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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Spireite on 18 May 2013, 11:40:19
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Does anyone have any photo's and advice on hubcentric wheel spacers?
Found some steel equivalents on ebay, which bolt to the hub, then wheel to spacer, which I think is far better than long bolts.
They supply 15mm and 20mm in the 5 x 110mm fitment.
Not sure by having measured the theoretical extra track width on the rear that it'd look daft or even rub the arches?
Do people space out the fronts too?
Having once bought another hubcentric cheaper type on ebay and them not fitting, due to the hub spigot being quite deep, they didn't sit against the mating face of the disc. The guy I spoke to with the steel variant, said to measure the spigot depth and he could accomodate the depth on the lathe, probably more so on the 20mm type.
Any photo's and advice or experiences would be greatly appreciated. Spacing out is down to personal preference I know, and it's those people I'm aiming at.
Cheers in advance.
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Hi,
The spacers bolted to the hub (and wheels to them) can't be so thin, IIRC the min width is 25 mm for this system, the bolt heads must be "inside" the spacer so you have to use the other ones with longer bolts for 25 mm or less wheel spacing.
The max rear wheel spacers you can fit without touching the arches depends on:
1. Alloys width and offset.
2. Tyre size.
3. Saloon or state.
If you want to fit them in the front axle, the spacers must not have the centering ring. The max width depends also on the alloys and tyre size.
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Presumably this will do very strange things to the geometry :-\ if you try to counter this with different offsets, then what is the point :-\
Push the front wheels much past an offset of ET38 and they will definitely rub...
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Fitting spacers will have the same effect as reducing your wheels offset. You don't fit spacers and then new alloys with higher offset...
8x17 ET35 + 15 mm spacers in my front axle, 50 mm lowered, no problems with the arches.
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steel spacers not suitable for the job.. I used them and they are too heavy..
here you can see the T6 alloy (20 mm thickness)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=103517.30 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=103517.30)
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Wheels are standard miniface MV6 saloon are 7.5 x 17 with standard offset (can't remember now what offset is). Standard ride height etc etc.
Tyres are 245/45/17 all round continental sport contact 3's.
Steels were around £55 for 20mm spacers each side.
H&R/Eibach are around the £100 mark for 20mm.
Lot of money to find out they look stupid!
Many people just space out rear from what I've read.
I'd buy hubcentrics to bolt to hub, then bolt wheels to spacers.
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Wheels are standard miniface MV6 saloon are 7.5 x 17 with standard offset (can't remember now what offset is). Standard ride height etc etc.
Tyres are 245/45/17 all round continental sport contact 3's.
Steels were around £55 for 20mm spacers each side.
H&R/Eibach are around the £100 mark for 20mm.
Lot of money to find out they look stupid!
Many people just space out rear from what I've read.
I'd buy hubcentrics to bolt to hub, then bolt wheels to spacers.
spirelite my tyre sizes were 225/45/17 .. I'm not sure 245 tyre size wont touch on full lock :-\
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beware??? wheel bearings
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Wheels are standard miniface MV6 saloon are 7.5 x 17 with standard offset (can't remember now what offset is). Standard ride height etc etc. Pre/mini F/L MV6 wheels (Irmscher, that is off set is 33)
Tyres are 245/45/17 all round continental sport contact 3's. 245 ok on back, I wouldn't go wider than 235 on the front, especially if lowered
Steels were around £55 for 20mm spacers each side.
H&R/Eibach are around the £100 mark for 20mm.
Lot of money to find out they look stupid!
Many people just space out rear from what I've read. Yup, much easier and less of a worry!
I'd buy hubcentrics to bolt to hub, then bolt wheels to spacers.
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Car is standard ride height, no troubles experienced whatsoever so far.
Might not bother now spacing rear.
I'm in 2 minds.
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Car is standard ride height, no troubles experienced whatsoever so far.
Might not bother now spacing rear.
I'm in 2 minds.
some tyres are wider than the so called "same size" like latest eagle f1 with rim protection.. I'm not sure for conti but I predict even 235 with spacers will be a near miss if it doesnt rub.. imo dont purchase anything before any actual test :-\
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I never considered spacing out the front end.
Lot of money to later decide it didn't look right, or caused problems later on.
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245/45/17s are the wrong size completely :-\
Standard for those wheels is 235/45/17 :y no wonder they look wrong on the car :-\
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Here we go!
205/65/15
225/55/17
Rolling radius's almost identical
235/45/17 out by a small margin, more than comparing the above 2 tyres.
245/45/17 are almost identical rolling radius again as the top 2 original spec tyres.
Go have a look at the tyre rolling radius comparisons for 205, 225 and 245, also dropping 10% wall thickness each time. 245 is maximum allowable on a 7.5j rim and thats backed up by continental uk.
Oh and yes the extra 10mm hits you like a brick wall when you look at them, not!
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Here we go!
205/65/15
225/55/17
Rolling radius's almost identical
235/45/17 out by a small margin, more than comparing the above 2 tyres.
245/45/17 are almost identical rolling radius again as the top 2 original spec tyres.
Go have a look at the tyre rolling radius comparisons for 205, 225 and 245, also dropping 10% wall thickness each time. 245 is maximum allowable on a 7.5j rim and thats backed up by continental uk.
Oh and yes the extra 10mm hits you like a brick wall when you look at them, not!
I used 225/45/17 :-\ 225/55/17 is huge!
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I was simply pointing out that the tyres you have on those factory fitted wheels are a completely different size to the tyres it left the factory with ::)
Visually, different tyre sizes are something that make the car look 'odd' without knowing exactly why.
Obviously Continental must know better as they own GM ;D
Actually what do I care, it's not my car :-X
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Well done al, thanks for pointing that out, I guess you'd of noticed the obvious increase in size sat in a jam in the taxi like? Its got to be better than top trumps or I spy.
Should of been 225/55/16, sorry cem, must be big fingers on my fone.
I just thought I'd point that out, lol.
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Taxiìiiiiiiii
I'll get my coat
Well done al, thanks for pointing that out, I guess you'd of noticed the obvious increase in size sat in a jam in the taxi like? Its got to be better than top trumps or I spy.
Should of been 225/55/16, sorry cem, must be big fingers on my fone.
I just thought I'd point that out, lol.
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