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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: PAULCDX on 04 August 2013, 16:03:35

Title: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: PAULCDX on 04 August 2013, 16:03:35
Hi,

Driving home in the pouring rain the the other evening with headlights on and heating on quite full, I noticed a very faint red battery light on the dash  :o

When I turned the heating / climate off the faint light went out, turned it on and it came back on very faintly?

Only noticed it when it was dark in the car and all things switched on all at once.....

Is this related in anyway to my temp needle issue or have I now possibly got an issue with the alternator / drive belt?  :'(

Thanks for any help,  ;)
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: zirk on 04 August 2013, 16:06:56
If your Battery has been a bit hammered, you could get this before it fully gets re charged, just keep an eye on it Paul.
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: PAULCDX on 04 August 2013, 16:10:39
The battery is a genuine GM one and was fitted in 2012 by the previous owner so I hope it wouldn't be that so I'm hoping to rule that out  :-\

Like you say it could be that I had everything on all at once.  ???

I'm sure I've read somewhere it could be alternator packing up or the drive belt starting to slip, I'll keep and eye out and see if the light comes back on  :y
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: dbug on 04 August 2013, 21:52:44
The battery is a genuine GM one and was fitted in 2012 by the previous owner so I hope it wouldn't be that so I'm hoping to rule that out  :-\

Like you say it could be that I had everything on all at once.  ???

I'm sure I've read somewhere it could be alternator packing up or the drive belt starting to slip, I'll keep and eye out and see if the light comes back on  :y

Probable, very unlikely ;)
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: chrisgixer on 04 August 2013, 23:54:25
Pffff... Have I got to agree within dbug again?  ::)

It won't be the belt. Charging issue, could be alternator or battery. See Kevs battery guide with a meter. :)
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: Shallow Al on 05 August 2013, 00:00:07
Mine did this too a year or two back.
Before going for a new alternator, check the positive terminal connection on the battery, and feel if it is getting hot.
The main cable feeding from across the front of the engine and its connection with the positive terminal, can commonly go bad.
It is a large crimped joint into the battery terminal, if it gets hot when the engine is running and you have lots turned on, it is bad.
My symptoms were the same as yours.
You only notice the warning at night and with lots turned on.
I would have gone for the alternator straight away, this site put me right.
Could well be the alternator, but worth a quick check.
HTH.
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: cnj on 05 August 2013, 06:42:03
another thing to check is the earth straps, make sure they're both clean and making good contact.
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: Andy B on 05 August 2013, 08:40:32
...
The main cable feeding from across the front of the engine and its connection with the positive terminal, can commonly go bad.
It is a large crimped joint into the battery terminal, if it gets hot when the engine is running and you have lots turned on, it is bad.
 ....
My charge light used to faintly glow too.
I borrowed a large terminal crimp tool from work & managed to tighten the crimp on mine. It fixed it.  :y
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: PAULCDX on 05 August 2013, 09:12:54
Thanks for the replies guy's

I'll have a look into your suggestions, Cheers  ;)

Feel it can't be a battery issue as it's pretty new so I need to look at the other things etc  :y
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: PAULCDX on 13 August 2013, 21:06:55
Just an update on this,

This morning whilst driving in the dark with headlights on, heating on and wipers going all was fine. As soon as I put on the rear screen demister the battery light came on very faintly. ??? Turned it off the light went out..........

Got to work, switched off headlights, wipers and heating and then put rear screen on again to check and again the faint battery light came back on............. So it seems it only comeson when rear screen demister is turned on?  :-\

Any ideas ?

Thanks,  ;)

Paul
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: Broomies Mate on 13 August 2013, 21:10:10
Rear demister demands quite a high current.

Do simple checks with a meter before guessing.
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: PAULCDX on 13 August 2013, 21:15:52
Thanks, I've got no tools or a multimeter so I'll take it somewhere and get the battery and connections checked out. The battery is a year old and a GM one so hopefully it isn't that.  :-\
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: omegod on 13 August 2013, 21:52:08
Thanks, I've got no tools or a multimeter so I'll take it somewhere and get the battery and connections checked out. The battery is a year old and a GM one so hopefully it isn't that.  :-\

If you have the receipt with the history you may still be in the warranty period!
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: Broomies Mate on 13 August 2013, 22:13:00
Even the likes of Halfords will do a free test - Let them do it and when they say you need new shock-absorbers, brake discs and air freshner, tell them you'll pop back later.   :y
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: PAULCDX on 13 August 2013, 22:22:34
 ;D
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 August 2013, 10:13:28
That's the problem.. You won't get decent diagnosis from someone who's trying to sell you a new battery. Well worth checking all connections and especially engine to chassis  and chassis to battery negative straps.
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 14 August 2013, 13:35:08
doing a dynamic volt test will be a very basic test for if your alternator is working well. batt voltage should increase by at least half a volt when engine turned on. if it doesn't could be a poor alternator. from what ive learned :)

also worth doing a volt drop test to see if you have a parasitic draw draining the batt overnight
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 14 August 2013, 13:40:37
ps that's from memory from school.... if ive got anything wrong please be gentle :)
also check connections to alternator
Title: Re: Alternator / Drive belt issue ?
Post by: symes on 14 August 2013, 13:53:15
reckon cleaning inside battery lugs will sort problem-its amazing how dirty battery terminals can effect voltage :y