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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Steve Brookman on 21 February 2013, 18:43:19
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Evening all,
Bought a 55 plate 1.6 100BHP Focus estate yesterday to replace the wifes Fiesta. 39000 miles. Drove like a dream on the test drive and on the 30 mile trip home yesterday. Wife told me when I got home toady that it felt like it was missing whilst driving. I took it out and indeed it is and the engine management light is on. Luckily enough I bought it via my brother in law who is a salesman for ford and he will have them plug it in on saturday.
I'm suspecting a coil pack-but any other guidance would be graetly appreciated.
To say I'm peeved is an understatement.
Regards
Steve
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Fix Or Repair Daily!!
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If it's a dealer valeted car,it could be water ingress to plugwells,not uncommon
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On our Zetec 1.6, banging the rev limiter would cause it to run rough until you switched it off and on. As you can imagine, the first time this happened, I thought I'd shagged it (with less than 1000 miles on it). 2 seperate dealers just said not to rev it that hard. Idiots.
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In my experience the 1.6 100bhp was actually quite a good combo. We had a 1998 'S' Ghia from 45k to 75k and a 2005 '05' from 59k to 95k without any problems. Recently I purchased for a client a 2008 '58' Focus Convertible with the 1.6, and that again was perfect.
Hopefully, it'll be something nice and simple :y
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In my experience the 1.6 100bhp was actually quite a good combo.
Probably you are right. A gutless, horrible engine paired with an unpredictable chassis. A good match.
;D
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In my experience the 1.6 100bhp was actually quite a good combo.
Probably you are right. A gutless, horrible engine paired with an unpredictable chassis. A good match.
;D
;D
the wife's 54 plate 1.8 is nice. soooo easy to work on too
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In my experience the 1.6 100bhp was actually quite a good combo.
Probably you are right. A gutless, horrible engine paired with an unpredictable chassis. A good match.
;D
;D
the wife's 54 plate 1.8 is nice. soooo easy to work on too
No, its not (nice). How Ford managed to get so little power out of that cc, and deliver that power so badly, is a work of art. On the upside, it won't go fast enough to show up how badly the chassis handles.
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well i like it ;D ;D ;D
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Did my brothers 1.6 last year, cylinder 4 mis fire due to a shagged coil pack. Pattern one was £38 and has been fine up to now :y
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Thanks will have a look at the plug wells tomorrow.
Went very well yesterday on the way home though not quite as fast as my brothers chipped Focus ST running around 280bhp.
Steve
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In my experience the 1.6 100bhp was actually quite a good combo.
Probably you are right. A gutless, horrible engine paired with an unpredictable chassis. A good match.
;D
;D but if you accept, it's a small / mid size family car I think it's ok. It doesn't set the world on fire, and it can be twitchy at the front if you're pressing on...but on the whole, it's ok.
Better than VAG I think. Golf, Touran TDI's drive me crazy. With medium acceleration the front squirms all over the place.
I've often wondered what a Focus ST drives like? It looks questionable (with the chav stuff), but I wonder what the excellent Volvo engine does for it.
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In my experience the 1.6 100bhp was actually quite a good combo.
Probably you are right. A gutless, horrible engine paired with an unpredictable chassis. A good match.
;D
;D but if you accept, it's a small / mid size family car I think it's ok. It doesn't set the world on fire, and it can be twitchy at the front if you're pressing on...but on the whole, it's ok.
Better than VAG I think. Golf, Touran TDI's drive me crazy. With medium acceleration the front squirms all over the place.
I've often wondered what a Focus ST drives like? It looks questionable (with the chav stuff), but I wonder what the excellent Volvo engine does for it.
But things like the Astra-H are a million times better, except the interior trim falling off. Quicker, handles better.
Only driven an early ST, not sure if it was standard or tweaked. Horrid car. Torque steer, catastrophic understeer, and inadequate (and unpredictable) brakes. As long as you weren't given it full beans, it was more predictable in the corners than the lesser models.
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Thanks Josh I found it quite fast enough.
My brothers ST 225 is a cracking car to drive-even before he had it chipped. What makes a 225 special is the massive torque and the sound of the 5 pot engine. Only downside is the 20mpg.
Regards
Steve
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is the massive torque
Can't argue with that. It delivers it nicely as well.
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Thanks Josh I found it quite fast enough.
My brothers ST 225 is a cracking car to drive-even before he had it chipped. What makes a 225 special is the massive torque and the sound of the 5 pot engine. Only downside is the 20mpg.
Regards
Steve
those volvo engines are good :y
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Checked this evening-plug compartment has water in it presumably from valetting as the engine bay looks like its had the steam cleaner on it. Plug leads were wet. Got as much water out using my airline and a rag. Left leads off tonight to let water dry out and will give it a go tomorrow.
Cheers
Steve
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Checked this evening-plug compartment has water in it presumably from valetting as the engine bay looks like its had the steam cleaner on it. Plug leads were wet. Got as much water out using my airline and a rag. Left leads off tonight to let water dry out and will give it a go tomorrow.
Cheers
Steve
If it's still a bit damp in the morning run the engine up to temp then switch off and pull the leads again,hopefully the heat in the head will dry it out completely :y
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No, its not (nice). How Ford managed to get so little power out of that cc, and deliver that power so badly, is a work of art. On the upside, it won't go fast enough to show up how badly the chassis handles.
Depends what cams are in it. The 1.8s ranged from quite good to "useful only as an offensive weapon". Fit the cams from the 2.0 and they are OK. Good for 130 BHP on standard induction and around 150 on something more interesting. ;)
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No, its not (nice). How Ford managed to get so little power out of that cc, and deliver that power so badly, is a work of art. On the upside, it won't go fast enough to show up how badly the chassis handles.
Depends what cams are in it. The 1.8s ranged from quite good to "useful only as an offensive weapon". Fit the cams from the 2.0 and they are OK. Good for 130 BHP on standard induction and around 150 on something more interesting. ;)
I was referring, of course, to the standard Focus engines fitted to lower end models, like the 1.6 I had, and the 1.8 that Mrs TB's brother had, on a works lease scheme when they were Ford employees.
Both were absolutely demolished in a straight line by a K series powered 1.6 Rover 25 (we tried ::)), which is a larger car. Even more demolished when shown a corner.
I have heard the Zetec is quite tunable (as is the K Series, come to that), but to me, in the Focus, just felt it lacked torque, esp low down. I guess in a 500kg kit car, thats not so much of a problem, and trying to raise the rev limit is more productive? Aren't you getting around 200bhp from your 2l?
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The Zetec E 1.6 was a total dog. A bodge to replace the CVH, they crippled it to try and make it similarly gutless and cheap to insure. Worst of both worlds - power all up at high revs and not much of it. But they clearly couldn't be @rsed to design a different engine for the base models.
The 1.8 came with various different configs from a crippled 105 and 115 to 130 BHP. Guessing the Focus got the 105 or 115?
It's been so long since I've driven one in standard form that I can't remember (thankfully). Never driven a Focus at all, AFAIK.
Of course any K series car would probably 30kg lighter in the engine department for a start.
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Just an update.
Took it to Ford dealer where brother-in-law works and they said the water in the plug wells was antifreeze which was coming from one of two small core plugs. The mechanic said it was a fairly common problem. They'll fix it and replace the coil pack at the same time.
Cheers again
Steve
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I couldn't believe how much fuel the 1.6 Focus I had as a loan car drank. Honestly the 3.2 uses less.
Maybe there was something up with it.
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I couldn't believe how much fuel the 1.6 Focus I had as a loan car drank. Honestly the 3.2 uses less.
Maybe there was something up with it.
We used to get about 30mpg from ours.
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oh dear i get 40-45 mpg in the escort 1.8 cabby ;D ;D
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oh dear i get 40-45 mpg in the escort 1.8 cabby ;D ;D
Miss Daisy, clearly ;D
That said, Ford did make the Focus out of the heavier material call steel, rather than FeO that they made the Escort from :P