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Title: Smoking in Hospital
Post by: Vamps on 29 June 2013, 22:12:15
I couldn't help notice that James Cook hospital has little 'garden' + other areas where patients and some visitors go for a smoke, these area's are all surrounded by signs that say 'Strictly no Smoking' .......... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Smoking in Hospital
Post by: PhilRich on 29 June 2013, 22:42:07
I couldn't help notice that James Cook hospital has little 'garden' + other areas where patients and some visitors go for a smoke, these area's are all surrounded by signs that say 'Strictly no Smoking' .......... ::) ::) ::)




As have all other Hospitals in the UK Mike! >:(
Maybe not all have 'gardens', it is usually a modern Bus Shelter type contraption provided at great cost in several areas of the Hospital Grounds! It should be banned completely within the Hospital Boundaries (just like all the signs say it is!!)
I had to walk through clouds of cig smoke to get into the Oncology Wing at James Cook & most of the culprits were Cancer Patients dragging their Chemotherapy drips around on wheeled stands for heavens sake! >:(
I am becoming a right Nowty Old Git, does it show ::) ;D
Title: Re: Smoking in Hospital
Post by: Vamps on 29 June 2013, 23:02:39
I couldn't help notice that James Cook hospital has little 'garden' + other areas where patients and some visitors go for a smoke, these area's are all surrounded by signs that say 'Strictly no Smoking' .......... ::) ::) ::)




As have all other Hospitals in the UK Mike! >:(
Maybe not all have 'gardens', it is usually a modern Bus Shelter type contraption provided at great cost in several areas of the Hospital Grounds! It should be banned completely within the Hospital Boundaries (just like all the signs say it is!!)
I had to walk through clouds of cig smoke to get into the Oncology Wing at James Cook & most of the culprits were Cancer Patients dragging their Chemotherapy drips around on wheeled stands for heavens sake! >:(
I am becoming a right Nowty Old Git, does it show ::) ;D

Why the No Smoking signs then? or is this so that the hospital can be seen to be saying the right thing........... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Smoking in Hospital
Post by: PhilRich on 29 June 2013, 23:06:01
I couldn't help notice that James Cook hospital has little 'garden' + other areas where patients and some visitors go for a smoke, these area's are all surrounded by signs that say 'Strictly no Smoking' .......... ::) ::) ::)




As have all other Hospitals in the UK Mike! >:(
Maybe not all have 'gardens', it is usually a modern Bus Shelter type contraption provided at great cost in several areas of the Hospital Grounds! It should be banned completely within the Hospital Boundaries (just like all the signs say it is!!)
I had to walk through clouds of cig smoke to get into the Oncology Wing at James Cook & most of the culprits were Cancer Patients dragging their Chemotherapy drips around on wheeled stands for heavens sake! >:(
I am becoming a right Nowty Old Git, does it show ::) ;D

Why the No Smoking signs then? or is this so that the hospital can be seen to be saying the right thing........... ::) ::)







 :y ;D
Title: Re: Smoking in Hospital
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 30 June 2013, 08:07:15
I couldn't help notice that James Cook hospital has little 'garden' + other areas where patients and some visitors go for a smoke, these area's are all surrounded by signs that say 'Strictly no Smoking' .......... ::) ::) ::)




As have all other Hospitals in the UK Mike! >:(
Maybe not all have 'gardens', it is usually a modern Bus Shelter type contraption provided at great cost in several areas of the Hospital Grounds! It should be banned completely within the Hospital Boundaries (just like all the signs say it is!!)
I had to walk through clouds of cig smoke to get into the Oncology Wing at James Cook & most of the culprits were Cancer Patients dragging their Chemotherapy drips around on wheeled stands for heavens sake! >:(
I am becoming a right Nowty Old Git, does it show ::) ;D
yes ,no one noticed ;D ;D
Title: Re: Smoking in Hospital
Post by: symes on 30 June 2013, 11:28:22
well you should see around the back of hospitals--the amount of doctors/nurses smoking :o
Title: Re: Smoking in Hospital
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 30 June 2013, 12:04:57
They tried to totally ban smoking at my local hospital. All that happened was it pushed  the smokers onto a pavement beside a busy main road. Then H&S stepped in and said 'oi thats not safe', so the hospital relented and now smoking is allowed again in designated areas.  ::)
Title: Re: Smoking in Hospital
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 June 2013, 13:27:30
In 1978 we were allowed to smoke in the bed itself.

How times change.
Title: Re: Smoking in Hospital
Post by: omega3000 on 30 June 2013, 13:44:52
In 1978 we were allowed to smoke in the bed itself.

How times change.

Not on the operating table i hope  ;D
Title: Re: Smoking in Hospital
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 June 2013, 15:09:33
In 1978 we were allowed to smoke in the bed itself.

How times change.

Not on the operating table i hope  ;D


Nope. If I recall correctly I had to stub it out before 'getting the needle'...... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Smoking in Hospital
Post by: AndyRoid on 30 June 2013, 17:03:41
I had to walk through clouds of cig smoke to get into the Oncology Wing at James Cook & most of the culprits were Cancer Patients dragging their Chemotherapy drips around on wheeled stands for heavens sake! >:(
There is no direct evidence (scientific or otherwise) to suggest that smoking will cause cancer.
Title: Re: Smoking in Hospital
Post by: Omegatoy on 30 June 2013, 19:40:06
I had to walk through clouds of cig smoke to get into the Oncology Wing at James Cook & most of the culprits were Cancer Patients dragging their Chemotherapy drips around on wheeled stands for heavens sake! >:(
There is no direct evidence (scientific or otherwise) to suggest that smoking will cause cancer.

Agreed,Ze,s heart surgeon asked her if she smoked when told yes he arranged a scan,all clear there told her to keep smoking if it helped calm her, he then brought out his packet and told us 90 percent of surgeons do smoke!! :y
Title: Re: Smoking in Hospital
Post by: tunnie on 30 June 2013, 19:56:50
MrsT's Granparents are chain smokers, 40 a day easy!

Not far off 100 years old  :o
Title: Re: Smoking in Hospital
Post by: symes on 30 June 2013, 20:02:10
my mum gave up in 1950's yet she passed with cancer a month ago :'( my dad never smoked-it got him in 1974--so yes you dont need to smoke to get cancer--in fact we all have it--just needs something to fire it up :-\
Title: Re: Smoking in Hospital
Post by: Rods2 on 30 June 2013, 21:20:40
my mum gave up in 1950's yet she passed with cancer a month ago :'( my dad never smoked-it got him in 1974--so yes you dont need to smoke to get cancer--in fact we all have it--just needs something to fire it up :-\

Most people think it is the tar in tobacco that causes cancer, this is not so. It is caused by the daughter products from radon gas, which end up on the surface of the leaves when the tobacco is growing. These radioactive particles collect in certain areas of the lungs and may cause cell mutations which may lead to cancer. The tobacco companies know this and could improve safety, with a special leaf wash as part of the tobacco processing, but it is cheaper not to.

So the danger depends upon where the crop is grown and how much radon gas is in rocks / soil.

The reason we are more likely to get cancer with age is due to our immune systems getting weaker. This affects some people more than others. We have mutating cells and are also under constant attack from viruses and bacteria, which our immune systems keep under control.
Title: Re: Smoking in Hospital
Post by: Vamps on 30 June 2013, 21:33:58
my mum gave up in 1950's yet she passed with cancer a month ago :'( my dad never smoked-it got him in 1974--so yes you dont need to smoke to get cancer--in fact we all have it--just needs something to fire it up :-\

Most people think it is the tar in tobacco that causes cancer, this is not so. It is caused by the daughter products from radon gas, which end up on the surface of the leaves when the tobacco is growing. These radioactive particles collect in certain areas of the lungs and may cause cell mutations which may lead to cancer. The tobacco companies know this and could improve safety, with a special leaf wash as part of the tobacco processing, but it is cheaper not to.

So the danger depends upon where the crop is grown and how much radon gas is in rocks / soil.

The reason we are more likely to get cancer with age is due to our immune systems getting weaker. This affects some people more than others. We have mutating cells and are also under constant attack from viruses and bacteria, which our immune systems keep under control.



Then I suggest people do not smoke Benson and Hedges then, cos it got me good and proper...... :'( :'(
Title: Re: Smoking in Hospital
Post by: PhilRich on 30 June 2013, 22:29:25
I don't think anyone has stated that smoking definately causes cancer, but it sure as hell doesn't cure it either! ::)