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Title: When is a coup, not a coup?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 July 2013, 10:47:35
When US law states that it is illegal for the US Government to provide assistance to a foreign government who have achieved power, by deposing an elected government by force, military coup d'etat or decree.  :)

So you won't hear O'Bummer or anyone from Washington (or London, Paris or Berlin for that matter) describing events in Egypt as a military coup!  ::)

The US aid budget to Egypt is $1.55 billion a year, much of which funds the Egyptian military, who in turn procure much of their equipment from US companies.  A mutually beneficial arrangement.  ;)

You can see how the US might have got the jitters about the direction that Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood government were taking and indeed since the coup new government has taken power the Gaza border has been closed.  So who's calling the shots in Egypt?  ???
Title: Re: When is a coup, not a coup?
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 07 July 2013, 11:45:49
This sort of thing goes on everywhere all the time - although still not acceptable

Just as a thought  ??? how did "someone" manage to get all those people to start demonstrating about the changes in the constitution and law's to a more muslim type state. It could be said that they did react to this no matter their agenda  :-\
Title: Re: When is a coup, not a coup?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 07 July 2013, 12:58:11
I just wish a "coup" had taken place after 1933 in Nazi Germany.  A democratically elected leader in a democratic state who turned to his true calling...............

So when viewing other movements to over throw democratically elected leaders..........just consider the deeper implications......... ;) ;)
Title: Re: When is a coup, not a coup?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 07 July 2013, 14:40:10
This sort of thing goes on everywhere all the time - although still not acceptable

Just as a thought  ??? how did "someone" manage to get all those people to start demonstrating about the changes in the constitution and law's to a more muslim type state. It could be said that they did react to this no matter their agenda  :-\
Perhaps having looked over the fence last time, the grass wasn't actually that green after all :-\ I suspect that even some of the more devout Muslims are rational enough to see what long term effects Morsis' policies would have on their life in Egypt and the potential impact on tourism, which must be one of, if not the largest, industry in Egypt :-\
Title: Re: When is a coup, not a coup?
Post by: Hannah Judes Dad on 07 July 2013, 15:08:07
A coup is not a coup when all the chickens have left  ::)
Title: Re: When is a coup, not a coup?
Post by: Rods2 on 07 July 2013, 18:05:34
I think like Turkey, many people realised they had made a mistake with whom they elected. The Muslim Brotherhood were by far the best organised, compared to the opposition parties when they had their elections and they made many promises they have not kept.

I think Egypt and Turkey both show that in countries where they are quite liberal they are not prepared to accept all aspects of the country and how they live being dominated by religious rules. The current problems in the Middle East and Africa are not only tribal but also a battle between the liberals and the radicals. This has much further to run and I expect the bloodshed to continue ad-infinitum. I think Western countries should steer well clear and just let them get on with it. Generally Western interference in these volatile countries and regions just makes things worse.
Title: Re: When is a coup, not a coup?
Post by: MR MISTER on 07 July 2013, 18:37:06
I think like Turkey, many people realised they had made a mistake with whom they elected. The Muslim Brotherhood were by far the best organised, compared to the opposition parties when they had their elections and they made many promises they have not kept.

I think Egypt and Turkey both show that in countries where they are quite liberal they are not prepared to accept all aspects of the country and how they live being dominated by religious rules. The current problems in the Middle East and Africa are not only tribal but also a battle between the liberals and the radicals. This has much further to run and I expect the bloodshed to continue ad-infinitum. I think Western countries should steer well clear and just let them get on with it. Generally Western interference in these volatile countries and regions just makes things worse.
With a bit of luck, there'll be nothing left at the end of it. I am pig sick of the news consisting of nothing but conflicts in Africa/The East or Muslims doing dirty deeds over here.