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Title: divs guide to breathers
Post by: millwall on 08 April 2013, 20:13:25
Well ive read the guides my cam covers have got a little leak even though they were done a year ago so im thinking the breathers werent done so being a bit of a div i have a couple of questions must i fully remove plenum to do the work is it only 2 pipes to clean or all 4 at the back of the black thing on the top will cleaning them ease of the leak until i can get them sorted as ive been shot in the hand so bit too painful to be getting too involved just at the moment :y
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: Webby the Bear on 08 April 2013, 20:18:19
Hey up Millwall  :y

I take the plenum off cos at the same time I clean the breather bridge and throttle body  :y
clean all 4 pipes of their crud, a bent paperclip to clean two breather holes in the breather box and a drill bit of about 6mm to clean out the big breather hole.
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: Webby the Bear on 08 April 2013, 20:19:00
.... plus also there's so much more room unless you have pipe cleaner fingers?  :-\ ;D :y
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: millwall on 08 April 2013, 20:26:56
Thanks webby will try it the propper way :y
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: omega3000 on 09 April 2013, 11:14:06
2 cans of carb cleaner cleans the plenum breather box out well , no need to poke it unless its solid mayo  :o
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 April 2013, 11:42:21
2 cans of carb cleaner cleans the plenum breather box out well , no need to poke it unless its solid mayo  :o

Thays why I use the screw driver as it picks up all the crap easily. i'm sure I read somewhere that you should try not to dump too much CC in the breather box  :-\
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: omega3000 on 09 April 2013, 12:02:23
2 cans of carb cleaner cleans the plenum breather box out well , no need to poke it unless its solid mayo  :o

Thays why I use the screw driver as it picks up all the crap easily. i'm sure I read somewhere that you should try not to dump too much CC in the breather box  :-\

I always take the box off , blow it through with cleaner then let it drain and dry out  :y
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 April 2013, 12:16:46
2 cans of carb cleaner cleans the plenum breather box out well , no need to poke it unless its solid mayo  :o

Thays why I use the screw driver as it picks up all the crap easily. i'm sure I read somewhere that you should try not to dump too much CC in the breather box  :-\

I always take the box off , blow it through with cleaner then let it drain and dry out  :y

Aha! That's where i'm goiung wrong... I never knew you could take it off  :-[
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 April 2013, 12:34:24
Do you mean the black plastic across the plenum, or the big silver box at the back :-\

If you clean the Y shaped rubber pipe in place, the be sure to use a bucket load of carb cleaner, and change the engine oil before running the car, as that's where all the crud goes. The second largest pipe goes to a valve then to the vapour cannister in the o/s wheel arch. Too much carb cleaner down this knackers the valve, giving a smell of petrol fumes whilst running :'(

Best is to remove the pipes to clean them, then if the two holes on the breather box are blocked, remove that and clean separately, ideally soaking overnight. Needs resealing afterwards though :y

A quick squirt of WD40 through all the plastic and rubber bits before refitting is also a good idea :y iirc Entwood or Shackeng passed on that little tip :y
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 April 2013, 12:36:14
Do you mean the black plastic across the plenum, or the big silver box at the back :-\

If you clean the Y shaped rubber pipe in place, the be sure to use a bucket load of carb cleaner, and change the engine oil before running the car, as that's where all the crud goes. The second largest pipe goes to a valve then to the vapour cannister in the o/s wheel arch. Too much carb cleaner down this knackers the valve, giving a smell of petrol fumes whilst running :'(

Best is to remove the pipes to clean them, then if the two holes on the breather box are blocked, remove that and clean separately, ideally soaking overnight. Needs resealing afterwards though :y

thought thatsa what we were talkin' about lol  :-\ :-\ ;D
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 April 2013, 12:37:35
Just checking Mr Ted :y
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: Entwood on 09 April 2013, 12:58:56
Do you mean the black plastic across the plenum, or the big silver box at the back :-\

If you clean the Y shaped rubber pipe in place, the be sure to use a bucket load of carb cleaner, and change the engine oil before running the car, as that's where all the crud goes. The second largest pipe goes to a valve then to the vapour cannister in the o/s wheel arch. Too much carb cleaner down this knackers the valve, giving a smell of petrol fumes whilst running :'(

Best is to remove the pipes to clean them, then if the two holes on the breather box are blocked, remove that and clean separately, ideally soaking overnight. Needs resealing afterwards though :y

A quick squirt of WD40 through all the plastic and rubber bits before refitting is also a good idea :y iirc Entwood or Shackeng passed on that little tip :y

Certainly not me ... I don't think I own a can of Satan's fluid ... and WD40 and plastic are not words that should be used in the same sentence unless you want a horrible sticky mess ..... :)
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: omega3000 on 09 April 2013, 13:41:59
Do you mean the black plastic across the plenum, or the big silver box at the back :-\

If you clean the Y shaped rubber pipe in place, the be sure to use a bucket load of carb cleaner, and change the engine oil before running the car, as that's where all the crud goes. The second largest pipe goes to a valve then to the vapour cannister in the o/s wheel arch. Too much carb cleaner down this knackers the valve, giving a smell of petrol fumes whilst running :'(

Best is to remove the pipes to clean them, then if the two holes on the breather box are blocked, remove that and clean separately, ideally soaking overnight. Needs resealing afterwards though :y

thought thatsa what we were talkin' about lol  :-\ :-\ ;D

Silver box can be took off i think  :-\ didnt take mine off as it looked a pig to get at with a bad back  :-[ , black plastic breather on top of plenum i take off to clean  ;)
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 April 2013, 14:48:39
Apologies Nigel :-[ I thought it might have been either of you wiser peoples. It was at Guffers last bash, there was rugby on, and I've slept since then, so it could easily have been Guffers/TB/Lazydocker....

Or anyone else there for that matter ::)

The reason, as I recall it, was that carb cleaner 'dries' the rubber/plastics, causing them to go brittle :-\
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: scottambrose on 09 April 2013, 17:11:36
how does the breather metal box come off
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: millwall on 09 April 2013, 20:57:52
Thanks for all the posts definately makes more sense now as previously asked how does box come off :y
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: 05omegav6 on 10 April 2013, 01:08:55
Four torx bolts, refitted with grey sealant :y

Believe there's a guide buried around here somewhere ::)
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: symes on 10 April 2013, 18:30:56
Easiest way to clean breather pipes is disconnect them and spray a little carb cleaner spray in them and blast out with airline :y
and to remove breather box you need to take off heat shield form exhaust and as bolt on back of heat shield is a pig to get at easier with down pipe removed :y
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 April 2013, 18:34:51
I wouldn't bother taking the box off. There's the square root of damn all in it to get blocked, so just give it a good squirt of carb cleaner, unblock the smaller nozzle with a pin if necessary and check with a length of hose that you can blow down each port on it freely.
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: symes on 10 April 2013, 18:43:03
I wouldn't bother taking the box off. There's the square root of damn all in it to get blocked, so just give it a good squirt of carb cleaner, unblock the smaller nozzle with a pin if necessary and check with a length of hose that you can blow down each port on it freely.
+1 but they wanted to know anyway :y
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: millwall on 10 April 2013, 18:46:59
Thanks to all the advice on here did the breathers today as weather was good was easier than i thought it would be  waste of time though it was all clean so must of been done recently still its peace of mind and at least it will now be easiet next time  :y
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: millwall on 10 April 2013, 18:48:00
Forgot to say didnt bother removing the box
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: symes on 10 April 2013, 18:50:36
Thanks to all the advice on here did the breathers today as weather was good was easier than i thought it would be  waste of time though it was all clean so must of been done recently still its peace of mind and at least it will now be easiet next time  :y
Practice makes perfect eh mate-well done :y
Forgot to say didnt bother removing the box
  :y :y
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: Kevin Wood on 11 April 2013, 13:49:12
Thanks to all the advice on here did the breathers today as weather was good was easier than i thought it would be  waste of time though it was all clean so must of been done recently still its peace of mind and at least it will now be easiet next time  :y

Better to know they're clear than have to mess about with the cam cover gaskets.
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: SMD on 11 April 2013, 21:08:31
Another div here. I need to do mine next month. 

So cleaning breathers is essentially,

1. Remove plenum and breather bridge. Clean breather bridge, throttle body and inside of plenum (if necessary)
2. The four pipes at the back the the breather bridge. Two large ones join into one pipe and connect to the breather box at the back of the passenger side. Take this off and clean as well as removing the crud in the hole.
3. Do the same with the smaller of the two remaining pipes.

What does the other pipe do?   

Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: Webby the Bear on 11 April 2013, 21:17:18
spot on SMD. don't empty a bottle of carb cleaner down in to the breather box though. get crud out with a drill bit (twist and the crud will catch on the drill bit) for the big hole and a bent paper clip for the two smaller holes  :y
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: SMD on 11 April 2013, 22:10:21
Thanks. Been here 4 years and owned two omegas in that time and I have finally figured it out  ;D
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: Webby the Bear on 11 April 2013, 22:47:25
Thanks. Been here 4 years and owned two omegas in that time and I have finally figured it out  ;D

don't matter mate... when I first took a plenum off it took me 3 hours just to get the thing off. ive taken it off now loadsa times. comes off in 15 mins now  :y
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: millwall on 12 April 2013, 09:45:43
Thanks. Been here 4 years and owned two omegas in that time and I have finally figured it out  ;D

if you want a extra pair of hands or get stuck more than willing to help as your in london :y
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: omega3000 on 12 April 2013, 11:19:38
Whats a plenum  ::) ;D
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: SMD on 12 April 2013, 17:34:46
Thanks. Been here 4 years and owned two omegas in that time and I have finally figured it out  ;D

if you want a extra pair of hands or get stuck more than willing to help as your in london :y

Thanks, appreciate the offer. May take you up on it although I'm near West Ham. Will that be a problem  ;D
Title: Re: divs guide to breathers
Post by: millwall on 12 April 2013, 22:52:27
Only if i wear a millwall shirt and bring my van which has a massive millwall sticket on it ;D