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Title: Serious advice please
Post by: Elite Pete on 26 April 2013, 12:04:33
I've been unemployed for quite a while and even though i've had some quite good jobs over the years i'm finding it difficult to get a job.

Anyway, yesterday I was offered a temporary job start Monday which is 2 miles down the road and it's a minimum 2 months work, dead laidback and job and jack with full pay. Today i've had a phone call asking me to go for an interview for another temporary job which is a minimum of 6 months work, similiar wage but 11 miles away and 8am til 4 pm Monday to Friday.

Would you risk upsetting a new boss with a request for a morning off to go for an interview?

I think I know already what i'm going to do but just thought i'd get some advice.

TIA :y
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 April 2013, 12:07:36
you dont owe anything for your new boss.. he takes your work/time and and pays the money..
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: Entwood on 26 April 2013, 12:08:50
I would be upfront and tell the guy what and why... he might accept your honesty and extend your job ???
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: Elite Pete on 26 April 2013, 12:25:00
I would be upfront and tell the guy what and why... he might accept your honesty and extend your job ???

He did mention in the interview Nige, that alot of people advertise the positions as temporary these days so it's easier to get rid of the person if they're not suitable.
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: Jimbob on 26 April 2013, 12:25:14
With the extra little knowledge gleaned over that rather nice breakfast :)

I stick with the 1st one, think it has better prospects and as I said, that 2 months is an easy 'break off' for anyone they dont but have no reason to sack, rather than an actual 2 month job.  That job is yours, youve got it, this is just an interview, with god knows how many applicants, and I think the risk of telling your new boss you dont really want the job is greater than the possibility of an extra few months at the other.

A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.  Take the 1st, and forget about the 2nd.
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: The Red Baron on 26 April 2013, 12:31:22
As jim says pete.  :y
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 April 2013, 12:36:48
The most important thing is ......which job is going to be of most interest to you!
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: Seth on 26 April 2013, 12:37:16
Personally Pete ... Jimbob's thoughts echo mine.

Very best of luck ... whichever option you choose! ;)
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: Elite Pete on 26 April 2013, 12:41:23
The most important thing is ......which job is going to be of most interest to you!

I'm not bothered about that Mark, just need something, well anything really so long as i'm not wiping backsides or cleaning toilets :(
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: Elite Pete on 26 April 2013, 12:44:15
Jimbob was with me when the call for the interview came through, funny thing is I put on facebook last night that I hope jobs aren't like buses, turns out they are ;D
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: zirk on 26 April 2013, 12:45:01
From my point of view theres only one person that going to look after youself and thats you Pete, I would say go for the second interview and maybe not mention it to your current Boss, yep I know your going to have to come up with a crappy excusebut Im sure that wont be the first time.

Given the way Jobs and Job propects are at the moment, the only advice I can give is to try and do something thats partly enjoyable or rewarding rather than just having to work your nuts off to pay the bills.

End of the day only you can decide whats best and let your concious by your guide but a least going for the second interview gives another potential option up up your sleeve.

All the best with it all Pete,  ;)
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: tunnie on 26 April 2013, 12:46:02
Depends what your needs are? The first sounds like its guaranteed, but the second is only a possibility? 

Can you squeeze the interview in during lunch? Or First thing at 8AM then head to first job afterwards?
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 April 2013, 12:56:48
I would tell the second company that you can't make it during office hours, and you're now working, and could you meet them outside hours?

That way, you're not closing the door on them, you're showing that you're committed to the job you're doing now (which is one you've actually been offered, after all). If they are keen enough they'll talk to you outside office hours, even if it's just a phone interview at first.

Finding something else will be easier from a position of being in work, or at least having recently been in work, if the one you've been offered doesn't work out, so don't let go of that, IMHO, unless, as Mark says, one of them really floats your boat more than the other.
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: Elite Pete on 26 April 2013, 12:57:01
From my point of view theres only one person that going to look after youself and thats you Pete, I would say go for the second interview and maybe not mention it to your current Boss, yep I know your going to have to come up with a crappy excusebut Im sure that wont be the first time.

Given the way Jobs and Job propects are at the moment, the only advice I can give is to try and do something thats partly enjoyable or rewarding rather than just having to work your nuts off to pay the bills.

End of the day only you can decide whats best and let your concious by your guide but a least going for the second interview gives another potential option up up your sleeve.

All the best with it all Pete,  ;)

There's no chance of that Chris. I've applied for well over a 100 jobs and apart from the temp job at Royal Mail at Christmas and these two jobs it's the only tug i've had. I'm either too old or i've got a crap CV which i'm just having redone now profesionally
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 April 2013, 13:05:07
From my point of view theres only one person that going to look after youself and thats you Pete, I would say go for the second interview and maybe not mention it to your current Boss, yep I know your going to have to come up with a crappy excusebut Im sure that wont be the first time.

Given the way Jobs and Job propects are at the moment, the only advice I can give is to try and do something thats partly enjoyable or rewarding rather than just having to work your nuts off to pay the bills.

End of the day only you can decide whats best and let your concious by your guide but a least going for the second interview gives another potential option up up your sleeve.

All the best with it all Pete,  ;)

agreed.. no reason to refuse a chance..
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: zirk on 26 April 2013, 13:10:22
I would tell the second company that you can't make it during office hours, and you're now working, and could you meet them outside hours?

That way, you're not closing the door on them, you're showing that you're committed to the job you're doing now (which is one you've actually been offered, after all). If they are keen enough they'll talk to you outside office hours, even if it's just a phone interview at first.

Finding something else will be easier from a position of being in work, or at least having recently been in work, if the one you've been offered doesn't work out, so don't let go of that, IMHO, unless, as Mark says, one of them really floats your boat more than the other.

I was about to add pretty much what Kevins has just said above, go for a early evening interview, also shows them your commitment to your new Job and not wanting to mess them around on your first day also adds some qualification on the interview as to whether there prepared to put them selves out and to want to meet you anyway.
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 April 2013, 13:19:51
Indeed, I would definately be going for the other interview by some means
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 April 2013, 13:46:29
Whichever option you choose, good luck, Pete. :y
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: tigers_gonads on 26 April 2013, 13:55:03
Agree with Kevin on this Pete.

Just be upfront with both of them.
Your current boss may take the lead and offer you full time employment if he knows you are been head hunted and if the potential second boss is keen then he will be quite happy to be flexable over the interview if he thinks you are the man for him  ;)

Good luck whichever way you go  :)
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: 05omegav6 on 26 April 2013, 16:01:18
I would tell the second company that you can't make it during office hours, and you're now working, and could you meet them outside hours?

That way, you're not closing the door on them, you're showing that you're committed to the job you're doing now (which is one you've actually been offered, after all). If they are keen enough they'll talk to you outside office hours, even if it's just a phone interview at first.

Finding something else will be easier from a position of being in work, or at least having recently been in work, if the one you've been offered doesn't work out, so don't let go of that, IMHO, unless, as Mark says, one of them really floats your boat more than the other.

Unfortunately beggars can't be choosers at the moment :-\

What you don't want to do is alienate the first boss/job, just because the second, potential job, might be a better prospect.

If you blow off the first job and don't get the second one where does that leave you :-\

Best of luck though :y
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: pscocoa on 26 April 2013, 16:22:31
agree with Kevin Wood - you are interested but cannot make that particular time
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: bigbadee on 26 April 2013, 16:40:05
lots of different advice, like you ive been out of work for a long time and to be honest have been to so many interviews cant count them  all. I would say that the first job is a sert so don't throw it away second one is at best a maybe. if you can get the second interview in without the first boss finding out whats the harm but in the end its up to you what you do but good luck with it and hope it works out for you (I know how hard it is being out of work it ant just the money)
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: Elite Pete on 26 April 2013, 16:42:02
I can't see them hanging on until 5.30/6.00 until I can get there for an interview but I won't know until I ask I suppose.

Thanks for all the advice everyone :y
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: Elite Pete on 26 April 2013, 16:44:14
lots of different advice, like you ive been out of work for a long time and to be honest have been to so many interviews cant count them  all. I would say that the first job is a sert so don't throw it away second one is at best a maybe. if you can get the second interview in without the first boss finding out whats the harm but in the end its up to you what you do but good luck with it and hope it works out for you (I know how hard it is being out of work it ant just the money)

Thats what i'm worried about. The bloke has been good enough to give me a chance so wouldn't want him saying thats it after 2 months because he's poxed off with me dissapearing on my 3rd day ::)
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: Entwood on 26 April 2013, 16:47:50
I'd go to him and say .."I have a problem .. you've offered me 2 months, I've a chance at a job that will give me 6 months, are you able to help me by giving me time off for the interview .. I'll work the time back at YOUR convenience" ....
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: ronnyd on 26 April 2013, 17:08:53
As the first job is only a temp with, (i assume) , no guarantee,s ,  ;)i think it,s in your interest to at least
find out about the second one. Best of luck on what you decide as well. ;)
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: Del Boy on 26 April 2013, 18:28:57
I'd be slightly dubious as to whether I'd lose the first job, and then not end up with the second anyway. As said ask for an out of hours interview if possible, I also wouldn't mention anything to your current boss to be honest. Best of luck with whatever you decide though, and hope it all works out :y.
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 26 April 2013, 18:54:20
Firstly congrats on getting a job ive been trying for a couple of years now, its still very hard out there and the whole job hunting process had changed so much very much harder for old school people.

echoing really what others have said better off not telling your new employer about it. Trying to arrange an out of hours meeting should not be unuasual,or ask to put the interview to a later date so its not so close tou your start date. But if not you can only tell your employer you have a prevoius comitment you need to sort out and try and get the interview for 1st thing or last thing at night.
the age of being totaly honest has sadly gone , you need to look after number 1.

But at the end of the day whatever you decide worst case senario you have a job and i do belive its easier to get another job when you are already employed besides there is a chance your employment could be extended

all the best with it Pete well done :y
Title: Re: Serious advice please
Post by: cam2502 on 26 April 2013, 19:37:05
Congrats on getting a job  :y, if it was me, I reckon I would take the 2 month job, head down, work hard and hope that they keep you on. As others have said, you have this job, the other is only an interview .
Whatever you decide, all the best  :y :y