any viewpoint. Simples 8)
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/9873914/New-BBC-boss-Lord-Hall-is-already-getting-it-wrong-says-Peter-Sissons.html
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/douglas-murray/2013/02/the-bbcs-great-public-service-cancelling-the-today-programme/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9869855/BBC-accused-of-leftist-bias-after-hiring-former-Labour-minister.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_BBC
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/09/02/bbc-chief-admits-massive-left-wing-bias-vows-remedy-imbalance
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/left-wing-bias-written-into-the-bbcs-dna-veteran-bbc-broadcaster/
http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2010/09/lecture-thompson-bbc-interview
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/7976318/BBC-was-biased-against-Thatcher-admits-Mark-Thompson.html
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there a lot less biased than some outer chanels i could mention so it evans it up dosent it
No. It's not a case of comparing of 'evening things up'. If those other channels are funded by private revenue they can broadcast whatever opinions or political bias they want, subject to regulation and audience interest of course. The BBC is funded by the public, and therefore should be completely impartial.
It is! Just doesn't happen to present the same opinion as yours. ;)
There's no comparison to be made with other channels. You don't know what my opinion is so you can't say whether it's the same as mine or not. ;)
The implication is, that if an impartial opinion is accused as otherwise, then the accusers opinion by default is not impartial in itself. Therefor, instantly you've removed your own credibility.
In other words, dilligaf what you think? ;D ;)
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/9873914/New-BBC-boss-Lord-Hall-is-already-getting-it-wrong-says-Peter-Sissons.html
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/douglas-murray/2013/02/the-bbcs-great-public-service-cancelling-the-today-programme/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9869855/BBC-accused-of-leftist-bias-after-hiring-former-Labour-minister.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_BBC
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/09/02/bbc-chief-admits-massive-left-wing-bias-vows-remedy-imbalance
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/left-wing-bias-written-into-the-bbcs-dna-veteran-bbc-broadcaster/
http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2010/09/lecture-thompson-bbc-interview
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/7976318/BBC-was-biased-against-Thatcher-admits-Mark-Thompson.html
No Daily Fail link? Can't possibly be a balanced view! :)
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Btw, they do need a clear out IMO. Hence the catch 22 of this topic.
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I see, people are daring to post content that doesn't fit in with Emperor gixxers world view so he takes the huff and gets stroppy. Too many snowballs tonight?
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/9873914/New-BBC-boss-Lord-Hall-is-already-getting-it-wrong-says-Peter-Sissons.html
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/douglas-murray/2013/02/the-bbcs-great-public-service-cancelling-the-today-programme/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9869855/BBC-accused-of-leftist-bias-after-hiring-former-Labour-minister.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_BBC
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/09/02/bbc-chief-admits-massive-left-wing-bias-vows-remedy-imbalance
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/left-wing-bias-written-into-the-bbcs-dna-veteran-bbc-broadcaster/
http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2010/09/lecture-thompson-bbc-interview
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/7976318/BBC-was-biased-against-Thatcher-admits-Mark-Thompson.html
No Daily Fail link? Can't possibly be a balanced view! :)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y yup thats sounds about right ..or left..no right bugger you get my drift :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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there a lot less biased than some outer chanels i could mention so it evans it up dosent it
No. It's not a case of comparing of 'evening things up'. If those other channels are funded by private revenue they can broadcast whatever opinions or political bias they want, subject to regulation and audience interest of course. The BBC is funded by the public, and therefore should be completely impartial.
It is! Just doesn't happen to present the same opinion as yours. ;)
true chris :y
if everybody had the same opinion the world would be a very dull place i think the beeb do a great job whith the funds they get
i was wondering if byje beeb have to pay tax on the funds they get?
It's not the BBC's job to offer opinion. They should present information in a fair and impartial way, without favouring any viewpoint. Simples 8)
They have a legal obligation to be unbiased & neutral.They dont even really bother trying to pretend that they fulfill this legal obligation any more,as admitted by their own director general and several of their own high profiles employees.see the links above.
They have just given the job of strategy chief to an arch Blairite Labour minister- salary of £300,000 p.a. He is spectacularily unqualified to do the job.
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I see, people are daring to post content that doesn't fit in with Emperor gixxers world view so he takes the huff and gets stroppy. Too many snowballs tonight?
The irony of that post is quite incredible. ;D Good one. :y
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I choose not to have ignorant, jealous, left wing propaganda beamed into my residence. I'm much better for it as well! :y
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I see, people are daring to post content that doesn't fit in with Emperor gixxers world view so he takes the huff and gets stroppy. Too many snowballs tonight?
The irony of that post is quite incredible. ;D Good one. :y
Thanks, I learnt the big words from the BBC. They're really good you know!
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well there you are then a well balenced account of a non bias thread but i say the beeb are a great instituion of this country as for the new bloke hes only there till somthing else gose wrong or untill sombody acuses them of somthing out of their control i.e jimmy savilethen hell take the long walk of a short plank :y
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Open your mind,be objective,study the evidence. ;)
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I choose not to have ignorant, jealous, left wing propaganda beamed into my residence. I'm much better for it as well! :y
As said Geoff, they need a clear out. They've had a heheheheuuuuge balls up. They've made changes, and some have spat the dummy.
Dummy spitting is not part of the BBC ethos afaik, especially by those that caused the balls up in the first place. Then they get attention for sorting it out due to the side effect of a strike. Ops em. Sack the buggers IMO.
It's possibly due to this impartiality that the Militant element where not sacked on the spot the first time round with the Newsnight fiasco :y
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Open your mind,be objective,study the evidence. ;)
It's a period of readjustment for a very large corporation.
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I choose not to have ignorant, jealous, left wing propaganda beamed into my residence. I'm much better for it as well! :y
As said Geoff, they need a clear out. They've had a heheheheuuuuge balls up. They've made changes, and some have spat the dummy.
Dummy spitting is not part of the BBC ethos afaik, especially by those that caused the balls up in the first place. Then they get attention for sorting it out due to the side effect of a strike. Ops em. Sack the buggers IMO.
It's possibly due to this impartiality that the Militant element where not sacked on the spot the first time round with the Newsnight fiasco :y
true they should have gone imediatly no ezuses the beeb made a mistake there they should be made to fall on there swords they are the ones behind this strike fhey are the ones that should go that will save the beeb some cash :y :y :y
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The strike took place because they refuse to accept any compulsary redundancies.
Imo the licence fee should be on the same basis as SKY subscription.If you want to watch the BBC you pay it,if you dont want to watch it then you dont have to pay.We are constantly told its the greatest broadcaster in the world (and that was probably true many years ago),so in that case it stands to reason that it would also be successful if it was run on a commercial basis. :)
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they do get some comercial money from chanels such as dave but noway near as much as they would if they ran adverts on the main channels
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The strike took place because they refuse to accept any compulsary redundancies.
Imo the licence fee should be on the same basis as SKY subscription.If you want to watch the BBC you pay it,if you dont want to watch it then you dont have to pay.We are constantly told its the greatest broadcaster in the world (and that was probably true many years ago),so in that case it stands to reason that it would also be successful if it was run on a commercial basis. :)
But wouldn't that mean an increase in costs, and in increase in fee..?
Although... As a sky subscriber, I don't see why I should pay both. But then again, if I didn't pay the Beeb, I'd have to pay more to Sky for the same channels. Odds on there.
Seems a rather extreme cure to a short(ish) term problem tbh. :-\
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they do get some comercial money from chanels such as dave but noway near as much as they would if they ran adverts on the main channels
Let them have advertising the same as all the other channels then,seemples.It could be free the same as ITV C4 etc. :y
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:y :y :y yes very true but the goverment would find somway of chargin us for it they allways do
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they do get some comercial money from chanels such as dave but noway near as much as they would if they ran adverts on the main channels
Let them have advertising the same as all the other channels then,seemples.It could be free the same as ITV C4 etc. :y
Great idea. :y ::)
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Having a much needed clear out of the deadwood is a completely different and unrelated issue. The BBC is institutionally left wing, and that's wrong. It's got nothing to do with other content like nature programs for example (which are very good).
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there a lot less biased than some outer chanels i could mention so it evans it up dosent it
No. It's not a case of comparing of 'evening things up'. If those other channels are funded by private revenue they can broadcast whatever opinions or political bias they want, subject to regulation and audience interest of course. The BBC is funded by the public, and therefore should be completely impartial.
It is! Just doesn't happen to present the same opinion as yours. ;)
true chris :y
if everybody had the same opinion the world would be a very dull place i think the beeb do a great job whith the funds they get
i was wondering if byje beeb have to pay tax on the funds they get?
It's not the BBC's job to offer opinion. They should present information in a fair and impartial way, without favouring any viewpoint. Simples 8)
Strongly disagree as I do not want some puppet of government policy or simply a mirror on middle of the road, non-controversial, thought.
Long live the BBC, and long may it continue!
So you don't pay the TV licence then Geof, so I hope you do not watch television? Therefore you can hardly comment on BBC output. ::) ::) ::) ::)
;) ;)
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Surprise surprise I thought you might disagree. I'm beginning to think you're some sort of left wing puppet tbh, going by your posts in other threads. The world is full of people, organisations and so on who want to control others. The BBC should be impartial, otherwise it's unfair to those who have a different viewpoint but still pay tv tax.
Of course I watch television, how could I comment on it without knowing about it? That's a silly thing to say isn't it. I just don't pay the tv tax! :y
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Surprise surprise I thought you might disagree. I'm beginning to think you're some sort of left wing puppet tbh, going by your posts in other threads. The world is full of people, organisations and so on who want to control others. The BBC should be impartial, otherwise it's unfair to those who have a different viewpoint but still pay tv tax.
Of course I watch television, how could I comment on it without knowing about it? That's a silly thing to say isn't it. I just don't pay the tv tax! :y
So you are then a criminal and robbing all us who do pay for the service of watching TV! That is why I asked an apparently silly question to bring out the truth! :( :( :(
No, you and I will never agree, but for your information I am no left winger! :-X :-X :-X :-X
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How dare you accuse me of being a criminal? You've also used the word 'rob' in the wrong context. :)
I could see your childish attempt at trying to 'trick' me to 'bring the truth out'! You're so sure of yourself you couldn't even see I turned it back on you. You assumed, then accused me of something I haven't and don't do. That's the problem with people in society. Quick to judge and jump to the wrong conclusion.
I watch tv, of course I do. I even have to suffer the BBC occasionally. I don't pay tv tax though. And no I'm not a criminal. I don't watch or record television as it's being broadcast in any place I would be liable for tv tax, if I was doing so.
I'll accept your apology. :P
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How dare you accuse me of being a criminal? You've also used the word 'rob' in the wrong context. :)
I could see your childish attempt at trying to 'trick' me to 'bring the truth out'! You're so sure of yourself you couldn't even see I turned it back on you. You assumed, then accused me of something I haven't and don't do. That's the problem with people in society. Quick to judge and jump to the wrong conclusion.
I watch tv, of course I do. I even have to suffer the BBC occasionally. I don't pay tv tax though. And no I'm not a criminal. I don't watch or record television as it's being broadcast in any place I would be liable for tv tax, if I was doing so.
I'll accept your apology. :P
"You need a valid TV Licence if you use TV receiving equipment to watch or record television programmes as they’re being shown on TV. ‘TV receiving equipment’ means any equipment which is used to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV. This includes a TV, computer, mobile phone, games console, digital box, DVD/VHS recorder or any other device."
and...............
"It’s against the law to watch or record TV programmes as they're being shown on TV without a valid licence. This includes the use of devices such as a TV, computer, mobile phone, games console, digital box or DVD/VHS recorder.
Watching TV without a valid licence is a criminal offence. This can lead to prosecution, a court appearance and a fine of up to £1,000 (not including legal costs)."
You contradict yourself, but I am not going to argue, other than to state fact: if you watch, record or use TV in any way you are LEGALLY responsible for paying the TV licence fee. To not do so is a CRIMINAL OFFENCE as spelt out in the quotes from the TV Licencing web site.
So NO apology!
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Do we need a tv licence to watch iplayer ? :-\
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Do we need a tv licence to watch iplayer ? :-\
Yes :y :y
According to the "regulations" as far as we can interpret. ;) ;) That is because you are using a diggy box to watch the I-Player that is classed as a recorded programme and comes under the TV Licence mandate.
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well said lizzie if you own atv or any devixe to watch any program or film or sport ect you need a tv licence so you are breaking the law so technicaly you are a criminal so take some advice get a licence or take the concequences geof or get rid of all your veiwing devices
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I have my doubts tbh.Your not watching a broadcast and arent recording one to watch it later.Im not certain though.
Anyway,if the Beeb is so good,why not allow it to become a commercial company and blow SKY out of the water with its much superior content ? It could show adverts and be free to view,or view by subscription. :)
I know you have a fondness for Aunty Beeb Lizzie,but read some of the links I posted.Even the DG admitted left wing bias.It was hijacked by lefties slowly but surely from the late 60,s and lost objectivity a long time ago. ;)
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i think it would be good to let the beeb show adverts albitz like you say and get rid of the licence but as ive said before the goverment will find away to charge us for it
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I have my doubts tbh.Your not watching a broadcast and arent recording one to watch it later.Im not certain though.
Anyway,if the Beeb is so good,why not allow it to become a commercial company and blow SKY out of the water with its much superior content ? It could show adverts and be free to view,or view by subscription. :)
I know you have a fondness for Aunty Beeb Lizzie,but read some of the links I posted.Even the DG admitted left wing bias.It was hijacked by lefties slowly but surely from the late 60,s and lost objectivity a long time ago. ;)
Yes I am guilty!! ::) ::) ::) ::) I do have a fondness of the BBC. However, I am not silly, contrary to what some people think, and I have noted all your and general national comments about the BBC bias. However, I do feel more is good than bad so on balance they deserve their World reputation, especially on their programmes like documentaries and drama, let alone the news output. :y :y :y
As for the licence there is a grey area when it comes to I-Player, but to get that you do use either a PC or a digital box which are included in the remit of the licence, and in anycase you are technically watching a broadcast that is live in one sense, or at least recorded in another! ::) ::) ::)
One for the lawyers I think, but certainly there are very few of us who do not watch live TV in some form or another, and need a licence. :y :y
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i think it would be good to let the beeb show adverts albitz like you say and get rid of the licence but as ive said before the goverment will find away to charge us for it
Or product placement perhaps?
Either way it is a slippery slope to commercial television ;)
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it is ileagle to watch iplayer on any device without a tv licence becausr the device is capable of reciving a tv signal
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I am well aware of the Communication Act 2003, and the deliberately misleading and downright disgraceful stance of TV licensing, and I don't need you or anyone else to tell me thanks. :y
You've obviously either missed it, of deliberately ignored the crucial part in my post. I am not required in law to have a tv license. I'm still waiting for your apology.
A tv license is only required to watch or record tv on any device capable of doing so, as it's being broadcast, which I don't do in any place in which I would be liable for paying tv tax, if I were to watch tv.
Still waiting Lizzie 8)
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it is ileagle to watch iplayer on any device without a tv licence becausr the device is capable of reciving a tv signal
Wrong. If its being streamed not at the same time it's being broadcast it's not a tv signal and a tv license is not required.
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That is my understanding.Makes sense to me. :y
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tv license is free for the over 75 :y
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Do we need a tv licence to watch iplayer ? :-\
Yes :y :y
According to the "regulations" as far as we can interpret. ;) ;) That is because you are using a diggy box to watch the I-Player that is classed as a recorded programme and comes under the TV Licence mandate.
Completely wrong!!!! you only need a TV licence if you watch TV as it is broadcast - Latency delay notwithstanding, if the programme being watched has already been broadcast, you do not need a licence to "catch up" with it.
Better to read the rules, rather than scan them for words that prove your point.
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you had better read again if you have a device that is caperble of recieving a tv signal weather you only use to record or not if it can recieve a tv signal you by law you need a tv licence be it a tv /pc phone or any thing else iplayer is capable of broadcasting live tv so you need a licrnce you do not need a tv licence if you are blind or one person living in your house is 75 or over
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http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/playing_tv_progs/tvlicence
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you had better read again if you have a device that is caperble of recieving a tv signal weather you only use to record or not if it can recieve a tv signal you by law you need a tv licence be it a tv /pc phone or any thing else iplayer is capable of broadcasting live tv so you need a licrnce you do not need a tv licence if you are blind or one person living in your house is 75 or over
I don't need to read it again! but you clearly do.
From TV Licencing Website:
A reminder of the law
The law states that you need to be covered by a TV Licence if you watch or record television programmes, on any device, as they're being shown on TV. This includes TVs, computers, mobile phones, games consoles, digital boxes and Blu-ray/DVD/VHS recorders.
You don't need a licence if you don't use any of these devices to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV - for example, if you use your TV only to watch DVDs or play video games, or you only watch ‘catch up’ services like BBC iPlayer or 4oD.
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as i was saying to record or watch program live on iplayer im not disagreeing about catchup tv but as it says any device caperble o watching live tv needs a licence im not saying its a good thing i dont see why you have to pay twice if you have sky or virgin thats not fair
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as i was saying to record or watch program live on iplayer im not disagreeing about catchup tv but as it says any device caperble o watching live tv needs a licence im not saying its a good thing i dont see why you have to pay twice if you have sky or virgin thats not fair
what do you mean ozzycat :y
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im not diputing that and have never done so but you explain that when my daughter was away at collage she took her tv with her there was no way they could watch tv because there was no tv signal or an areil so she could only watch dvds but she got a sumons for no tv ljcence because her tv was caperble of recieving one evan though there
was no tv signal so i had to pay fo a tv licebce foe 3 years for no tv just because it could recieve one
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as i was saying to record or watch program live on iplayer im not disagreeing about catchup tv but as it says any device caperble o watching live tv needs a licence im not saying its a good thing i dont see why you have to pay twice if you have sky or virgin thats not fair
what do you mean ozzycat :y
if you have sky or virgin you have still got to pay for a tv licence aswell as paying for your tv service technicly you pay twice its not fair i dont use either so im not moaning about my self you see what i mean
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Iplayer is watched on a laptop or similar,and they arent capable of recieving a TV signal. ;)
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anyway how did a dicusion about bbc going on strick turn into a row about tv licence i dont want to fall out with anybody over somthing as stupid as this
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as i was saying to record or watch program live on iplayer im not disagreeing about catchup tv but as it says any device caperble o watching live tv needs a licence im not saying its a good thing i dont see why you have to pay twice if you have sky or virgin thats not fair
what do you mean ozzycat :y
if you have sky or virgin you have still got to pay for a tv licence aswell as paying for your tv service technicly you pay twice its not fair i dont use either so im not moaning about my self you see what i mean
looking at it the other way round..we all buy a tv license..thats it.watch freeview..if you want the extras like sky.virgin you have to pay for it :y
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they can they can watch live tv though iplayer
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Nope.Programmes are only available on iplayer after they have been broadcast on TV. ;)
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as i was saying to record or watch program live on iplayer im not disagreeing about catchup tv but as it says any device caperble o watching live tv needs a licence im not saying its a good thing i dont see why you have to pay twice if you have sky or virgin thats not fair
what do you mean ozzycat :y
if you have sky or virgin you have still got to pay for a tv licence aswell as paying for your tv service technicly you pay twice its not fair i dont use either so im not moaning about my self you see what i mean
looking at it the other way round..we all buy a tv license..thats it.watch freeview..if you want the extras like sky.virgin you have to pay for it :y
true but i think they should nock the price of the tv licence of your subscription :y :y
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Nope.Programmes are only available on iplayer after they have been broadcast on TV. ;)
oh acording to iplayer you can ive just asked them ??? weired
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I couldnt watch top gear on TV on Sunday.It was available on Iplayer approx. 15-30 minutes after it had finished on BBC2. :-\
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I couldnt watch top gear on TV on Sunday.It was available on Iplayer approx. 15-30 minutes after it had finished on BBC2. :-\
obviosly the prat i spoke to didnt know his arse from his elbow sorry albitz
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Do we need a tv licence to watch iplayer ? :-\
Yes :y :y
According to the "regulations" as far as we can interpret. ;) ;) That is because you are using a diggy box to watch the I-Player that is classed as a recorded programme and comes under the TV Licence mandate.
Completely wrong!!!! you only need a TV licence if you watch TV as it is broadcast - Latency delay notwithstanding, if the programme being watched has already been broadcast, you do not need a licence to "catch up" with it.
Better to read the rules, rather than scan them for words that prove your point.
Well said Albs. Too many people just quote what's been drummed into them over the years without knowing the full facts or bothering to find out themselves. In the end they themselves end up as agents perpetuating mis information for the benefit of the originator (in this case the BBC and TV licensing), without even realising! Of course this would benefit the BBC as they get more tax revenue
I notice Lizzie has gone quiet, perhaps she's realised her mistake and is plucking up the courage to apologise for assuming the worst, attempting to deceive me (poorly), and publicly calling me a criminal when I've done nothing wrong.
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Much as it pains me, I agree with Geoff here. Having read through a lot of tedious websites, it appears that if you only watch catch-up, through a device that is not capable of receiving live broadcasts, you do not need a tv licence.
You'd definately need unlimited broadband (if you watch a lot) and fair usage policy might come into it. But, technically,no licence.
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Then again, if your are connected to the internet, you are capable of watching BBC news live.
AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH. I don't fickin know......... :D
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I couldnt watch top gear on TV on Sunday.It was available on Iplayer approx. 15-30 minutes after it had finished on BBC2. :-\
obviosly the prat i spoke to didnt know his arse from his elbow sorry albitz
No need to apologise Ozzy.I might be wrong.Im only speaking from my own experience,not from knowledge of rules,regs etc. ;)
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TV licence is a total rip off and should be banned >:( Should be an option to opt out of watching BBC then they can shove the licence fee up their a$$ .
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Then again, if your are connected to the internet, you are capable of watching BBC news live.
AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH. I don't fickin know......... :D
Yes, but the issue isn't whether or not you have equipment capable of receiving and/or recording a television signal, the issue is whether or not you do
I have a tv that is capable of receiving a tv signal. But I don't use it for that purpose and it isnt even connected to an aeriel or digibox etc, therefore I don't need a license.
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...and (iplayer) is not available outside the uk, as everyone in the uk pays the fee.
And damn right too. :) same with the nhs, we all pay, everyone benefits.
...ok, bad example. But the idea is sound.
IMO it's a general state of economics the entire country is in. It's painfull for everyone currently. :(
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Do we need a tv licence to watch iplayer ? :-\
Yes :y :y
According to the "regulations" as far as we can interpret. ;) ;) That is because you are using a diggy box to watch the I-Player that is classed as a recorded programme and comes under the TV Licence mandate.
Completely wrong!!!! you only need a TV licence if you watch TV as it is broadcast - Latency delay notwithstanding, if the programme being watched has already been broadcast, you do not need a licence to "catch up" with it.
Better to read the rules, rather than scan them for words that prove your point.
Well said Albs. Too many people just quote what's been drummed into them over the years without knowing the full facts or bothering to find out themselves. In the end they themselves end up as agents perpetuating mis information for the benefit of the originator (in this case the BBC and TV licensing), without even realising! Of course this would benefit the BBC as they get more tax revenue
I notice Lizzie has gone quiet, perhaps she's realised her mistake and is plucking up the courage to apologise for assuming the worst, attempting to deceive me (poorly), and publicly calling me a criminal when I've done nothing wrong.
No! Actually I have been off line as BT have just been upgrading my line to BT Affinity.
I stated what I did based on what you were stating. The facts remain that at some stage you are watching or recording TV output and unless you are over 75 years of age, which you have not stated, you are committing a criminal offence if you do not possess a current TV licence. I quoted the regulations from the TV Licencing site, so unless you are holding back additional information my conclusion still stands.
Tell me how I have misunderstood YOUR statements of fact please.
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............and before you answer Geof this is exactly what you posted:
Surprise surprise I thought you might disagree. I'm beginning to think you're some sort of left wing puppet tbh, going by your posts in other threads. The world is full of people, organisations and so on who want to control others. The BBC should be impartial, otherwise it's unfair to those who have a different viewpoint but still pay tv tax.
Of course I watch television, how could I comment on it without knowing about it? That's a silly thing to say isn't it. I just don't pay the tv tax! :y
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Do we need a tv licence to watch iplayer ? :-\
Yes :y :y
According to the "regulations" as far as we can interpret. ;) ;) That is because you are using a diggy box to watch the I-Player that is classed as a recorded programme and comes under the TV Licence mandate.
Completely wrong!!!! you only need a TV licence if you watch TV as it is broadcast - Latency delay notwithstanding, if the programme being watched has already been broadcast, you do not need a licence to "catch up" with it.
Better to read the rules, rather than scan them for words that prove your point.
Well said Albs. Too many people just quote what's been drummed into them over the years without knowing the full facts or bothering to find out themselves. In the end they themselves end up as agents perpetuating mis information for the benefit of the originator (in this case the BBC and TV licensing), without even realising! Of course this would benefit the BBC as they get more tax revenue
I notice Lizzie has gone quiet, perhaps she's realised her mistake and is plucking up the courage to apologise for assuming the worst, attempting to deceive me (poorly), and publicly calling me a criminal when I've done nothing wrong.
No! Actually I have been off line as BT have just been upgrading my line to BT Affinity.
I stated what I did based on what you were stating. The facts remain that at some stage you are watching or recording TV output and unless you are over 75 years of age, which you have not stated, you are committing a criminal offence if you do not possess a current TV licence. I quoted the regulations from the TV Licencing site, so unless you are holding back additional information my conclusion still stands.
Tell me how I have misunderstood YOUR statements of fact please.
You came to a conclusion (the wrong one) without having the full facts, and assumed the rest (wrongly). Then you publicly called me a criminal. Be very careful.
It's perfectly possible to watch tv without a tv license (which I don't have) and be within the law. I'm waiting for my apology.
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Then you added after I challenged you with...............
quote author=geoffr70 link=topic=112244.msg1414030#msg1414030 date=1361279293]
I watch tv, of course I do. I even have to suffer the BBC occasionally. I don't pay tv tax though. And no I'm not a criminal. I don't watch or record television as it's being broadcast in any place I would be liable for tv tax, if I was doing so.
I'll accept your apology. :P
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So, am I to think you were trying to be clever, stating one set of facts, whilst with holding others to score points? ??? ??? ??? ???
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............and before you answer Geof this is exactly what you posted:
Surprise surprise I thought you might disagree. I'm beginning to think you're some sort of left wing puppet tbh, going by your posts in other threads. The world is full of people, organisations and so on who want to control others. The BBC should be impartial, otherwise it's unfair to those who have a different viewpoint but still pay tv tax.
Of course I watch television, how could I comment on it without knowing about it? That's a silly thing to say isn't it. I just don't pay the tv tax! :y
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And? I watch tv now and again. I don't pay tv tax. I'm still well within the law though and not doing anything wrong, whatever your legal or political outlook.
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No you silly woman, you assumed. YOU ASSUMED WRONGLY, then publicly called me a criminal. Your actions, your fault. I'm waiting for my apology.
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Do we need a tv licence to watch iplayer ? :-\
Yes :y :y
According to the "regulations" as far as we can interpret. ;) ;) That is because you are using a diggy box to watch the I-Player that is classed as a recorded programme and comes under the TV Licence mandate.
Completely wrong!!!! you only need a TV licence if you watch TV as it is broadcast - Latency delay notwithstanding, if the programme being watched has already been broadcast, you do not need a licence to "catch up" with it.
Better to read the rules, rather than scan them for words that prove your point.
Well said Albs. Too many people just quote what's been drummed into them over the years without knowing the full facts or bothering to find out themselves. In the end they themselves end up as agents perpetuating mis information for the benefit of the originator (in this case the BBC and TV licensing), without even realising! Of course this would benefit the BBC as they get more tax revenue
I notice Lizzie has gone quiet, perhaps she's realised her mistake and is plucking up the courage to apologise for assuming the worst, attempting to deceive me (poorly), and publicly calling me a criminal when I've done nothing wrong.
No! Actually I have been off line as BT have just been upgrading my line to BT Affinity.
I stated what I did based on what you were stating. The facts remain that at some stage you are watching or recording TV output and unless you are over 75 years of age, which you have not stated, you are committing a criminal offence if you do not possess a current TV licence. I quoted the regulations from the TV Licencing site, so unless you are holding back additional information my conclusion still stands.
Tell me how I have misunderstood YOUR statements of fact please.
You came to a conclusion (the wrong one) without having the full facts, and assumed the rest (wrongly). Then you publicly called me a criminal. Be very careful.
It's perfectly possible to watch tv without a tv license (which I don't have) and be within the law. I'm waiting for my apology.
No!!! You should be apologising for deliberately setting out to be clever and stating limited facts. If you do not watch live TV how do you see it? ??? ???
PS I will ignore your childish out pouring!
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I haven't stated limited facts, you wrongly filled in your own picture to justify your own wrong belief.
I do watch tv legally, but I don't pay tv tax. 8)
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I haven't stated limited facts, you wrongly filled in your own picture to justify your own wrong belief.
I do watch tv legally, but I don't pay tv tax. 8)
OK play your own games! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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I haven't stated limited facts, you wrongly filled in your own picture to justify your own wrong belief.
I do watch tv legally, but I don't pay tv tax. 8)
OK play your own games! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
I'm surprised you've got this far in life with that pompous attitude. You assumed wrongly, now somehow it's my fault!! You couldn't make that up. Oh then you call me a criminal. You're the wrongdoer.
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I haven't stated limited facts, you wrongly filled in your own picture to justify your own wrong belief.
I do watch tv legally, but I don't pay tv tax. 8)
OK play your own games! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
I'm surprised you've got this far in life with that pompous attitude. You assumed wrongly, now somehow it's my fault!! You couldn't make that up. Oh then you call me a criminal. You're the wrongdoer.
You cannot even answer my questions. So.........
Whatever. :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
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Then again, if your are connected to the internet, you are capable of watching BBC news live.
AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH. I don't fickin know......... :D
yes but your ok youve got a licrence :y :y :y
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Well this is it ticking along nicely isn't it. ;D
Geoffrey, your not doing yourself any favours mate, tbh. :)
If its implied you watching tv without paying the license, you can't really be surprised if your pulled up on it now, can you. ;D
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Ok Geoffrey although you are not prepared to give me any answers to my questions, for the good of the Forum I will say "Sorry" for stating you were a criminal. Your postings suggested what I have explained they did, but obviously you are playing some kind of game.
Too mature to go along with such games and insults from you which have been going on for some time now, even spilling into another thread with highly offensive remarks, which I also expect a "Sorry" for.
However, if you are prepared to say sorry so will I apologize to you. Fair enough??
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To clarify you don't need TV license to watch VOD content on iPlayer, you only need to have it if you watch a program live at broadcast time.
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To clarify you don't need TV license to watch VOD content on iPlayer, you only need to have it if you watch a program live at broadcast time.
yep thats what ive been saying :y :y :y
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............and before you answer Geof this is exactly what you posted:
Surprise surprise I thought you might disagree. I'm beginning to think you're some sort of left wing puppet tbh, going by your posts in other threads. The world is full of people, organisations and so on who want to control others. The BBC should be impartial, otherwise it's unfair to those who have a different viewpoint but still pay tv tax.
Of course I watch television, how could I comment on it without knowing about it? That's a silly thing to say isn't it. I just don't pay the tv tax! :y
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And? I watch tv now and again. I don't pay tv tax. I'm still well within the law though and not doing anything wrong, whatever your legal or political outlook.
yes you are if you watch tv evan if it only now and again its illeagle your breaking the law it dosent matter wich way you put it there are no exeptions to this rule ask everybody who watches ty leagaly
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Chill pill time, Ozzy. :y
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Chill pill time, Ozzy. :y
okey dokey STMO sorry get abit well you know what i mean
my apologys to every body :y :y :y
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Probably find "geoffr70" actually lives and works in a "communal" area .. so his TV licence is paid under contractual rules ...or some such technical reason .... but why he's choosing to play games and not actually state his reasons is a tad childish IMHO - especially given his comments in another thread.
OOF does not need (or want ?) this pettiness IMHO.... we're "supposed" to be adults, this does absolutely nothing to generate good will and just ends up in petty point scoring.
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fair enough entwood i get a bit wound up somtimes especialy when i get bad results from the hospital so i was upset to start with i know its no excuse for loosing your rag so i apologise for it ill take stmos advice and take a chill pill and ive got some beuties :D :D :D :D
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Who's playing games
Watching or recording tv signals in a place where would be liable to ensure the said premises are covered by a license isn't the default way to watch tv. Many people assumed it is, wrongly, and are then quick to publicly judge and brand people as criminals
I didn't intend to, and haven't misled anyone. I'm certainly not playing games thanks Entwood :P. As said there is no default way to watch tv, but I could see where the thread was going, certain OOF regulars, and others who aren't in the clique so much, whose posts look like they can't string a sentence together, perpetuating mis information and falsehoods, without stopping to ascertain the full circumstances or what the actual rules regarding the situation are!
Well at approximately half the age of a lot of you, I'm glad to say I have an open mind, to my benefit. I'm not pompous or pedantic like I observe many to be on here. It's not just me who's noticed either, I've received communication from numerous other members about this.
Entwood states that OOF does not need or want pettiness, what pettiness? I could say that OOF does not need your pompousness and pedantic posts to people, of which there are many. But everyone's different.
Lizzie brands me a criminal after assuming wrongly. All I can say is don't join the police or legal system. When I was a policeman, I worked with a whole range of police forces in this country and right around the world, I had the decency to get the facts before taking action that could potentially blacken someone's name.
Did anyone see Emmerdale tonight? It was a right corker!!!! 8)
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I'm sorry Lizzie if you thought I was insulting you, I have a crack right across my iPhone screen right where the pictures are so I can't see them very well. I'd fix it but I'm saving for a tv license!!
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Well this is it ticking along nicely isn't it. ;D
Geoffrey, your not doing yourself any favours mate, tbh. :)
If its implied you watching tv without paying the license, you can't really be surprised if your pulled up on it now, can you. ;D
'Geoffrey'
Who are you? My dad?
As said, I watch tv, I don't pay tv tax. I'm within the law. I'm doing nothing wrong. As said, too many assume, get it wrong, and are then quick to judge.
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first i say sorry to stmo and entwood
geof why dont you grow up and stop trying to get one up on everybody if you say your half my age that must mean your still at school and naughty boys should be in bed if you watched emerdale tonight then that counts as a confesion to watch ing tv with out a licence which if you cant get intio your head is a criminal offence or do you still live with mummy & daddy so grow up and realise when people are thaking the piss t
this is my last worg on this subject so rant on if you want i aint gotherd nite nite
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Well this is it ticking along nicely isn't it. ;D
Geoffrey, your not doing yourself any favours mate, tbh. :)
If its implied you watching tv without paying the license, you can't really be surprised if your pulled up on it now, can you. ;D
'Geoffrey'
Who are you? My dad?
As said, I watch tv, I don't pay tv tax. I'm within the law. I'm doing nothing wrong. As said, too many assume, get it wrong, and are then quick to judge.
No Zippie. :P ;D
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first i say sorry to stmo and entwood
geof why dont you grow up and stop trying to get one up on everybody if you say your half my age that must mean your still at school and naughty boys should be in bed if you watched emerdale tonight then that counts as a confesion to watch ing tv with out a licence which if you cant get intio your head is a criminal offence or do you still live with mummy & daddy so grow up and realise when people are thaking the piss t
this is my last worg on this subject so rant on if you want i aint gotherd nite nite
There's so many things wrong with that I don't know where to start! You'd need a brain to digest a response though. It's scary how small some minds are! 'Grow up' you say!! I can just about understand your post, it looks like the scrawlings of a drunkard!
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Got to go my favourite show's on! Bye :y
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go and do your homwork like the good litt;e schoolboy you are
im getting bored now nite nite
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Tedious.
In the extreme.
To wade through pages of posturing and posing.
Who really cares?
Who wants to tell teacher?
Or aunty beeb?
Either way, give it a rest.
It's not a pit bull fight with squill ions of cash on a winner.
Why not withdraw and lick your respective wounds?
I watch telly down the pub (where the licencee pays the licence fee, not me) and on the 'phone on catch up and stuff. I also watch it at home where I have a licence. And at the pickey palace with a licence. As did the kids when at uni.
There are lots of black and white rules regarding tv licensing and, like any system of rules, there are ways round them. Likewise, there are words and phrases from which readers derive limited facts and thereafter rely on their own experiences to fill in the gaps. And that's where misunderstanding enters.
That said, it is no excuse for any party to place themselves in an ivory tower and require apologies where their stance is only being revealed bit by bit.
That makes you look like an eejit. In my opinion.
:)
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Well said Broocie... As for the rest of it... terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired!
I try not to get drawn in any more... There are some members who just want to stir :-X
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Well said Broocie... As for the rest of it... terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired!
I try not to get drawn in any more... There are some members who just want to stir :-X
yea you
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Well said Broocie... As for the rest of it... terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired!
I try not to get drawn in any more... There are some members who just want to stir :-X
yea you
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=112189.0;all
punish him i say
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Well said Broocie... As for the rest of it... terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired!
I try not to get drawn in any more... There are some members who just want to stir :-X
yea you
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=112189.0;all
punish him i say
No.
You stirrer...... ;D
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Well said Broocie... As for the rest of it... terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired!
I try not to get drawn in any more... There are some members who just want to stir :-X
yea you
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=112189.0;all
punish him i say
No.
You stirrer...... ;D
yes im guilty ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I'm sorry Lizzie if you thought I was insulting you, I have a crack right across my iPhone screen right where the pictures are so I can't see them very well. I'd fix it but I'm saving for a tv license!!
Ok, accepted Geoff70, and as I said I am sorry to. Let's leave it there and just draw a line under this. We are both at fault.
This bickering between us is no good to the Forum as I and Entwood rightly states. :y :y :y :y