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Title: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: tigers_gonads on 10 April 2013, 19:55:59
Opinions please
Price for front and rear, 3.2 mv6 estate ?

Sorry, can't seem to get on the site  ::)

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: Webby the Bear on 10 April 2013, 19:56:52
I too cant get on site. has someone gone in and 'dangle berries'ed with the password  :-\ ::)
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: TheBoy on 10 April 2013, 19:57:23
Front around £10, rear around £10. Sensors around £7 each. All plus VAT
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: TheBoy on 10 April 2013, 19:57:47
Rear pads aren't on the useless website anyway.
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: Webby the Bear on 10 April 2013, 19:59:47
Rear pads aren't on the useless website anyway.

got mine from europarts. £15 iirc. but that's good for my driving. I know you like to drive more, err, spirited so you prob need stronger ones  ;D
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: tigers_gonads on 10 April 2013, 20:03:33
Thanks for that  :)

Brakes was shite so was near the top of "list of things too" do but now the back is grinding / binding and it isn't a stone in the stone guard either  >:(

Anybody got the part numbers handy ?

Evans Halshaw around these parts are total breakwits  ::)
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: tigers_gonads on 10 April 2013, 20:04:30
Rear pads aren't on the useless website anyway.

got mine from europarts. £15 iirc. but that's good for my driving. I know you like to drive more, err, spirited so you prob need stronger ones  ;D


You bitch  :-*  :P :D
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: Webby the Bear on 10 April 2013, 20:10:04
Rear pads aren't on the useless website anyway.

got mine from europarts. £15 iirc. but that's good for my driving. I know you like to drive more, err, spirited so you prob need stronger ones  ;D


You bitch  :-*  :P :D

he loves it  ::) :D
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: RobG on 10 April 2013, 20:11:31
I too cant get on site. has someone gone in and 'dangle berries'ed with the password  :-\ ::)
I can :P :P ;D
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: tigers_gonads on 10 April 2013, 20:13:52
I can't  :'(

Do us the honour of digging the part numbers / prices out please Rob  :)

Oh, can we all have a picture too  :-X ;D
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: Webby the Bear on 10 April 2013, 20:14:48
I can't  :'(

Do us the honour of digging the part numbers / prices out please Rob  :)

Oh, can we all have a picture too  :-X ;D

haha yeah rob, get me the part number for a long weight while youre there  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: RobG on 10 April 2013, 20:21:20
Fronts 9192124 around £15
Rears  9192126 around £15
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: tigers_gonads on 10 April 2013, 20:22:11
Fronts 9192124 around £15
Rears  9192126 around £15

Cheers Rob  :-*
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: Webby the Bear on 10 April 2013, 20:24:59
...and the long weight???  :-\
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: TheBoy on 10 April 2013, 20:29:23
Rear pads aren't on the useless website anyway.

got mine from europarts. £15 iirc. but that's good for my driving. I know you like to drive more, err, spirited so you prob need stronger ones  ;D
Rears get more of a hammering when accelerating than braking, so you could fit chocolate ones if you never visited the local BP in Brackley. God they are useless retards.
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: tigers_gonads on 11 April 2013, 09:32:28
Vented / Non vented rear discs
Are they the same pads ?

Local oppswit dealer says 15 quid for the fronts, 12.77 for the rears   :)
So I ask him to check again after explaining that the car has the vented rear discs fitted and he comes back with a price of .................. 57 quid + vat and it will take 2 days to arrive >:(
Walk out and phone a local factors who tell me that 3 manufactures catalogues say they is only one pad fitted the the rears of the omega and he can have them too me within the hour for 19 quid inc  :-\

Who's right on this.

oppswit dealer or the local factors ?
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: Entwood on 11 April 2013, 09:46:11
If memory serves me correctly, and it probably doesn't .. there is definitly a difference, either in the pads or the caliper .... if the wrong one is fitted the piston can over extend and drop out as the unvented disc is much thinner than the vented one.

I'll try and research it better ... back in a moment  :)
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: hotel21 on 11 April 2013, 09:47:31
Rear pads are different between vented and non vented discs.  Thats why MickDundee had the rear pistons pop out of the caliper and lost brake fluid/brakes, as I remember it.,,,,,   :o
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 11 April 2013, 09:49:08
Rear pads aren't on the useless website anyway.

got mine from europarts. £15 iirc. but that's good for my driving. I know you like to drive more, err, spirited so you prob need stronger ones  ;D
Rears get more of a hammering when accelerating than braking, so you could fit chocolate ones if you never visited the local BP in Brackley. God they are useless retards.

Why?
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: hotel21 on 11 April 2013, 09:49:24
.... or was it vented calipers and solid disc combo.  Best wait for Nige to do some digging.  Not able to do that myself at the mo, sorry.
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: Entwood on 11 April 2013, 09:49:56
OK .. my ancient - and probably out of date version of the EPC ..

part no 9193476 - pads for unvented rear brakes

part no 9195058 - pads for vented rear brakes

so different part numbers .. :)

try giving AndyC a ring ??
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: Andy B on 11 April 2013, 09:52:25
Rear pads are different between vented and non vented discs.  Thats why MickDundee had the rear pistons pop out of the caliper and lost brake fluid/brakes, as I remember it.,,,,,   :o

No .... that was because some numpty at a garage fitted solid discs at the back instead of vented.  ???
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: tigers_gonads on 11 April 2013, 09:54:18
I've just pulled up this off the tradeclub site

3.2i 24v V6 - Y32SE  Brake Shoes; 160 x 25mm  90541931  £76.50  £65.09  £46.43         

But ............. my thinking would be that the caliper would be different, not the pad itself  :-\

It wouldn't surprise me if the muppets (polite version) at Evans Halshaw around here are trying to pull a fast one.
2 weeks ago, they quoted me 108 quid +vat for 1 cam cover seal  >:(
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: tigers_gonads on 11 April 2013, 09:57:59
Rear pads aren't on the useless website anyway.

got mine from europarts. £15 iirc. but that's good for my driving. I know you like to drive more, err, spirited so you prob need stronger ones  ;D
Rears get more of a hammering when accelerating than braking, so you could fit chocolate ones if you never visited the local BP in Brackley. God they are useless retards.

Why?


The abs trying to stop him burning his tyres up on the way out of the forecourt  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: hotel21 on 11 April 2013, 10:05:32
Tigers - your last post was a price for brake shoes, not pads. The shoes are inside the hub and are for the hand brake, distinctly different to brake pads.

AndyB - I corrected my post after thinking about it, a little back the thread.    :y
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: tigers_gonads on 11 April 2013, 10:27:45
Tigers - your last post was a price for brake shoes, not pads. The shoes are inside the hub and are for the hand brake, distinctly different to brake pads.

AndyB - I corrected my post after thinking about it, a little back the thread.    :y


Yup, just found that out myself  ::) :-[
Cheers Mr B  :)

Well "a" set of pads should be here about 1pm so sit down, make yourself a cupper and awate the next episode  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: tigers_gonads on 11 April 2013, 17:49:40
Ok, the rear pads are the same BUT the spring clips and nails are different  ;)
With the vented discs, due to the extra width of the disc, the standard nails are not long enough to hold the pads in so you must reuse the nails and spring clips off the original :y

HTH   :)
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: dbug on 11 April 2013, 18:00:13
Bought a set of rear pads for Estate last year - pattern (ok as rears do little work) - specified model and vented discs, came complete with springs and the longer pins - all for less than £12.  Used these before on previous Omegas without problems (solid discs though and came with correct sized pins).

And yes pads are same for vented and solid discs - as said differences are calipers and pins.
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: mike clark on 11 April 2013, 20:42:49
i said to ya try practical
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: Webby the Bear on 11 April 2013, 20:51:43
just clean up and use the old pins and retainer. bit of copper anti-seize paste. done  :y
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: Andy B on 11 April 2013, 20:54:49
just clean up and use the old pins and retainer. bit of copper anti-seize paste. done  :y
but the anti-rattle retainer doesn't last for ever & rots away  ;) ;) They're available separately from Vauxhall for not very much.  :y
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: Webby the Bear on 11 April 2013, 20:57:28
just clean up and use the old pins and retainer. bit of copper anti-seize paste. done  :y
but the anti-rattle retainer doesn't last for ever & rots away  ;) ;) They're available separately from Vauxhall for not very much.  :y

 :y
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: tigers_gonads on 11 April 2013, 21:23:33
just clean up and use the old pins and retainer. bit of copper anti-seize paste. done  :y
but the anti-rattle retainer doesn't last for ever & rots away  ;) ;) They're available separately from Vauxhall for not very much.  :y


Don't need them, our lasses gob drowns out the sound anyway  :-X :-X :D
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: Andy B on 11 April 2013, 21:25:46
just clean up and use the old pins and retainer. bit of copper anti-seize paste. done  :y
but the anti-rattle retainer doesn't last for ever & rots away  ;) ;) They're available separately from Vauxhall for not very much.  :y


Don't need them, our lasses gob drowns out the sound anyway  :-X :-X :D

I couldn't comment ......  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2013, 08:19:51
FFS, lets settle this once and for all.

The rear pads are identical across the range, if buying pads only.

GM supply two difference compounds of pad:
Tradeclub - about £10 + VAT, comes as pad only
OE - about £50 + VAT, comes as pads and fitting kit (Pins and spring)


Because the OE include the fitting kit, they are tailored to either solid or vent discs, as the pins and spring are larger on vented discs.

IMHO, no need to use OE rear pads, making the extra cost not worthwhile, unless you need the fitting kit (which does come to around £35+VAT now).  Being a softer pad, I actually prefer the TC rear pads.
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2013, 08:22:05
Rear pads aren't on the useless website anyway.

got mine from europarts. £15 iirc. but that's good for my driving. I know you like to drive more, err, spirited so you prob need stronger ones  ;D
Rears get more of a hammering when accelerating than braking, so you could fit chocolate ones if you never visited the local BP in Brackley. God they are useless retards.

Why?


The abs trying to stop him burning his tyres up on the way out of the forecourt  ;D ;D
For the age of system, its actually pretty effective, as long as you're not a complete loser.

The BP forecourt is getting pretty rubbered in now ::)
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: tigers_gonads on 12 April 2013, 08:24:35
FFS, lets settle this once and for all.

The rear pads are identical across the range, if buying pads only.

GM supply two difference compounds of pad:
Tradeclub - about £10 + VAT, comes as pad only
OE - about £50 + VAT, comes as pads and fitting kit (Pins and spring)


Because the OE include the fitting kit, they are tailored to either solid or vent discs, as the pins and spring are larger on vented discs.

IMHO, no need to use OE rear pads, making the extra cost not worthwhile, unless you need the fitting kit (which does come to around £35+VAT now).  Being a softer pad, I actually prefer the TC rear pads.


Might be a good idea to have a section somewhere with part numbers for general maintenance items  ;)
Just a thought ................ If i'm allowed  :(
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2013, 08:32:44
I thought there was, somewhere?
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: aaronjb on 12 April 2013, 13:08:16
Rear pads aren't on the useless website anyway.

got mine from europarts. £15 iirc. but that's good for my driving. I know you like to drive more, err, spirited so you prob need stronger ones  ;D
Rears get more of a hammering when accelerating than braking, so you could fit chocolate ones if you never visited the local BP in Brackley. God they are useless retards.

Why?


The abs trying to stop him burning his tyres up on the way out of the forecourt  ;D ;D
For the age of system, its actually pretty effective, as long as you're not a complete loser.

The BP forecourt is getting pretty rubbered in now ::)

I think mine forgot how to work yesterday when I rounded a roundabout with, er, let's say a "high degree of slip angle" ;D
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2013, 13:22:08
Rear pads aren't on the useless website anyway.

got mine from europarts. £15 iirc. but that's good for my driving. I know you like to drive more, err, spirited so you prob need stronger ones  ;D
Rears get more of a hammering when accelerating than braking, so you could fit chocolate ones if you never visited the local BP in Brackley. God they are useless retards.

Why?


The abs trying to stop him burning his tyres up on the way out of the forecourt  ;D ;D
For the age of system, its actually pretty effective, as long as you're not a complete loser.

The BP forecourt is getting pretty rubbered in now ::)

I think mine forgot how to work yesterday when I rounded a roundabout with, er, let's say a "high degree of slip angle" ;D
If mine's enabled, I really struggle to get it to misbehave - going in to a corner/roundabout very hard on the brakes so you get something no dissimilar to lift off oversteer seems to be only way.  Brakes are already tightly on, so its options of applying brake or cutting power are both useless ;D

Though others have complained that their's isn't that good - in particular, Andy B says his is too intrusive.  Not suffered that myself, short of being a cock on slippery surfaces, and Andy B is old enough and ugly enough not to do that...  ...well, of course there are times for such childishness, but you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: aaronjb on 12 April 2013, 14:36:37
I may have barrelled into a roundabout at a rather high entry speed, stabbed the brakes, nailed the throttle and the rest, as they say, could be used in a court of law against me  :-X

[edit] I'm just going to take it as a sign that I should put the summer wheels back on .. ;D
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: Andy B on 12 April 2013, 14:38:16
... short of being a cock on slippery surfaces, and Andy B is old enough and ugly enough not to do that...  ...well, of course there are times for such childishness, but you know what I mean.

I can leave the Omega at home during snow/etc now that I have a 4x4   ::)
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2013, 15:54:38
... short of being a cock on slippery surfaces, and Andy B is old enough and ugly enough not to do that...  ...well, of course there are times for such childishness, but you know what I mean.

I can leave the Omega at home during snow/etc now that I have a 4x4   ::)
Not a proper one :P
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: Andy B on 12 April 2013, 16:32:07
....
Not a proper one :P

It's proper enough for me  ;) ...... and I doubt other 'proper' 4x4s ever go anywhere they'd need high/low range or diff locks - half of the green ovals go as far on a flat bed as they do on the road anyway!  ::)
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: the alarming man on 12 April 2013, 16:54:19
nothing wrong with a landy and mine don't go anywhere near a flat bed.....diff lock is ideal in the snow though...you will never get stuck :y
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: TheBoy on 12 April 2013, 17:45:47
....
Not a proper one :P

It's proper enough for me  ;) ...... and I doubt other 'proper' 4x4s ever go anywhere they'd need high/low range or diff locks - half of the green ovals go as far on a flat bed as they do on the road anyway!  ::)
Aye, most aren't used to any potential. May as well just get Vamp's Jeep. Or your MB ;D
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: the alarming man on 12 April 2013, 19:01:36
no most are just a glorified school bus and tbh most women would not know what to do with the second gear stick,one is for some an issue 8)
Title: Re: Tradeclub brake pads
Post by: TheBoy on 14 April 2013, 10:21:17
no most are just a glorified school bus and tbh most women would not know what to do with the second gear stick,one is for some an issue 8)
Not just the women