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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: cem_devecioglu on 17 August 2013, 21:57:30
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here is the solution which I'm going to buy ;D
http://www.hirdavat.com/Eksantrik-Zimpara-Bosch-GEX-125-150-AVE-Eksantrik-Zimpara-125-150-mm-400-W-.html?mrk=1 (http://www.hirdavat.com/Eksantrik-Zimpara-Bosch-GEX-125-150-AVE-Eksantrik-Zimpara-125-150-mm-400-W-.html?mrk=1)
http://3mcollision.com/products/abrasives/discs/3m-trizact-performance-sanding-disc-3000-grit-6-inch-01459.html
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here is the solution which I'm going to buy ;D
http://www.hirdavat.com/Eksantrik-Zimpara-Bosch-GEX-125-150-AVE-Eksantrik-Zimpara-125-150-mm-400-W-.html?mrk=1 (http://www.hirdavat.com/Eksantrik-Zimpara-Bosch-GEX-125-150-AVE-Eksantrik-Zimpara-125-150-mm-400-W-.html?mrk=1)
http://3mcollision.com/products/abrasives/discs/3m-trizact-performance-sanding-disc-3000-grit-6-inch-01459.html
When I saw this Cem, I thought you had found something to polish the dents out of TB's car ;D ;D
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here is the solution which I'm going to buy ;D
http://www.hirdavat.com/Eksantrik-Zimpara-Bosch-GEX-125-150-AVE-Eksantrik-Zimpara-125-150-mm-400-W-.html?mrk=1 (http://www.hirdavat.com/Eksantrik-Zimpara-Bosch-GEX-125-150-AVE-Eksantrik-Zimpara-125-150-mm-400-W-.html?mrk=1)
http://3mcollision.com/products/abrasives/discs/3m-trizact-performance-sanding-disc-3000-grit-6-inch-01459.html
When I saw this Cem, I thought you had found something to polish the dents out of TB's car ;D ;D
unfortunately dents are beyond my profession :-\
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here is the solution which I'm going to buy ;D
http://www.hirdavat.com/Eksantrik-Zimpara-Bosch-GEX-125-150-AVE-Eksantrik-Zimpara-125-150-mm-400-W-.html?mrk=1 (http://www.hirdavat.com/Eksantrik-Zimpara-Bosch-GEX-125-150-AVE-Eksantrik-Zimpara-125-150-mm-400-W-.html?mrk=1)
http://3mcollision.com/products/abrasives/discs/3m-trizact-performance-sanding-disc-3000-grit-6-inch-01459.html
When I saw this Cem, I thought you had found something to polish the dents out of TB's car ;D ;D
unfortunately dents are beyond my profession :-\
EPOXY :P
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You might try a Bosch PMF 190E http://www.tooled-up.com/review/bosch-pmf-190e-set-all-rounder-3-in-1-multi-tool-cuts-saws-sands-190w-240v/198475/ (http://www.tooled-up.com/review/bosch-pmf-190e-set-all-rounder-3-in-1-multi-tool-cuts-saws-sands-190w-240v/198475/)
They don't rotate they vibrate :-*
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You might try a Bosch PMF 190E http://www.tooled-up.com/review/bosch-pmf-190e-set-all-rounder-3-in-1-multi-tool-cuts-saws-sands-190w-240v/198475/ (http://www.tooled-up.com/review/bosch-pmf-190e-set-all-rounder-3-in-1-multi-tool-cuts-saws-sands-190w-240v/198475/)
They don't rotate they vibrate :-*
will check them thanks :y
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here is the solution which I'm going to buy ;D
http://www.hirdavat.com/Eksantrik-Zimpara-Bosch-GEX-125-150-AVE-Eksantrik-Zimpara-125-150-mm-400-W-.html?mrk=1 (http://www.hirdavat.com/Eksantrik-Zimpara-Bosch-GEX-125-150-AVE-Eksantrik-Zimpara-125-150-mm-400-W-.html?mrk=1)
http://3mcollision.com/products/abrasives/discs/3m-trizact-performance-sanding-disc-3000-grit-6-inch-01459.html
When I saw this Cem, I thought you had found something to polish the dents out of TB's car ;D ;D
unfortunately dents are beyond my profession :-\
EPOXY :P
;D will ned lots to fill ;D :y
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here is the solution which I'm going to buy ;D
http://www.hirdavat.com/Eksantrik-Zimpara-Bosch-GEX-125-150-AVE-Eksantrik-Zimpara-125-150-mm-400-W-.html?mrk=1 (http://www.hirdavat.com/Eksantrik-Zimpara-Bosch-GEX-125-150-AVE-Eksantrik-Zimpara-125-150-mm-400-W-.html?mrk=1)
http://3mcollision.com/products/abrasives/discs/3m-trizact-performance-sanding-disc-3000-grit-6-inch-01459.html
When I saw this Cem, I thought you had found something to polish the dents out of TB's car ;D ;D
unfortunately dents are beyond my profession :-\
EPOXY :P
;D will ned lots to fill ;D :y
For big dents use fiberglass matting , covers rust holes like magic too ;D
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after some physical search and talking to shops, ordered this one :-\
http://www.lawson-his.co.uk/bosch-gex-150-turbo-150mm-6-professional--p85413
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after some physical search and talking to shops, ordered this one :-\
http://www.lawson-his.co.uk/bosch-gex-150-turbo-150mm-6-professional--p85413 (http://www.lawson-his.co.uk/bosch-gex-150-turbo-150mm-6-professional--p85413)
yesterday , package arrived .. it has a big box.. and a bit heavier than I expect..
tested the sanding function with 1500 grid on scratch resistent laquer for some hours..
it erased all previous scratches that I caused by hand ??? :) :)
and later tested polishing function with farecla G3 ..
results are stunning to say the least.. never ever seen any laquer without swirls ;D
although for the polishing I was not patient enough so after some polishing used my rotary polisher to speed up the job but
really I liked it.. so 230 £ didnt fly out the window ;D
and if you are going to sand and polish whole car with a scratch resistent laquer those machines are a must.. and whatever you do sanding by hand causes scratches and hard to remove with that kind of clearcoat
ps: dont believe in the ad its not quiet ;D
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here are the pictures of trials/ tests
brief of whats done
sanding with 1500 grid without dual action (no rotary) - bosch gex 150
then polishing with G3 (rotary only) - hitachi
then polishing with american eagle (no rotary) -bosch gex 150
final protector not applied
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very close picture under sun
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omegapaint/da_test01_zpse9e6d2dc.jpg)
and some others
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omegapaint/da_test02_zps4552eca3.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omegapaint/da_test04_zpsc359e5be.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omegapaint/da_test03_zps337cbda3.jpg)
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Nice job cem :y You need more filler on those dents though ;D Test panel i know :y
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Nice job cem :y You need more filler on those dents though ;D Test panel i know :y
no filler jobbie can fill these , trust me ;D :y
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If i had results like that i'd be running my own spray shop :y
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If i had results like that i'd be running my own spray shop :y
I dont think the car's owners patience will be enough to wait me for I complete the job.. ;D
a single hoods paint job took several steps and days (1 day primer (10-12 layer) ,next day sanding + base color coat (7-8 layer) , next day sanding + final color coat+ clear coat next day sanding and clear coat again, + 3-4 days for sanding & polishing nearly a week in total ;D :-\ :(
ps: and thats done in 34-35 celcius avg temperature .. in a colder climate multiply the time by 2 :-\
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Bit of a perfectionist eh cem ;)
Keep up the good work :y
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Bit of a perfectionist eh cem ;)
Keep up the good work :y
trying ;D thanks :y
honestly for me there are 2 reasons.. 1st I have got fed up with bodge jobs that shops do.. 2nd I need something to do in my retirement years (if I can live that long but my current health says from job to cemetery ;D ;D ;D )
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If i had results like that i'd be running my own spray shop :y
I dont think the car's owners patience will be enough to wait me for I complete the job.. ;D
a single hoods paint job took several steps and days (1 day primer (10-12 layer) ,next day sanding + base color coat (7-8 layer) , next day sanding + final color coat+ clear coat next day sanding and clear coat again, + 3-4 days for sanding & polishing nearly a week in total ;D :-\ :(
ps: and thats done in 34-35 celcius avg temperature .. in a colder climate multiply the time by 2 :-\
Proper spray booth would have heaters wouldnt it :-\ Im quite positive that if i had a spray booth i could get really good results . Doing a spray job without is hard with dust and insects sticking to it >:( >:( >:(
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If i had results like that i'd be running my own spray shop :y
I dont think the car's owners patience will be enough to wait me for I complete the job.. ;D
a single hoods paint job took several steps and days (1 day primer (10-12 layer) ,next day sanding + base color coat (7-8 layer) , next day sanding + final color coat+ clear coat next day sanding and clear coat again, + 3-4 days for sanding & polishing nearly a week in total ;D :-\ :(
ps: and thats done in 34-35 celcius avg temperature .. in a colder climate multiply the time by 2 :-\
Proper spray booth would have heaters wouldnt it :-\ Im quite positive that if i had a spray booth i could get really good results . Doing a spray job without is hard with dust and insects sticking to it >:( >:( >:(
If spraying without a booth, wet down the floor etc to keep dust at a minimum, insects etc can be "polished" out once paint set ;)
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If i had results like that i'd be running my own spray shop :y
I dont think the car's owners patience will be enough to wait me for I complete the job.. ;D
a single hoods paint job took several steps and days (1 day primer (10-12 layer) ,next day sanding + base color coat (7-8 layer) , next day sanding + final color coat+ clear coat next day sanding and clear coat again, + 3-4 days for sanding & polishing nearly a week in total ;D :-\ :(
ps: and thats done in 34-35 celcius avg temperature .. in a colder climate multiply the time by 2 :-\
Proper spray booth would have heaters wouldnt it :-\ Im quite positive that if i had a spray booth i could get really good results . Doing a spray job without is hard with dust and insects sticking to it >:( >:( >:(
If spraying without a booth, wet down the floor etc to keep dust at a minimum, insects etc can be "polished" out once paint set ;)
I had an excellent finish of top coat then i went back half hour later and 2 small bugs had settled on it plus 2 cat hairs :'( Cant really wet the floor inside the shed as ive got carpet ;D
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If i had results like that i'd be running my own spray shop :y
I dont think the car's owners patience will be enough to wait me for I complete the job.. ;D
a single hoods paint job took several steps and days (1 day primer (10-12 layer) ,next day sanding + base color coat (7-8 layer) , next day sanding + final color coat+ clear coat next day sanding and clear coat again, + 3-4 days for sanding & polishing nearly a week in total ;D :-\ :(
ps: and thats done in 34-35 celcius avg temperature .. in a colder climate multiply the time by 2 :-\
Proper spray booth would have heaters wouldnt it :-\
Yep..
Im quite positive that if i had a spray booth i could get really good results .
after few trials you can .. I learned in the same way.. :) and I have seen many pros still making mistakes when they are not careful like runs, flows etc etc
Doing a spray job without is hard with dust and insects sticking to it >:( >:( >:(
experiencing and sanding quite a lot of them as I also paint outside ;D
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If i had results like that i'd be running my own spray shop :y
I dont think the car's owners patience will be enough to wait me for I complete the job.. ;D
a single hoods paint job took several steps and days (1 day primer (10-12 layer) ,next day sanding + base color coat (7-8 layer) , next day sanding + final color coat+ clear coat next day sanding and clear coat again, + 3-4 days for sanding & polishing nearly a week in total ;D :-\ :(
ps: and thats done in 34-35 celcius avg temperature .. in a colder climate multiply the time by 2 :-\
Proper spray booth would have heaters wouldnt it :-\ Im quite positive that if i had a spray booth i could get really good results . Doing a spray job without is hard with dust and insects sticking to it >:( >:( >:(
If spraying without a booth, wet down the floor etc to keep dust at a minimum, insects etc can be "polished" out once paint set ;)
I still have a small wing on the hood which was too deep ;D
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If i had results like that i'd be running my own spray shop :y
I dont think the car's owners patience will be enough to wait me for I complete the job.. ;D
a single hoods paint job took several steps and days (1 day primer (10-12 layer) ,next day sanding + base color coat (7-8 layer) , next day sanding + final color coat+ clear coat next day sanding and clear coat again, + 3-4 days for sanding & polishing nearly a week in total ;D :-\ :(
ps: and thats done in 34-35 celcius avg temperature .. in a colder climate multiply the time by 2 :-\
Proper spray booth would have heaters wouldnt it :-\ Im quite positive that if i had a spray booth i could get really good results . Doing a spray job without is hard with dust and insects sticking to it >:( >:( >:(
If spraying without a booth, wet down the floor etc to keep dust at a minimum, insects etc can be "polished" out once paint set ;)
I had an excellent finish of top coat then i went back half hour later and 2 small bugs had settled on it plus 2 cat hairs :'( Cant really wet the floor inside the shed as ive got carpet ;D
soon it will be a painted floor ;D ;D ;D :y
ps: cat hairs are the least of trouble as they are long , they dont bury deep :)
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I hope it will be a garage and half size with painted floor . No oil changes in the snow :(
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I hope it will be a garage and half size with painted floor . No oil changes in the snow :(
after some problems with my lungs (lesson learned) I started using this
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omegapaint/3mmaske_zps784daf63.jpg)
its 3m paint mask which is widely used and very effective.. so I recommend it.. :y