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Title: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: Webby the Bear on 01 April 2013, 19:18:27
Hi gays, I mean guys...

Well had to replace the disspac today as part of the narrowing down of the fuel consumption issue (been a while I know but been sooo busy).

Anyway, I removed it and decided to relocate it. I don't care what anyone says... this is difficult to remove. I'm cut to shreds and lost my swivel socket twice. I did intend to put it back but though f..k that i'll simply relocate. a bit of thought went in to the location and the routing of the leads an I think ive got it to a point where none of them are touching anything hot and are protected where needed with wire protector sleeve thingys.....

(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/webbybear1/disreplace_zpse664f140.jpg)

And the bonnet shuts well too so winner all round I reckon  :y

Anyhow on relocation of the diss pac I decided to pop out the HT leads and since my compression test which was only a few weeks ago there is a little bit of oil on pass side 2 and 4 ht lead. now its only a little bit and there was no oil in the wells (like when mine went before and filled every well with oil  ::)) but is this an indication the pass side's on its way out and should be replaced?

cheers  :y
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 01 April 2013, 19:21:50
On the "posher" Omega, we have something called a coil pack. ;D ;)
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: Webby the Bear on 01 April 2013, 19:27:21
On the "posher" Omega, we have something called a coil pack. ;D ;)

 ::) ;D

well either way that's where its farkin' well staying!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: Webby the Bear on 01 April 2013, 19:39:25
oh the other thing I had to do to make space was remove the filler neck and have the cap directly on the cc cover. the ''coil pack'' lol now sits nicely where this used to be  :y
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: amba on 01 April 2013, 19:40:13
Have you fabricated some mounting bracket for it ? as imagine it does have the tendancy to move around abit otherwise
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: Webby the Bear on 01 April 2013, 19:45:41
Have you fabricated some mounting bracket for it ? as imagine it does have the tendancy to move around abit otherwise

no mate. i'm going to drive it about a bit, see if theres any movement but for now its cable tied in place  :y
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: TheBoy on 01 April 2013, 19:52:27
I'd advise putting it back where it came from, as its then out of the way, and secure.
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: tunnie on 01 April 2013, 20:33:25
Over the life time (generally) you only need to change it once, afters it's been swapped its very unlikely in the ownership of the car you will be back there.

Its tucked out of the way, secure & won't move it's original position.

Where you have it, it's going to move around a lot, get in the way during oil changed and subject to much more road muck and grime.

Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: Murph on 01 April 2013, 21:39:49
I relocated mine too.
It now sits just below the airbox.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/daymurphy/20120514_204535.jpg)

The HT leads can be routed below the top plenum to keep it tidy too.
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: Webby the Bear on 01 April 2013, 21:41:59
cheers boys. Ill see how it goes. So far no noise. And i can easily get to the cam cover for oil change :-) does anyone know if i need to do the pass. Side cam cover gasket? As mentioned its just a tiny bit of oil on the leads. :)
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: Webby the Bear on 01 April 2013, 21:45:41
nice one Murph. I remember that pic you posted showing it below the air box. I'd like to do that and fabricate a securing plate or something. But how did you extend the connector going to the coil pack? :-)
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: Murph on 01 April 2013, 22:36:40
I used four lengths of wire of different colours with small spade connectors, male one end and female the other end.
Bound up with electrical tape then routed out of the way so it doesn't cause any problems then plugged in, being careful to connect the right wire to the right pin.
A computer hard drive power plug (molex type) can be used at the dispack end.
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: Webby the Bear on 02 April 2013, 13:34:13
I used four lengths of wire of different colours with small spade connectors, male one end and female the other end.
Bound up with electrical tape then routed out of the way so it doesn't cause any problems then plugged in, being careful to connect the right wire to the right pin.
A computer hard drive power plug (molex type) can be used at the dispack end.

any chance of a photo murph?  :y
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: omega3000 on 02 April 2013, 13:48:25
Put it back and seal the scuttle , it wont break again even if it was a pattern part  ;D They dont like to take a shower very often  :P
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: TheBoy on 02 April 2013, 18:01:22
//Kiss of death to the Silver Bullet

My MV6 is on its original DIS at 199k. And thats LPG, thus needs good HT
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: Murph on 02 April 2013, 18:23:58
I will get a pic in the morning for you fella.
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: Webby the Bear on 02 April 2013, 19:32:32
nice one Murph :-) to be honest its not to do with the replacement every one hundred thousand miles. It was more to do with if i wired it up wrong then I'd have to strip down and do it all again. This way when i need to clean breathers i disconnect and flop to one side and proceed as normal
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: Murph on 02 April 2013, 21:01:39
Aaah well that bit is easy.
Say you use 4 wires: you probably won't have the same colours as the original wiring but thats OK as long as you have a black one. Maybe you have red green blue and black.
Gently peel back the insulation on the dispack plug and note the wire colours. at one end or the other there will be a black wire.

Plug them in to the wiring at the bulkhead making sure to note the order, starting with the black which is your key.
You now go the dispack and plug them in in the same order with the black in its correct position.
You will be able to see by the shape of the plug which way round to do this, e.g when the curve of the plug is at the top the black is the first wire.
As long as you stick to the same order of colours one of two things will happen - either the car will start or it won't.
If it does then congrats - you're done.
If not, unplug the wires from the dispack and reverse the order - it's easier than you think to get it the wrong way round. Once done, the car will start.
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: symes on 02 April 2013, 22:28:57
surely if going this way why not cut/extend wires that way you got the plug too :y
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: Murph on 02 April 2013, 22:38:30
For my part, I wanted to leave the wiring unmolested so I could go back to the standard configuration later if I want to.
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: symes on 02 April 2013, 22:51:48
well if you not bothered to leave it in stock position and going through all that work to move it -you might as well make it permanent-I cant do that with mine as where you place your coil pack is were my vaporiser sits
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: Murph on 03 April 2013, 08:35:37
Can't fault your reasoning there, although in my case the mod was necessary.
My coil pack had failed and the only spare I had was from a cavalier and that didn't fit on the OE bracket, so I had to come up with an alternative.
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 April 2013, 10:00:59
Can't fault your reasoning there, although in my case the mod was necessary.
My coil pack had failed and the only spare I had was from a cavalier and that didn't fit on the OE bracket, so I had to come up with an alternative.

The Cav/early Omega V6 bracket simply bolts to the rear of the head.  :y
Title: Re: Disspac removal and relocation + CC gasket question
Post by: Murph on 03 April 2013, 13:08:01
True, but when I scrapped the Cav (long before I bought the Mega) I didnt keep the bracket.