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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: OmegaAnglesey on 28 March 2013, 02:03:01
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The new Vauxhall RWD Estate...
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/vauxhall-vxr8-tourer-announced
Personally I think it's not that good looking and being an estate you'd think they'd make different engines available even the insignia's 2.8T V6 would be small enough compared to a V8 ;D... And who in the current situation the way things are would pay that much for it honestly its hopeless ;D but its different from the usual stuff on the market these days (new cars) .. I wonder how Vauxhall/GM will do with this monster of a car..
Didn't the Monaro when new cost around £30-£40k when new ???
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In short... Yep :y
Finally a replacement for the Omega estate and in V8 flavour too :y :y
It'll depreciate like hell so will be good value at 6 months plus ;)
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8) My only question is when?
Technically it has been available here since the facelift was launched, and an estate has been around since 2007 ::)
Don't be too sure about the depreciation though. Alot of the 2009 cars were sold for 23-25k, yet are still fetching mid to high teens. Even assuming their list price of £35k, that's only 50% depreciation over four years, compared to the 65-70% that the Omega suffered :-\
I won't be rushing out to buy the first one, but that has just bumped the XF estate from the top of the wish list ::)
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Lets see which is cheapest nearer the time. Sportbrake or vxr8 tourer?
My money is on the vxr8. ...in black of course. :)
Sadly they won't import the better looking older model though. As it will have to be used. :(
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a v8 would be very nice to drive but not a realistic daily car :-\
may be a weekend car only..
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I wonder if they do a factory fit lpg system on the v8 ?
Now that would be a winner :-*
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Looks good. It's a yes from me. :y
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a v8 would be very nice to drive but not a realistic daily car :-\
may be a weekend car only..
Why? Economy figures on most modern V8's are actually better than the current Omega figures ;)
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Shame it appears to come ready-chavved. ::)
I think I could easily live with a manual LPG'ed V8 as a everyday car, though.
EDIT: Don't forget that we are in quite a cushy position regarding road tax with the Omega, though. These will be in the full-fat tax band that will, I'm sure, be subject to some serious hikes in future.
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a v8 would be very nice to drive but not a realistic daily car :-\
may be a weekend car only..
Why? Economy figures on most modern V8's are actually better than the current Omega figures ;)
there is no way a 5 litre engine can consume less than a 3 or 2.5 litre engine.. ( if we exclude hemi)
air fuel ratio is fix.. and no one buys a v8 to drive in economy mode.. :y
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a v8 would be very nice to drive but not a realistic daily car :-\
may be a weekend car only..
Why? Economy figures on most modern V8's are actually better than the current Omega figures ;)
there is no way a 5 litre engine can consume less than a 3 or 2.5 litre engine.. ( if we exclude hemi)
air fuel ratio is fix.. and no one buys a v8 to drive in economy mode.. :y
Been for a blast in someone's 6.0 Supercharged Monaro. Driven normally its as economical as 3.2 V6, if not better ;)
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Very nice , can just see me towing a caravan to the south of france with that :)
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a v8 would be very nice to drive but not a realistic daily car :-\
may be a weekend car only..
Why? Economy figures on most modern V8's are actually better than the current Omega figures ;)
there is no way a 5 litre engine can consume less than a 3 or 2.5 litre engine.. ( if we exclude hemi)
air fuel ratio is fix.. and no one buys a v8 to drive in economy mode.. :y
Both RobseyMV6 and 2woody I'm sure would disagree, as both say they easily get 30mpg from their LSx powered Monaro and Holden...
A larger engine can be more economical if driven gently :)
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My 3.2, driven half sensibly, is currently knocking back unleaded at a rate of 20mpg :-X
A spirited test drive in a manual VXR8 will see about 17mpg, so nearly twice as economical given the cc difference :y
Driven carefully, with a degree of anticipation, a running average of 25mpg is easily possible. And before you say 'where's the fun in that?', 1st is for getting moving, 2nd is for reaching the speed you require, 6th is for when you get to said speed. Anything else on busy roads is plain showing off ::)
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And for the caravanists among us...
Towing & Payload
Holden provides a full range of towing equipment to suit your needs. The 2100kg towing kit is available with a range of accessories to suit every requirement. Only Holden approved tow bars are designed specifically for your vehicle, and are covered by Holden's warranty. Price quoted includes towbar, tounge, wiring harness, equaliser hitch and rear fascia escutcheon. Mandated brake equipment requirements apply when trailer loads exceed 750kg, please refer to Owner's Handbook for further information. Mandated load distribution equipment requirements apply when trailer loads exceed 1600kgs.
Taken from...
http://www.holden.com.au/products-and-services/accessories?vehicle=1236926432140&model=1236943790960 (http://www.holden.com.au/products-and-services/accessories?vehicle=1236926432140&model=1236943790960)
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The newer Holdens of that ilk do come with lpg. But not, I believe, with the touring. Sadly.
Cem, I thought you would have googled.
http://www.holden.com.au/vehicles/commodore/efficiency
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Get a better standard of fitting here, and better support if you use an euro sourced kit, although the Aussies, for all their faults, actually appreciate the benefits of lpg, unlike some politicians here ::)
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The newer Holdens of that ilk do come with lpg. But not, I believe, with the touring. Sadly.
Cem, I thought you would have googled.
http://www.holden.com.au/vehicles/commodore/efficiency (http://www.holden.com.au/vehicles/commodore/efficiency)
I dont care about claims.. :) if I stop myself I can also drop the miggy consumption down to 35 mpg..
but that wont be the everyday figure.. may be only a small gorup of us can drive like that continously ;D
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a v8 would be very nice to drive but not a realistic daily car :-\
may be a weekend car only..
Why? Economy figures on most modern V8's are actually better than the current Omega figures ;)
there is no way a 5 litre engine can consume less than a 3 or 2.5 litre engine.. ( if we exclude hemi)
air fuel ratio is fix.. and no one buys a v8 to drive in economy mode.. :y
Both RobseyMV6 and 2woody I'm sure would disagree, as both say they easily get 30mpg from their LSx powered Monaro and Holden...
A larger engine can be more economical if driven gently :)
.....where as I will get 10-12 mpg continously from those cars ;D until my wallet becomes empty :'(
and you probably single digit figures ;D :y
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and you probably single digit figures ;D :y
I can do that in the MV6, although it takes some effort to average that for more than a few gallons ;D
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Every little helps. ;)
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Actually... What am I on about.
Who gives a flying f*** what the economy is. I want one. The end. !
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and you probably single digit figures ;D :y
I can do that in the MV6, although it takes some effort to average that for more than a few gallons ;D
Take it your wallet (or Mrs TB) screams at you ;D ;)
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Now that is a sexy car. ;D ;D
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and you probably single digit figures ;D :y
I can do that in the MV6, although it takes some effort to average that for more than a few gallons ;D
Take it your wallet (or Mrs TB) screams at you ;D ;)
You get to a speed, where even foot to the floor, it actually starts returning respectable economy, for a reason I don't really understand...
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I think its ugly, not a patch on the Omega. A waste of a nice engine. :y
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a v8 would be very nice to drive but not a realistic daily car :-\
may be a weekend car only..
Why? Economy figures on most modern V8's are actually better than the current Omega figures ;)
there is no way a 5 litre engine can consume less than a 3 or 2.5 litre engine.. ( if we exclude hemi)
air fuel ratio is fix.. and no one buys a v8 to drive in economy mode.. :y
Sorry Cem, you're wrong. Easy to get better economy out of a bigger engine... That's why a V6 omega can easily be more economical than a 4 pot ::)
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and you probably single digit figures ;D :y
I can do that in the MV6, although it takes some effort to average that for more than a few gallons ;D
Take it your wallet (or Mrs TB) screams at you ;D ;)
You get to a speed, where even foot to the floor, it actually starts returning respectable economy, for a reason I don't really understand...
That'll be because you need a bigger engine that'll drink fuel faster. :y
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Only one way to solve this ::)
I'm going to have to get one and run it as a cab. That way you can all find out just how economical it is and also how reliable it is upto 200+k :y
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I quite fancied a late 2012 insignia vxr, from my local vauxhall dealer since they managed to mess up my zafira tourer order
The deal they offered me was almost to good to turn down... But the £815 for the first year car tax killed it for me, no matter how much I liked and frankly wanted it just couldn't justify as it meant another £500 odd quid on purchase price, strangely there was no room for negotiation on this ;D :-X
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thats got to be one of the most ugly cars i have ever seen :o
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Yes it's not as good as the previous model. But it ain't "that" bad. ::). (In black)
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Yes it's not as good as the previous model. But it ain't "that" bad. ::). (In black)
Dark grey or white. The thing that really lets the GTS down is the king horrible wheels...
Easily sorted though with a set from either the Camaro or the previous VXR8 :y
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Horrible wheels, one of the chavviest front ends and those terrible LEDs that you cannot switch off. Those horrible black bits in the bumper, yuck! It all reminds me of Vicky Pollard from Little Britain.
The previous model was so much more nicer.
I wouldn't buy that, just as I wouldn't buy a Focus RS or a Impreza WRX/STI or whatever its called.
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Horrible wheels, one of the chavviest front ends and those terrible LEDs that you cannot switch off. Those horrible black bits in the bumper, yuck! It all reminds me of Vicky Pollard from Little Britain.
The previous model was so much more nicer.
I wouldn't buy that, just as I wouldn't buy a Focus RS or a Impreza WRX/STI or whatever its called.
Bumper is only clipped on, previous one fits straight on :y
Sadly the powers that be insist on daytime running lights to hide the motorbicyclists, so we're stuck with them. Try and buy a new car without. But as said fit the earlier bumper and some more thoughtfully located running lights ::)
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Right, if D hates it, I'm defo getting one. And posting lots of lovely pics of it on here. Just for him. ;D
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In fact here's one in white, just to show up all the lovely details that the black one hides. :)
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/c11132d5.jpg)
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Interestingly it's shod with Bridgestone Extra Load rated tyres
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That one is missing a few bits ::)
Don't worry, this one isn't ;D ...
http://www.toomey.uk.com/vauxhall/used-cars/154/vauxhall-vxr8 (http://www.toomey.uk.com/vauxhall/used-cars/154/vauxhall-vxr8)
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Still hideous! Am I being cynical in suspecting that some of you petrol heads may be seduced by the performance and are therefore able to forget your dislike of its appearance! :y
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Still hideous! Am I being cynical in suspecting that some of you petrol heads may be seduced by the performance and are therefore able to forget your dislike of its appearance! :y
All down to personal taste... I quite like the estate version :y
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That one is missing a few bits ::)
Don't worry, this one isn't ;D ...
http://www.toomey.uk.com/vauxhall/used-cars/154/vauxhall-vxr8 (http://www.toomey.uk.com/vauxhall/used-cars/154/vauxhall-vxr8)
Located at Vauxhall Basildon
It belongs there IMHO. :-X
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For the doubters among us :y
NWS...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Y-dmRGAkE&feature=youtube_gdata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Y-dmRGAkE&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
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Looks great in white to me..
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For the doubters among us :y
NWS...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Y-dmRGAkE&feature=youtube_gdata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Y-dmRGAkE&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D How true :y
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Still hideous! Am I being cynical in suspecting that some of you petrol heads may be seduced by the performance and are therefore able to forget your dislike of its appearance! :y
Yep. It's not the best looking, but there's way worse.
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For the doubters among us :y
NWS...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Y-dmRGAkE&feature=youtube_gdata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Y-dmRGAkE&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D How true :y
Pmsl. ;D :y
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For the doubters among us :y
NWS...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Y-dmRGAkE&feature=youtube_gdata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Y-dmRGAkE&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Absof*****glutely Brilliant ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
And it even mentions it having to be in black for GayBoy! :y
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Right, if D hates it, I'm defo getting one. And posting lots of lovely pics of it on here. Just for him. ;D
Oh my god. I now have this image of you and Vicky Pollard in my mind. :o
Need to find a therapist to get rid of that image!
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For the doubters among us :y
NWS...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Y-dmRGAkE&feature=youtube_gdata_player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Y-dmRGAkE&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Absof*****glutely Brilliant ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
And it even mentions it having to be in black for GayBoy! :y
Dirty old man. :P
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Interestingly it's shod with Bridgestone Extra Load rated tyres
Taken from that exact car. :)
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/A40B2611-D390-4C89-8B4A-3311800CC936-2874-0000013581DE9EC9_zpse55d99d2.jpg)
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As you've obviously been window shopping, what's the official available date for the estate :-\
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Right, if D hates it, I'm defo getting one. And posting lots of lovely pics of it on here. Just for him. ;D
Oh my god. I now have this image of you and Vicky Pollard in my mind. :o
Need to find a therapist to get rid of that image!
:-*. ;D
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/868898331bc9ce3deca150e5662ce014_zpsa608f993.jpg)
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Classy ;D
Now answer the question ::)
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In fact here's one in white, just to show up all the lovely details that the black one hides. :)
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/c11132d5.jpg)
front design very similiar bimmers.. and looks like a chav car imo..
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Can't see the looks from behind the wheel ::)
Doesn't look any worse than a PFL Omega :P
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Classy ;D
Now answer the question ::)
No idea. This is all old info, was looking last summer.
And if it pisses cem off, bonus. ;)
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;D
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Classy ;D
Now answer the question ::)
No idea. This is all old info, was looking last summer.
And if it pisses cem off, bonus. ;)
chav cars dont piss me , only makes me laugh ;D :y
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............yes, no question.
I don't think that the VXR8 that we get in the UK is especially good looking. :-\ As people have already said, too much Chavness really.
I prefer the Commodore SS-V which looks MUCH nicer 8) 8) :y - Not so boy racerish.
I guess it (SS-V) could be imported by Wilkinshaw..... However, probably not worth it now that Vaux have imported the GTS as the VXR8
All the V8 Commodore variants are available with factory fitted LPG - just look at the options list on the Holden site........
here's hoping........ ;)
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Classy ;D
Now answer the question ::)
No idea. This is all old info, was looking last summer.
And if it pisses cem off, bonus. ;)
chav cars dont piss me , only makes me laugh ;D :y
Too late cem, cats out of the bag.
Have some rear bumper. ;)
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/17b9f3740f76cc45003b4db7ac972c69_zps275080c6.jpg)
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Those wheels really are shite aren't they. :o ;D
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Classy ;D
Now answer the question ::)
No idea. This is all old info, was looking last summer.
And if it pisses cem off, bonus. ;)
chav cars dont piss me , only makes me laugh ;D :y
Too late cem, cats out of the bag.
Have some rear bumper. ;)
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/17b9f3740f76cc45003b4db7ac972c69_zps275080c6.jpg)
it just doesn't have the same appeal visually that the Omega has.. As many have said it does have a Chav/Boy racer look to it .. In other words its a wolf in wolfs clothing. But then again everyone has different likes and dislikes ..
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That rear bumper is straight from a Halfords boy racer accessories section.
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............yes, no question.
I don't think that the VXR8 that we get in the UK is especially good looking. :-\ As people have already said, too much Chavness really.
I prefer the Commodore SS-V which looks MUCH nicer 8) 8) :y - Not so boy racerish.
I guess it (SS-V) could be imported by Wilkinshaw..... However, probably not worth it now that Vaux have imported the GTS as the VXR8
All the V8 Commodore variants are available with factory fitted LPG - just look at the options list on the Holden site........
here's hoping........ ;)
:y :y :y
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Classy ;D
Now answer the question ::)
No idea. This is all old info, was looking last summer.
And if it pisses cem off, bonus. ;)
chav cars dont piss me , only makes me laugh ;D :y
Too late cem, cats out of the bag.
Have some rear bumper. ;)
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p326/chrisgixer/17b9f3740f76cc45003b4db7ac972c69_zps275080c6.jpg)
thats the ugliest car ars* I have ever seen ;D ;D
design compartment needs new workers imo.. :-X
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Those wheels really are shite aren't they. :o ;D
shame they use so bad designs in all parts with that powerful engine.. :-\
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Those wheels really are shite aren't they. :o ;D
shame they use so bad designs in all parts with that powerful engine.. :-\
Its just bumpers and wheels. But arguably not a step forward .
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Might struggle to find earlier bumpers in that very fetching shade of yellow ::)
I'm sure someone with an early VXR8 would swap those wheels though :y
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Might struggle to find earlier bumpers in that very fetching shade of yellow ::)
I'm sure someone with an early VXR8 would swap those wheels though :y
Do you know what those alloys on the yellow VXR8 remind me of ? ...... The PFL/Mini FL MV6 alloys just slightly.
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no sorry its too gay for me :y rather get a Dodge Charger :y
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Black is probably the only colour it can get away with... Stealth look not so bad ? :-\
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http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=27394
Obviously the tourer won't have the saloons rear bumper.
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From the pics, the tourer has the earlier back bumper anyway :y
Don't forget the Aussies have been building them since 2006 ::)
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For those that might be interested...
£49,500 otr. £1000 gets one ordered, then a 5/6 month wait.
So far the blue estate shown is the only one in the UK :y
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I'd be interested - if I had that kind of cash laying around doing nothing that I wouldn't miss.. ;D
Perhaps in a few years.. or decades.
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:P
I'd be interested - if I had that kind of cash laying around doing nothing that I wouldn't miss.. ;D
Perhaps in a few years.. or decades.
you and me both ::)
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That estate is seriously fugly,is a crash helmet with dark visor supplied for the driver ? ;D
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Nope, comes with a free smile from ear to ear that a crash hat won't fit over. :y