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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: omega3000 on 12 July 2013, 00:05:15
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Went into local motor factors and asked for a price for a HBV .. Reply was "whats that then" ::) then he said is it inside the car ;D I said well i wish it was as it would be bloody easier to get to ::) He said no , the correct name is Heater Valve . Oh well he says we dont stock them >:(
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when you ganna scrap that thing and get a proper car ;D ;D ;D
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when you ganna scrap that thing and get a proper car ;D ;D ;D
And what would that be??
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One that never ever wants work doing :y
like ralfs
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oh a Dinky toy then--gotcha :y :y
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One that never ever wants work doing :y like ralfs
I think even if you spend a few thousand on a car it will eventually need something replacing on it , wear and tare items .. usually the ball joints and bushes on every car :( Exhausts , tyres ect ... It can soon add up especially when it all needs doing at once >:( >:(
Ahh well back to the shopping list (http://www.dodgeboard.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/banghead.gif)
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The answer is easy ::)
Either buy nearly new low milage and get rid before 80k, or buy the highest mileage car you can find with a years ticket on it, getting shot when it needs anything more than fuel and servicing :y
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Rang them again today and asked for a torque stabilizer arm ... No we dont stock them and we cant get you one ::)
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Better of asking for some sky hooks then ;D ;D
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Better of asking for some sky hooks then ;D ;D
Probably don't sell them either ;D ;D
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Getting it all off egay , the shops cant compete with egay prices including free delivery for the same item .. some are the same price but then they add vat and it takes it over price :( Sorry but local parts places just cant compete and ive rang loads ...
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Getting it all off egay , the shops cant compete with egay prices including free delivery for the same item .. some are the same price but then they add vat and it takes it over price :( Sorry but local parts places just cant compete and ive rang loads ...
Beware of pattern parts failing sooner than OE though.
Given the faffing about changing a HBV I'd go OE every time ................ I know it's not difficult to change one, but I'd reckon it'd be cheaper & easier in the long run changing an OE valve at half the interval of a pattern valve ;)
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Getting it all off egay , the shops cant compete with egay prices including free delivery for the same item .. some are the same price but then they add vat and it takes it over price :( Sorry but local parts places just cant compete and ive rang loads ...
Beware of pattern parts failing sooner than OE though.
Given the faffing about changing a HBV I'd go OE every time ................ I know it's not difficult to change one, but I'd reckon it'd be cheaper & easier in the long run changing an OE valve at half the interval of a pattern valve ;)
Its a lot easier to get to than the omega andy ;) The bits ill be getting will be for the head gasket change once i fathom out what the problem is :-\ 90% sure its valve stem seals so if it is the head has to come off anyway ;)
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Why, if you didn't want an omega due to cost and faults, did you go and buy a similar and reputably less reliable car, with similar parts to the one just sold?
Remember, Oof is in the fortunate poition only concentrate on one model of one manufacturers range of cars. Not all cars have a heater by pass valve. So a factors is even less likely to know (Andyc aside) than a Vx dealer parts man who. They often ask the same question when hearing the letters hbv, ime.
What are the odds of getting a genuine part from a factors though, would you say?
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Remember, Oof is in the fortunate position only concentrate on one model of one manufacturers range of cars. Not all cars have a heater by pass valve. So a factors is even less likely to know (Andyc aside) than a Vx dealer parts man who. They often ask the same question when hearing the letters hbv, ime.
Or, it leads to reactions to simple questions that are pure dogma. Just mention HBV, oil, plugs or other simple service stuff, and it's like Captain Flint has got on the internet("pieces of genuine GM plugs"). The only reason I replaced the £9 HBV on my car with a genuine one was that I managed to snap the vacuum port off the top of it. That would have been even more annoying if I'd spent 4 times as much on it. Oh, and by then I had a spare genuine one on my hotrod engine that won't be needed.
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Its a lot easier to get to than the omega andy ;) ....
Forgot you weren't in an Omega ..... ;D ;D
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Why, if you didn't want an omega due to cost and faults, did you go and buy a similar and reputably less reliable car, with similar parts to the one just sold?
Remember, Oof is in the fortunate poition only concentrate on one model of one manufacturers range of cars. Not all cars have a heater by pass valve. So a factors is even less likely to know (Andyc aside) than a Vx dealer parts man who. They often ask the same question when hearing the letters hbv, ime.
What are the odds of getting a genuine part from a factors though, would you say?
Because the 3.0 omega was falling to bits remember ;D Rot in the front chassis rails and rear arches plus the running costs and lifters that needed replaced and rear suspension knackered . I had no idea that valve stem seals were an issue on some vectra B's , i had 2 before and never had any issues with that before . If money wasnt so tight i would have another omega but until then ill make do with what i have for now and fix what needs doing bit by bit .
I would have thought any car parts shop would know what a heater valve was and could get one , seems not apart from online stores where you can get anything you need .
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Remember, Oof is in the fortunate position only concentrate on one model of one manufacturers range of cars. Not all cars have a heater by pass valve. So a factors is even less likely to know (Andyc aside) than a Vx dealer parts man who. They often ask the same question when hearing the letters hbv, ime.
Or, it leads to reactions to simple questions that are pure dogma. Just mention HBV, oil, plugs or other simple service stuff, and it's like Captain Flint has got on the internet("pieces of genuine GM plugs"). The only reason I replaced the £9 HBV on my car with a genuine one was that I managed to snap the vacuum port off the top of it. That would have been much harder to do if I'd spent 4 times as much on it. Oh, and by then I had a spare genuine one on my hotrod engine that won't be needed.
Fixed ;)
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Why, if you didn't want an omega due to cost and faults, did you go and buy a similar and reputably less reliable car, with similar parts to the one just sold?
Remember, Oof is in the fortunate poition only concentrate on one model of one manufacturers range of cars. Not all cars have a heater by pass valve. So a factors is even less likely to know (Andyc aside) than a Vx dealer parts man who. They often ask the same question when hearing the letters hbv, ime.
What are the odds of getting a genuine part from a factors though, would you say?
Because the 3.0 omega was falling to bits remember ;D Rot in the front chassis rails and rear arches plus the running costs and lifters that needed replaced and rear suspension knackered . I had no idea that valve stem seals were an issue on some vectra B's , i had 2 before and never had any issues with that before . If money wasnt so tight i would have another omega but until then ill make do with what i have for now and fix what needs doing bit by bit .
I would have thought any car parts shop would know what a heater valve was and could get one , seems not apart from online stores where you can get anything you need .
They won't get self levelling shocks either etc etc. pattern hbv's are no better than pattern sensors, going by what i've seen on here. After all the oe ones aren't great, how good can a copy be? (A hypothetical question that, before Nick pipes up ;D )
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Must say I'm getting that ground hog feeling from another thread in this section. ::)
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Remember, Oof is in the fortunate position only concentrate on one model of one manufacturers range of cars. Not all cars have a heater by pass valve. So a factors is even less likely to know (Andyc aside) than a Vx dealer parts man who. They often ask the same question when hearing the letters hbv, ime.
Or, it leads to reactions to simple questions that are pure dogma. Just mention HBV, oil, plugs or other simple service stuff, and it's like Captain Flint has got on the internet("pieces of genuine GM plugs"). The only reason I replaced the £9 HBV on my car with a genuine one was that I managed to snap the vacuum port off the top of it. That would have been [color=red]much harder to do[/color][/font] if I'd spent 4 times as much on it. Oh, and by then I had a spare genuine one on my hotrod engine that won't be needed.
Fixed ;)
Oh, really? it's an 8mm thick, hollow plastic stub. Considering that the pattern part is visually identical to both the one I replaced, and the spare that I used, right down to the casting flash it's virtually guaranteed that it came from the same supplier.
As I said; dogma.
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Remember, Oof is in the fortunate position only concentrate on one model of one manufacturers range of cars. Not all cars have a heater by pass valve. So a factors is even less likely to know (Andyc aside) than a Vx dealer parts man who. They often ask the same question when hearing the letters hbv, ime.
Or, it leads to reactions to simple questions that are pure dogma. Just mention HBV, oil, plugs or other simple service stuff, and it's like Captain Flint has got on the internet("pieces of genuine GM plugs"). The only reason I replaced the £9 HBV on my car with a genuine one was that I managed to snap the vacuum port off the top of it. That would have been [color=red]much harder to do[/color][/font] if I'd spent 4 times as much on it. Oh, and by then I had a spare genuine one on my hotrod engine that won't be needed.
Fixed ;)
Oh, really? it's an 8mm thick, hollow plastic stub. Considering that the pattern part is visually identical to both the one I replaced, and the spare that I used, right down to the casting flash it's virtually guaranteed that it came from the same supplier.
As I said; dogma.
8mm thick? :o A perfect match then. Not! ;D
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Must say I'm getting that ground hog feeling from another thread in this section. ::)
arrrrr your missing ralf ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D