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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Muroman on 28 July 2013, 11:33:51

Title: X30XE -95 EGR blocking
Post by: Muroman on 28 July 2013, 11:33:51
Hi,

I know there is some topics already about EGR:s but I couldn't find a topic that would make me ready for blocking it.

So what I do know is that blocking EGR will make my omega happier.

I read someone blocked some vacuum pipes, what are those?
Then i read someone blocks the EGR with tincan aluminium 2 different ways.
Some block the both holes and someone leaves the other hole with the valve open, that the valve can open and close, and blocks the other.

I really don't even know how my EGR looks because I haven't taken it off yet, but I assume that it has two holes at the bottom as the ones I've been reading.

And then I also found a photo of some chip that it prevents a EGR light coming on. Do I have somekind of EGR light problem if I do something to it?

-Mika
Title: Re: X30XE -95 EGR blocking
Post by: Andy B on 28 July 2013, 11:43:10
The EGR valve usually gets blanked off using a plate the same shape as the gasket click here (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EGR001GASK-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-2-5-4-94-4-01-EGR-Valve-Gasket-/290770525341?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43b3461c9d) but obviously without the two holes in the middle.

I know that some Vauxhall can be told that the EGR isn't still fitted, but the Omega isn't one of them, and if you disconnect it electrically, you will get an engine management light.  ;)
Title: Re: X30XE -95 EGR blocking
Post by: Muroman on 28 July 2013, 12:24:48
The EGR valve usually gets blanked off using a plate the same shape as the gasket click here (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EGR001GASK-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-2-5-4-94-4-01-EGR-Valve-Gasket-/290770525341?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43b3461c9d) but obviously without the two holes in the middle.

I know that some Vauxhall can be told that the EGR isn't still fitted, but the Omega isn't one of them, and if you disconnect it electrically, you will get an engine management light.  ;)

Here's a photo that I tried to explain about the other way to do the tincan fix, got an idea why he did that?
(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee515/t3mu/SNC00085.jpg)

He said at the forum where I picked up that picture, that he thinks that the valve should have room to close and open. And also you should know that this picture is from 2.2 engine EGR, does it make the difference?

-Mika
Title: Re: X30XE -95 EGR blocking
Post by: Andy B on 28 July 2013, 12:38:59
You've got me thinking now  :-\ I'm sure that the blank on my car doesn't have any holes in it  :-\  :-\
Title: Re: X30XE -95 EGR blocking
Post by: Jimbob on 28 July 2013, 12:41:15
Vauxhall themselves sell the blank...
That doesnt have any holes in.

Beware, making them out of thin cans, Ive seen these have holes burnt through them several times, needs to be a bit meatier.
Title: Re: X30XE -95 EGR blocking
Post by: Muroman on 28 July 2013, 12:57:12
Okay, thanks for the answers, gotta find thicker tin.
And it's sure that you don't need to change programs to ECU or nothing?

Lets see if I take out the whole air intake system and wash it today and also block the EGR.

(off topic)
But its 5 minutes for Formula 1 start so I watch it first :)

-Mika
Title: Re: X30XE -95 EGR blocking
Post by: Webby the Bear on 28 July 2013, 15:19:44
Okay, thanks for the answers, gotta find thicker tin.
And it's sure that you don't need to change programs to ECU or nothing?

Lets see if I take out the whole air intake system and wash it today and also block the EGR.

(off topic)
But its 5 minutes for Formula 1 start so I watch it first :)

-Mika

looking at your name and location..... we're glad to have the '99 world f1 champ on our forum!  ;)
Title: Re: X30XE -95 EGR blocking
Post by: TheBoy on 28 July 2013, 20:24:42
No ECU adjustments needed (or even possible), so just fit a blanking plate, and keep the EGR connected :y
Title: Re: X30XE -95 EGR blocking
Post by: albitz on 28 July 2013, 20:54:17
Okay, thanks for the answers, gotta find thicker tin.
And it's sure that you don't need to change programs to ECU or nothing?

Lets see if I take out the whole air intake system and wash it today and also block the EGR.

(off topic)
But its 5 minutes for Formula 1 start so I watch it first :)

-Mika

looking at your name and location..... we're glad to have the '99 world f1 champ on our forum!  ;)

And 98 iirc. ;)
Title: Re: X30XE -95 EGR blocking
Post by: Muroman on 29 July 2013, 19:47:59
So here is what I got from this EGR project.

This is what I made.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93773592/OOF/DSC01107e.JPG)


And this is why.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93773592/OOF/DSC01125e.JPG)
As you can see from my drawing it doesn't matter if you leave the hole with the vent open because the exhaust gas isn't coming to it.


I hope this topic will also help other to block the EGR.


But beware I haven't tested this yet with car running because I also did something else....(pictures taken yesterday)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93773592/OOF/DSC01095e.JPG)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93773592/OOF/DSC01101e.JPG)
It's been raining here all day so I didn't get a chance to put the parts back on. And yes I have a carage but the Legends of mine is taking all place :)




And sorry to say that I'm not f1 champ YET :) My name is Mika.H but not Häkkinen :D http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=116826.0 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=116826.0)

-Mika
Title: Re: X30XE -95 EGR blocking
Post by: Andy B on 29 July 2013, 19:53:31
So here is what I got from this EGR project.

This is what I made.
Looks to be just what you need!  :y  :y


It's been raining here all day so I didn't get a chance to put the parts back on. And yes I have a carage but the Legends of mine is taking all place :)
It's been either raining or pissing down here all day. I have a garage too, but mine is just full of 'stuff'


And sorry to say that I'm not f1 champ YET :) My name is Mika.H but not Häkkinen :D [ ...

-Mika

You're not F1 Champ YET ...... but are you practising?  ;)  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: X30XE -95 EGR blocking
Post by: Muroman on 29 July 2013, 19:59:11
Ye I don't what the weather thinks first it's almost 30c warm for almost a week (here in Finland it's alot) and now it's raining and according to meteorologists it will rain for whole week.

Check the link, there something about me and my hobbies ;)

-Mika
Title: Re: X30XE -95 EGR blocking
Post by: Muroman on 01 August 2013, 17:53:40
Evening,

umm I got all things together, started car running normally, very smooth but when I rev the throttle feels pretty hard and when you release throttle it kinda backfires? Is it normal after blocking EGR or? And what's with the throttle?

Here's picture now.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93773592/OOF/DSC01135e.JPG)

-Mika