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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: horsecow on 12 April 2013, 21:21:26
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Ok guys, so I've had some rust on back drivers side (is this near side or off side) arch for a little while now and I cant bear the sight of it any more. Funds are limited so while I would like to leave it to the body shop to get it sorted properly, that won' be happening at the minute. Are there any options out there which I can do myself to treat it and stop the spread. From what I can see it hasn't spread to far but I dont want it getting any further so all advice welcome
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I tried to rectify it myself using hellfrauds spray paints. I ballsed it up. getting it to match is impossible. but that's just me. I saved up for it to be done properly. :y
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Sorry should have clarified this at the start. Have no intention of attempting to paint it, just wondering how best to sort the rust out or remove it really
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i,m not a painter but which ever way you remove the rust im sure you,ll end up with bare metal so will need painting i would leave it to the pros a small local repair shop will prob be your best bet :)
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You can buy something called krust, loads of different makes available most all look the same in liquid form (some sort of gel)
Its only purpose really is to stop rust in its tracks, having used similar products previously it turns the rust green and solidifies stopping it, however when it comes to repair it will obviously need to be taken back with something like 60 grit :y
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I've recently had a quote to replace the o/s rear arch and paint it for £250.
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250 doesn't sound too bad nitro. Was hoping I could hold off for a while as i want to get a spoiler as well and was hoping one trip to the body shop would do both but obviously i don't want the rust to spread either
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I've recently had a quote to replace the o/s rear arch and paint it for £250.
That's really good :y
I was once quoted 450 an arch to remove surface rust by a well known local body shop to us :)
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Tbh, that doesn't look that bad at the moment :-\
If you get at it THIS summer, you should be ok for a few years but remember you are only holding the rust back.
The only way to get rid long term is to chop it out :)
Grind or rub as much off as possible. Back to metal is best :y
Krust it or Bilt and Hammer do some pretty shite hot rust treatment.
Primer and paint on top :y
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Scrape off the bubbled paint and rust and use Bilthamber treatment on it,That will stop it getting worse until you get it sorted properly. :y
http://www.bilthamber.com/
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Really the best way if you can afford it is to have a replacement wheel arch fitted,as last summer I took the cheaper route and ground out all the rust,treated it with Vactan,etch primer,and reshaped the arch with a good quality filler,resprayed and blended the paint into the original finish..job's a good un :y nope the rust is back and until the weather improves I'm not able to take a look at it.I've got a feeling that the Vactan has failed, either it did'nt cure properly as temperature is important or it's just crap and I need to have a rethink for another rust treatment.But I'll definateley have another crack at it as the pennies are a bit tight at the moment :-\
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Hammerite Smooth .
Grind off paint and rust .
Apply rust eater.
Apply Hammerite .
:)
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my opinion is the only long term solution is replacement of the panel. but that is mega bucks. I wont tell you how much I was quoted :o :o :o so unless you can fabricate it yourself have a spare £200 to get it redone every year cos imo it will come back
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I guess how could hold off until summer to get it done properly. There is a really good body man who lives near me that I've used before, he really does top quality work. Is it possible to buy a rear quarter panel and what kind of money would I be looking at for one?
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Hammerite Smooth .
Grind off paint and rust .
Apply rust eater.
Apply Hammerite .
:)
:y :y :y
I mixed a bit of Black and Royal Blue Hammerite smooth to achieve ' Almost Nocturno Blue ' and you can only spot it close up!! :)
Good for a temporary repair until you've got the cash for the bodyshop! :y
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sand down to bare metal (150 dry) inside out and then use epoxy (you can use even cheapo home epoxy) inside out..
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sand down to bare metal (150 dry) inside out and then use epoxy (you can use even cheapo home epoxy) inside out..
I forgot about (http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp6/Scarletrae84/Forums/hail.gif) Epoxy
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sand down to bare metal (150 dry) inside out and then use epoxy (you can use even cheapo home epoxy) inside out..
I forgot about (http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp6/Scarletrae84/Forums/hail.gif) Epoxy
;D :y
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Ive seen videos of the rust being cut out and new metal welded in , sure this is the best solution if your going to keep the car and want it 100% .. seems when the paint has already lifted you will find it will always blister and flake again after any paint repair so only solution would be to cut the metal out :) I did a repair job on mine then just used hammerite , it lasted a year then started to come through again and that had been treated with rust cure as well :(
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No such thing as a cure for rust I'm afraid. ::)
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Is it possible to buy a rear quarter panel from a breakers, are they easy to take off or do they need to be cut off and what sort of cost would one be? If they are easy removed I'd probably just go down that road tbh if I can find one that's in good nick as I don't want to be fixing this every year and that's the only place on the motor that has any rust at all. Was hoping I would be able to fix some of this myself but I have absolutely no experience with this kind of thing so looks like I'll have to get the piggy bank out :'( :'(
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Replacing the entire rear panel, although possible, would be a very difficult job.
Get a couple of quotes from Bodyshops to cut a section from another panel and weld it into your car.
It won't be cheap though, and if it is cheap, ask yourself why!
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You can get brand new wheel arch repair panels ...
http://www.crashrepairparts.com/parts/partid/VX459BKAAR/Rear_Wheel_Arch/vauxhall/omega/estate/saloon?_ts=4887
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I've always used the same body shop before so i'll be using him again regardless and I'll basically leave it up to him how he decides to fix it, but I know he wont screw me on the price or the work he does, its just getting the pennies gathered up to get it done now. I did ask him about fixing it before and I think he said between £2-300 but it was a while ago now. Just spoils the look of the motor and I hate seeing it especially on the drivers side as I always see it, if it was on other side it wouldn't be as noticeable to me ::)
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I too am going to get the hideous rust patch on my wheel arch done. luckily its only one and i'm going to try and keep on top of it but this time i'm going to try a guy my mate is mates with and will do me a mates rates price. will let you know what results I get in the summer :y