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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: M A W on 15 August 2013, 21:03:13

Title: 4 pot to 6 pot swap??? Advice please...
Post by: M A W on 15 August 2013, 21:03:13
Engine swap

Looking for some advice please....

I have a very clean and tidy 2002 ‘ish’ 2.2i petrol manual Omega Tourer CDX but I am thinking of doing a V6 engine and running gear transplant as I can not find a V6 Tourer that is a clean as mine at a price I can afford!

I have found a 2000 facelift 2.5 manual saloon for a good price with lots of history ( due for cambelt change ) just had recent plugs, leads, oil & air service plus it’s T & tested! and it would make an ideal donor car.

So my question is....... What kind of a job would I be taking on and is it possible without to much hassle? I’m pretty good with spanners so I’m not too worried about doing the work just more worried if I can make it work.

Feedback, opinions, suggestions ( polite ones  ;) ) most welcome.
Title: Re: 4 pot to 6 pot swap??? Advice please...
Post by: Andy B on 15 August 2013, 21:06:05
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Feedback, opinions, suggestions ( polite ones  ;) ) most welcome.

Too much like hard work for me. You'd end up with a modified car, & insurers don't like modified cars

How clean do you want your V6? Not many as clean as this  :y http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=117083.0
Title: Re: 4 pot to 6 pot swap??? Advice please...
Post by: dbug on 15 August 2013, 21:21:49
As said, if you want a V6, buy one ;)  Not worth mucking about trying to fit a V6, and all the associated gear, to a 2002 4 pot
Title: Re: 4 pot to 6 pot swap??? Advice please...
Post by: M A W on 15 August 2013, 21:57:56
Thanks for the replies so far...

Andy B,

I viewed and test drove the 3.2 Elite Tuesday! nice car but I really want a manual.
Title: Re: 4 pot to 6 pot swap??? Advice please...
Post by: kevinp58 on 15 August 2013, 22:24:29
There was a nice plod 3.2 special on the bay not long ago that was a manual.  :y
Title: Re: 4 pot to 6 pot swap??? Advice please...
Post by: Andy B on 15 August 2013, 22:26:19
.... but I really want a manual.

because you 'want to be in control ....... '  ::) ::) ::)

Have you ever driven an auto for more than a run around the block? Two pedals are the way forward ...... that's why the vast majority of prestige cars come with a proper 2 pedal gearbox .  :y :y :y
Title: Re: 4 pot to 6 pot swap??? Advice please...
Post by: kevinp58 on 15 August 2013, 22:28:20
.... but I really want a manual.

because you 'want to be in control ....... '  ::) ::) ::)

Have you ever driven an auto for more than a run around the block? Two pedals are the way forward ...... that's why the vast majority of prestige cars come with a proper 2 pedal gearbox .  :y :y :y










 :y :y :y especially if DMF is fitted to the manual
Title: Re: 4 pot to 6 pot swap??? Advice please...
Post by: Andy B on 15 August 2013, 22:33:22
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 :y :y :y especially if DMF is fitted to the manual

 :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: 4 pot to 6 pot swap??? Advice please...
Post by: M A W on 15 August 2013, 22:35:47
Yep,

I've had 2 manual 2.5 Tourers, 3 Auto 2.5 Tourers & a manual 3.0 Elite saloon. Prefer the manual + a tad better on fuel.
Title: Re: 4 pot to 6 pot swap??? Advice please...
Post by: kevinp58 on 15 August 2013, 22:39:06
Yep,

I've had 2 manual 2.5 Tourers, 3 Auto 2.5 Tourers & a manual 3.0 Elite saloon. Prefer the manual + a tad better on fuel.
     






I bet they all had the real clutch though unlike the 2.6 and the 3.2 not sure if the last of the 2.5 and 3.0 litre had DMF as well
Title: Re: 4 pot to 6 pot swap??? Advice please...
Post by: Andy B on 15 August 2013, 22:42:11

 ...... + a tad better on fuel.

and you're looking at V6 Omegas for fuel economy?  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: 4 pot to 6 pot swap??? Advice please...
Post by: kevinp58 on 15 August 2013, 22:44:13
Getting back to thread as others will tell you it is a whole lot of agro but it can be done with a lot of patience and time, the only main problem would be the insurance, as it will be a modified car and cost more to insure than a true V6 engined car from factory.
 And remember you need all the ancilleries and components also electrical problems.
Title: Re: 4 pot to 6 pot swap??? Advice please...
Post by: M A W on 15 August 2013, 23:20:23
Thanks KevinP58...

Gonna knock that idea on the head I think and just be happy with the 2.2i for the moment. I'll just sit tight and wait and see if a nice V6 comes up for sale that I trade mine in against.
Title: Re: 4 pot to 6 pot swap??? Advice please...
Post by: Andy B on 15 August 2013, 23:23:26
Thanks KevinP58...

Gonna knock that idea on the head I think and just be happy with the 2.2i for the moment. I'll just sit tight and wait and see if a nice V6 comes up for sale that I trade mine in against.

Which is exactly what I said in reply #1  ::) ::) ::)

be aware though that a lot civvy V6s come with just 2 pedals ...... unless you fore go the toys & buy an abused ex-Plod car  ::)
Title: Re: 4 pot to 6 pot swap??? Advice please...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 16 August 2013, 00:00:58
The beauty of going down the ex plod route, is that you can build the car to your own precise spec :y
Title: Re: 4 pot to 6 pot swap??? Advice please...
Post by: symes on 16 August 2013, 00:22:28
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Feedback, opinions, suggestions ( polite ones  ;) ) most welcome.

Too much like hard work for me. You'd end up with a modified car, & insurers don't like modified cars

How clean do you want your V6? Not many as clean as this  :y http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=117083.0
well when i put v8 in rover-used v8 parts had to get inspected--insurance fine?-dont know if Adrian flux could help
they custom specialist-but reckon shouldn't be much more-- money wise anyway as all said and done it would be a v6 miggy-however tune it and that could be awkward-If doing all that work-v8 the thing-and economy-ha ha-unless lpg-easier to get v6 and do that up-or get a miggy thats been done already :y :y