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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: doz on 27 July 2013, 19:31:34
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The draw of the Phaeton was to strong :-[ :-[
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Comes home Tuesday. LWB 3.0 diesel with a load of extras on an already loaded car :P
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Nice, well done ;) :y
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Well done, a lovely looking car :y :y :y
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Very nice, another one to the OOF clan.
Looks like Jag dealer? :-\
Guessing this was not cheap!
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Price isn't too horrific :y guessing you went looking for summat else :-\
Good luck with it :y
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Does this mean the Elite is going?
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Yea. It had been part X'd. She's a late 2007 so benefits from the upgrades, so she has the better injectors and improved cam chain tensioners so no rattle on start up. As for price I guess it was a fair amount of money but it wasn't mega amounts. We're not even talking 15k however it was more than I normally spend on cars by a fair few quid. We normally have just one modern car in the house hold but what with the LC, VW Camper and the Omega I was forever always working on cars so the wife beat me up, smacked me bum and sent me to the dealers with only one requirement "no fixer upper". I looked at another one this morning and it was in a bit of a state, 18k more miles and only 1500 quid cheaper. I'm glad I pushed a little harder with the cash as the difference in quality is loads. My one has the air conditioned, massaging seats which are proper mad :D :D
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Be good to see how you get on with it :)
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Does this mean the Elite is going?
Yes. I have to decide if I'm going to try and find the vibration problem or break it. The money is in breaking it. She has 18" Irmy rims, CID and a LSD (which maybe knackered). Shame only done 74k miles and is a nice rot free one with a excellent Stag LPG fitted.
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Nice car, Doz. :y
£15,000 would barely buy you a 'top of the range' Fiesta.
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Very nice indeed :y
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Very nice choice doz 8) :y
Just had a look on eBay they sure are becoming more affordable :o
"03" W12 currently just 3.2k
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-VOLKSWAGEN-PHAETON-W12-5-SEAT-LPG-CONVERTED-GENUINE-LOW-MILES-GREAT-HISTORY-/141022689556?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item20d59b7914
"04" 3.2 V6 just under 4k with lpg
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-Phaeton-3-2-fsi-LPG-2004-in-black-/141024464022?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item20d5b68c96
"03" 3.2 V6 just under 3k
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-Phaeton-3-2-V6-4DR-5-SEAT-AUTO-20-PETROL-AUTOMATIC-2003-/230980987625?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item35c78a2ae9
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Cheapest one I found when looking was 3.2 petrol which was under 3k. That's daft money for such a lot of car.
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2011 W12 is only £34k :o
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Christ, did not know they were that cheap these days :o
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Christ, did not know they were that cheap these days :o
Especially the petrol ones :o
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The Mk1 cars look almost as bland and tired as the first Superbs, dreary colours, non descript wheels, orange wood trim...
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The Mk1 cars look almost as bland and tired as the first Superbs, dreary colours, non descript wheels, orange wood trim...
Much like Omega's then :)
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The Phaeton's are suprisingly similiar to the Flying Spur. They do indeed have the same chassis, but there are lots of cross-over parts, switches, clusters etc.
However, knowing it cost just over £9,000 to replace a Flying Spur gearbox I'd be hesitant about a bargain W12 Phaeton.
I'm not one to be worried about MPG, but the W12 really does drink the fuel. A Supercharged RR will get through the fuel, but I used to get through £20/£35 a day just running around in a Flying Spur.
I suppose a V6 Petrol Phaeton would be the bargain pick of the bunch.
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Nice one. :y
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Good on you mate :y
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Fair play Doz. Lovely car IMO.
Fancy doing a walk round video of all the gadgets..? :)
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Fair play Doz. Lovely car IMO.
Fancy doing a walk round video of all the gadgets..? :)
I'll do one next year once I've worked out everything!!!! Mind you I may to do it as six 1 hour episodes ::) ::)
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The Phaeton's are suprisingly similiar to the Flying Spur. They do indeed have the same chassis, but there are lots of cross-over parts, switches, clusters etc.
However, knowing it cost just over £9,000 to replace a Flying Spur gearbox I'd be hesitant about a bargain W12 Phaeton.
I'm not one to be worried about MPG, but the W12 really does drink the fuel. A Supercharged RR will get through the fuel, but I used to get through £20/£35 a day just running around in a Flying Spur.
I suppose a V6 Petrol Phaeton would be the bargain pick of the bunch.
Lots of parts are marked as Bentley apparently. VW uses a much more traditional gearbox all be it 6 speed auto (X12 gets a 5 speed auto) so I don't think the gearboxes are cross over. Only engine is the W12.
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What's the going rate for Wedding cars these days? Well she is a LWB thought she could earn her keep :D :D
I know "how many left" isn't exactly right about the number of cars but it says there has only been 21 LWB 3.0 tdi's registered and going by the dates mine is the first one. Should I be worried :-\ :-\
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The only differences between swb and lwb are some 8" filler panels, a larger roof skin, larger door skins, longer exhausts/propshaft and a bit more trim :y
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and your be surprised how much difference that makes to the rear leg room
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11 centimeters ::)
Visually the difference is impressive :y at least it will stop the kids from putting their feet on the seat backs ::)
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ooooh :D I'm getting all excited. Just OOF to pick up the new motor. Will give you an update when I get home. I phoned the local VW dealer checking for recalls etc and he was gobsmacked by all the extra on the car. It was first registered to VW UK. We're not sure what for but she may have been a Press car. I also had the thought she may of been a demonstrator but apparently they are registered locally by the dealers. so anyway no recalls outstanding and the service history is to the letter of the law including brake fluid and coolant changes all done on time. Last major service done in March so I've got another 15 months or 18k miles before next one. TBH I never let the oil go that long even if it is longlife. I will look at changing the oil at halfway. I hope you lot still make me feel welcome. I find the VW forums a bit prickly for my liking :y :y
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ooooh :D I'm getting all excited. Just OOF to pick up the new motor. Will give you an update when I get home. I phoned the local VW dealer checking for recalls etc and he was gobsmacked by all the extra on the car. It was first registered to VW UK. We're not sure what for but she may have been a Press car. I also had the thought she may of been a demonstrator but apparently they are registered locally by the dealers. so anyway no recalls outstanding and the service history is to the letter of the law including brake fluid and coolant changes all done on time. Last major service done in March so I've got another 15 months or 18k miles before next one. TBH I never let the oil go that long even if it is longlife. I will look at changing the oil at halfway. I hope you lot still make me feel welcome. I find the VW forums a bit prickly for my liking :y :y
Welcome to the Phaeton and Omega owners forum, Doz........now known as POOF. ;D ;D
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http://forums.vwvortex.com/forumdisplay.php?112 (http://forums.vwvortex.com/forumdisplay.php?112)
Here is the Vortex Phaeton Forum.
There is a thread on there somewhere to which the forum members post hidden features that they have found and which do not appear in hand book.
You will need to be careful which model of phone you want to pair with it. That model will love S60 platform Nokias as it uses Rsap which is not supported by some more modern phones although I think the Galaxy S3 may be ok.
Warrantywise is worth a look to offset risk of major repair bills.
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Hope you've cleared a space in the garage ready for it :y be a shame to leave it in the rain ;D
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Hope you've cleared a space in extended the garage ready for it :y be a shame to leave it in the rain ;D
Fixed that for you. ;)
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Hope you've cleared a space in extended the garage ready for it :y be a shame to leave it in the rain ;D
Fixed that for you. ;)
The Phaeton is HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGEEEE. It dwarfs the Omega. I think they weigh in at about 2300 KG. :o :o :o :o
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if only there was an estate version...... :-[
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if only there was an estate version...... :-[
There is :y
It's called a Passat ::)
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Had 3 Passats. They maybe made by the same company but they are leagues apart. I have yet to find a switch or fitting which has been used on both. The ride home was a real eye opener. The ride, noise levels etc were a real eye opener. I've not been in a modern Bentley or Rolls Royce but I've never experienced anything like it.
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At least it runs on fossil fuel......I so very nearly bought a Nissan Leaf this week :-[
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At least it runs on fossil fuel......I so very nearly bought a Nissan Leaf this week :-[
Guffer! Behave yourself. Posting filth like that on a public forum.
Be ashamed. Be vary ashamed. ;D
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Right everybody round Guffer's place to subject him to "Wet Haddock Knacker Smashing :P"
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At least it runs on fossil fuel......I so very nearly bought a Nissan Leaf this week :-[
Guffer! Behave yourself. Posting filth like that on a public forum.
Be ashamed. Be vary ashamed. ;D
If I did a lot of town work with no long runs I would think about one,although Vauxhall Ampera seems to give best of both worlds...............at a price :-X
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I was actually surprised at how good it was. 0-60 6.9 secs would give most cars a run for it's money :o
The thing that turned me off was the inability to carry my triathlon bike on the back. There's no way you can fit a bike carrier to it.
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At least it runs on fossil fuel......I so very nearly bought a Nissan Leaf this week :-[
I saw a Vauxhall Ampera in a car park last week so I thought I'd check out how much they cost.. £37,000! And they get 50 miles on battery and then a whole 310 miles to a 35L tank..
Sooo about the same fuel economy as Amy's 995cc Micra from 2001? Somehow doesn't seem worth £37k (or £43k by the time I'd put the options on) ;D
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I was being facetious about the Passat ;D I wouldn't buy one if they were buy one get one free and only cost 50p ::)
The Phaeton is a really impressive package, but for myself at least, something doesn't quite add up :-\ I suspect the catch is an electromechanical one... but aesthetically it really irritates me that the front door interior handles don't match (on any VW group car), and the steering wheel boss looks boxy. Both stupid things, but I could never buy a car that irked me whenever I'm sitting in it ::)
That said I think it is a much better prospect than the rather more pretencious Audi A8 :y and therein lies the quandry...
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At least it runs on fossil fuel......I so very nearly bought a Nissan Leaf this week :-[
Don't kid yourself.. They run on (mostly) fossil fuels too. They've just moved the exhaust pipe out of sight. ;)
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At least it runs on fossil fuel......I so very nearly bought a Nissan Leaf this week :-[
Don't kid yourself.. They run on (mostly) fossil fuels too. They've just moved the exhaust pipe out of sight. ;)
Unless you live near Drax ::)
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At least it runs on fossil fuel......I so very nearly bought a Nissan Leaf this week :-[
Don't kid yourself.. They run on (mostly) fossil fuels too. They've just moved the exhaust pipe out of sight. ;)
Unless you live near Drax ::)
And.. considering what a Li-Ion battery can do to a Dell Laptop, plonking my @rse down on half a tonne of Datsun battery for my morning commute isn't a thought that fills me with joy. :o
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At least it runs on fossil fuel......I so very nearly bought a Nissan Leaf this week :-[
I saw a Vauxhall Ampera in a car park last week so I thought I'd check out how much they cost.. £37,000! And they get 50 miles on battery and then a whole 310 miles to a 35L tank..
Sooo about the same fuel economy as Amy's 995cc Micra from 2001? Somehow doesn't seem worth £37k (or £43k by the time I'd put the options on) ;D
The Leaf I like because they have increased the range, on average 90 miles per full charge in real life according to reports I have read.
It's the running costs that entice me the most. about £300-400 a year compared to £1300 for the Focus and £2500 for the jag plus no RFL and no Congestion Charge.
Most of my journeys are less than 30 miles, I could keep the jag (finish the conversion to LPG) for the times I have to transport the tri bike and get the Leaf which would be used most of the time.
Decisions :-\
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At least it runs on fossil fuel......I so very nearly bought a Nissan Leaf this week :-[
I saw a Vauxhall Ampera in a car park last week so I thought I'd check out how much they cost.. £37,000! And they get 50 miles on battery and then a whole 310 miles to a 35L tank..
Sooo about the same fuel economy as Amy's 995cc Micra from 2001? Somehow doesn't seem worth £37k (or £43k by the time I'd put the options on) ;D
The Leaf I like because they have increased the range, on average 90 miles per full charge in real life according to reports I have read.
It's the running costs that entice me the most. about £300-400 a year compared to £1300 for the Focus and £2500 for the jag plus no RFL and no Congestion Charge.
Most of my journeys are less than 30 miles, I could keep the jag (finish the conversion to LPG) for the times I have to transport the tri bike and get the Leaf which would be used most of the time.
Decisions :-\
Renault Florence(I think its called that) is cheaper than the leaf and uses similar drive train,saw a test on it somewhere and they reckon its one of the best :y
Sorry Doz,we've wandered off topic a touch :-[
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At least it runs on fossil fuel......I so very nearly bought a Nissan Leaf this week :-[
Don't kid yourself.. They run on (mostly) fossil fuels too. They've just moved the exhaust pipe out of sight. ;)
Unless you live near Drax ::)
And.. considering what a Li-Ion battery can do to a Dell Laptop, plonking my @rse down on half a tonne of Datsun battery for my morning commute isn't a thought that fills me with joy. :o
I am sure there will be some on here who would welcome the chance to straddle some humming, vibrating, electrical device ::)
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Renault Florence(I think its called that) is cheaper than the leaf and uses similar drive train,saw a test on it somewhere and they reckon its one of the best :y
Sorry Doz,we've wandered off topic a touch :-[
I will never buy a French car ever again.
Yes, sorry Doz :-[
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I was being facetious about the Passat ;D I wouldn't buy one if they were buy one get one free and only cost 50p ::)
The Phaeton is a really impressive package, but for myself at least, something doesn't quite add up :-\ I suspect the catch is an electromechanical one... but aesthetically it really irritates me that the front door interior handles don't match (on any VW group car), and the steering wheel boss looks boxy. Both stupid things, but I could never buy a car that irked me whenever I'm sitting in it ::)
That said I think it is a much better prospect than the rather more pretencious Audi A8 :y and therein lies the quandry...
Never noticed or affected by either - must check interior door handles
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Had 3 Passats. They maybe made by the same company but they are leagues apart. I have yet to find a switch or fitting which has been used on both. The ride home was a real eye opener. The ride, noise levels etc were a real eye opener. I've not been in a modern Bentley or Rolls Royce but I've never experienced anything like it.
Passengers always comment how quiet it is - VW have done something with the windows - there was a myth going around about triple glazing but it is not triple glazed on checking
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Might be double glazed :-\ windows will be about 8-9mm thick... pretty obvious when open, as likely, alot of time/money spent sealing the door shuts properly :y
Just to add, double glazing doesn't do the window motors any favours ::)
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I suspect the window motors would have been upgraded to cope ;)
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I suspect the window motors would have been upgraded to cope ;)
One can only hope :y either Polo motors are over engineered, or a potential timebomb :-\
Small consolation for owners of the first double glazed car...
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/37431-w140-rear-left-window-problem.html (http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/37431-w140-rear-left-window-problem.html)
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Got a three hour jolly tonight down to Cornwall, will let you know how it performs.
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Renault Florence(I think its called that) is cheaper than the leaf and uses similar drive train,saw a test on it somewhere and they reckon its one of the best :y
Sorry Doz,we've wandered off topic a touch :-[
I will never buy a French car ever again.
Yes, sorry Doz :-[
Leaf is a Nissan/Renault collaboration :-\
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Renault Florence(I think its called that) is cheaper than the leaf and uses similar drive train,saw a test on it somewhere and they reckon its one of the best :y
Sorry Doz,we've wandered off topic a touch :-[
I will never buy a French car ever again.
Yes, sorry Doz :-[
Not a 106 anyway ::) ;D ;D >:(
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Renault Florence(I think its called that) is cheaper than the leaf and uses similar drive train,saw a test on it somewhere and they reckon its one of the best :y
Sorry Doz,we've wandered off topic a touch :-[
I will never buy a French car ever again.
Yes, sorry Doz :-[
Not a 106 anyway ::) ;D ;D >:(
For me it was a 405 diesel (made from swiss cheese) and constantly breaking >:(
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Renault Florence(I think its called that) is cheaper than the leaf and uses similar drive train,saw a test on it somewhere and they reckon its one of the best :y
Sorry Doz,we've wandered off topic a touch :-[
I will never buy a French car ever again.
Yes, sorry Doz :-[
Leaf is a Nissan/Renault collaboration :-\
Don't Renault have a 51% controlling stake in Nissan these days, in fact?
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So, that's Renault who can't make a vehicle electrical system where the wires don't chafe on something and short out, coupled with a battery that'll cause the China Syndrome if the wires chafe on something and short out. What could possibly go wrong? ;D
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Well... Now that you mention it :-X
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Well the car performed great. I did an awful lot of running around the lanes while I was down in Cornwall and I got 33 MPG (by calculations) to a tank/ On the run home Saturday evening I had a good run back to Southampton and sticking to the speed limits I managed 38 MPG. As my run to work is normally done at around the 40-60 range I hope to get a tank average of 40 MPG. Car is amazing and a worthy successor to my Omega being extremely comfortable. Being able to change suspension setting on the go to suit your mood is good fun. So I'm a very happy bunny.
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Good stuff, be good to know how you get on with running costs :y
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I fear they will be higher than the Omega. Tyres,brake pads etc I've already found some costings and they are higher. I do have the 19" wheels fitted so if you found one with the smaller rims then price will be lower. Also brake pad price seems to very greatly. With EBC's coming in with 150 for fronts and 60 for rears.Disc prices seem much more reasonable.
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I went for the 18 inch wheels as you can get a full size spare in the boot. I paid £320 for a pair of new tyres on front and no other bills other than services - it is coming up to 4 years old and had it from new.
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Is that you Phil?? :D
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Is that you Phil?? :D
yes