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Title: Are these tools available in metric ?
Post by: mantahatch on 22 March 2013, 20:33:43
I have a few of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/king-dick-knock-off-sockets-3-4-and-15-16-AF-set-of-two-/171008410670?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item27d0e5442e and use them quite a lot. Mine are imperial but I am increasingly needing metric ones.

Does anyone know f they are available anywhere ?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Are these tools available in metric ?
Post by: omega3000 on 22 March 2013, 23:33:59
What are they used for  :-\ Never seen such contraptions  ;D
Title: Re: Are these tools available in metric ?
Post by: Entwood on 22 March 2013, 23:39:12
I've never seen them in metric, and only ever seen them at vintage car shows or vintage tool sales ... must be a few years old now. always hated the damned things anyway :(

EMD .. basically you place the socket over a stuck/tight/seized nut and smack the protrusion with a hammer ... to "knock off" the nut ... once loosened use a normal spanner ..   its a VERY old version of a percussion tool ...    :)

As they wear they get less and less reliable, and once they start to slip they wreck the nut head very fast .. :(
Title: Re: Are these tools available in metric ?
Post by: mantahatch on 22 March 2013, 23:40:27
I use them for some difficult to get to nuts on some equipment we have. Old units are imperial but newer ones are metric. I use a long drift and hammer to loosen and tighten the nuts. They are surprisingly useful. It can be done using conventional spanners or sockets but requires the removal of many many other parts first.

Oh yes, you tap with the hammer  :y
Title: Re: Are these tools available in metric ?
Post by: omega3000 on 22 March 2013, 23:43:41
Thanks for that , learn something every day  ;) Ive probably seen them but overlooked them especially at boot sales . I can see them being handy  :y
Title: Re: Are these tools available in metric ?
Post by: Vamps on 22 March 2013, 23:44:53
I use them for some difficult to get to nuts on some equipment we have. Old units are imperial but newer ones are metric. I use a long drift and hammer to loosen and tighten the nuts. They are surprisingly useful. It can be done using conventional spanners or sockets but requires the removal of many many other parts first.

Oh yes, you tap with the hammer  :y

I can imagine that, loosen or tighten..... :y :y
Title: Re: Are these tools available in metric ?
Post by: Entwood on 22 March 2013, 23:44:57
I use them for some difficult to get to nuts on some equipment we have. Old units are imperial but newer ones are metric. I use a long drift and hammer to loosen and tighten the nuts. They are surprisingly useful. It can be done using conventional spanners or sockets but requires the removal of many many other parts first.

Oh yes, you tap with the hammer  :y

Never thought of them that way .. I guess they could be usefull in those circumstances .. we only ever used em as I described ... brute force ( and lots of ignorance !)
Title: Re: Are these tools available in metric ?
Post by: dbug on 22 March 2013, 23:47:11
This works ok for seized nuts http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Manual-Hammer-Impact-Driver-Tool-Heavy-Duty-/261184527124?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item3ccfcf9b14 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Manual-Hammer-Impact-Driver-Tool-Heavy-Duty-/261184527124?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item3ccfcf9b14) - just need a big hammer :y
Title: Re: Are these tools available in metric ?
Post by: mantahatch on 22 March 2013, 23:48:02
I use them for some difficult to get to nuts on some equipment we have. Old units are imperial but newer ones are metric. I use a long drift and hammer to loosen and tighten the nuts. They are surprisingly useful. It can be done using conventional spanners or sockets but requires the removal of many many other parts first.

Oh yes, you tap with the hammer  :y

Never thought of them that way .. I guess they could be usefull in those circumstances .. we only ever used em as I described ... brute force ( and lots of ignorance !)


We use quite a bit of that as well  ;D ;D 
Title: Re: Are these tools available in metric ?
Post by: mantahatch on 22 March 2013, 23:51:00
This works ok for seized nuts http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Manual-Hammer-Impact-Driver-Tool-Heavy-Duty-/261184527124?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item3ccfcf9b14 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Manual-Hammer-Impact-Driver-Tool-Heavy-Duty-/261184527124?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item3ccfcf9b14) - just need a big hammer :y

Thankfully there not seized just hard to reach with conventional tools. Looks like I may to buy some extra metric ring spanners and cut and machine them  :(
Title: Re: Are these tools available in metric ?
Post by: omega3000 on 22 March 2013, 23:51:40
It would be handy to have a set of these , are they durable ... i guess that depends on how big the hammer is  ::)
Title: Re: Are these tools available in metric ?
Post by: Entwood on 22 March 2013, 23:57:22
This works ok for seized nuts http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Manual-Hammer-Impact-Driver-Tool-Heavy-Duty-/261184527124?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item3ccfcf9b14 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Manual-Hammer-Impact-Driver-Tool-Heavy-Duty-/261184527124?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item3ccfcf9b14) - just need a big hammer :y

I have an identical one to that in the garage .. must be well over 40 years old now !! The knock offs are actually easier to use if they fit properly, as you're not struggling to hold the driver and the hammer at the same time ..  :)
Title: Re: Are these tools available in metric ?
Post by: dbug on 23 March 2013, 17:58:55
This works ok for seized nuts http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Manual-Hammer-Impact-Driver-Tool-Heavy-Duty-/261184527124?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item3ccfcf9b14 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Manual-Hammer-Impact-Driver-Tool-Heavy-Duty-/261184527124?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item3ccfcf9b14) - just need a big hammer :y

I have an identical one to that in the garage .. must be well over 40 years old now !! The knock offs are actually easier to use if they fit properly, as you're not struggling to hold the driver and the hammer at the same time ..  :)

Yep mines over 40 years old and still works ok.  And I've used really big hammers on it in the past ;)

Its probably outlived some of the hammers ::)
Title: Re: Are these tools available in metric ?
Post by: Broomies Mate on 23 March 2013, 18:15:47

Yep mines over 40 years old and still works ok.  And I've used really big hammers on it in the past ;)

Its probably outlived some of the hammers ::)

Dare I say it, tools manufactured 40yrs ago are far superior to tools manufactured now.  I have spanners, sockets, ratchets etc from my Grandfather which are still pristine.  'High-Quality' tools of today fail in comparison.  :-\
Title: Re: Are these tools available in metric ?
Post by: dbug on 23 March 2013, 20:02:38

Yep mines over 40 years old and still works ok.  And I've used really big hammers on it in the past ;)

Its probably outlived some of the hammers ::)

Dare I say it, tools manufactured 40yrs ago are far superior to tools manufactured now.  I have spanners, sockets, ratchets etc from my Grandfather which are still pristine.  'High-Quality' tools of today fail in comparison.  :-\

Agreed  :y  Still got a Gordons AF/Whit socket set bought in 1963 all in good condition including ratchet - and believe me they've had a hard life.
Title: Re: Are these tools available in metric ?
Post by: Keith ABS on 24 March 2013, 09:34:29
  Mate of mine picked up a Snap On ratchet at a boot sale a few years ago. Paid £5 for it. It didnt work. He went on the next Snap On van in his area and the bloke said" Its your grandfathers right?" as he fitted a new set of ratchet guts into it. It was stamped 1941 US Army WD. Thats some good "lifetime" service.
Keith B