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Title: Warning light
Post by: VauxVera on 22 August 2013, 14:19:08
My emmission control system light has suddenly come on and does not go out, engine sounds ropey, car not running well, does anyone know what I need to do?  any help much appreciated as it sounds as if might be expensive!  :'(
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: bago on 22 August 2013, 14:20:30
you need to have the fsault codes read  it could be a number of things and having the codes read would help identify it
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: VauxVera on 22 August 2013, 14:22:16
Would my local garage be able to do that or will I have to go to Vauxhall dealer?
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: tunnie on 22 August 2013, 14:29:00
Local garage can do it, get the codes.

Start off with some basic work first though, check plugs for oil/water if you can  :y
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: VauxVera on 22 August 2013, 14:31:34
Okay thanks, I am not too technical so would not be able to do it myself, will have to take to garage, thanks for your help
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: bago on 22 August 2013, 14:32:41
Local garage can do it, get the codes.

Start off with some basic work first though, check plugs for oil/water if you can  :y

yes the 2.2 are prone for the rocker cover gasket leaking an dthe oil goes into the  well where the plugs are
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: tunnie on 22 August 2013, 14:37:02
Local garage can do it, get the codes.

Start off with some basic work first though, check plugs for oil/water if you can  :y

yes the 2.2 are prone for the rocker cover gasket leaking an dthe oil goes into the  well where the plugs are

Not quite right, they are no worse than 2.0 or any of the V6's - Poor oil service schedule and blocked breathers cause them to fail.

My 2.2 is on 165k, it's on its second cam cover gasket, replaced at approx 100k  ;)
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: aaronjb on 22 August 2013, 14:43:36
Whereabouts in Surrey are you? There's a few of us localish who might be able to help out.
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: Steve B on 22 August 2013, 15:21:13
You always have to nit pick at peoples posts dont you tunnie

He stated that the 2.2 is prone to rocker cover gaskets leaking,In which he is correct.
The op is talking about a 2.2..No other engine..
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: tunnie on 22 August 2013, 15:27:16
You always have to nit pick at peoples posts dont you tunnie

He stated that the 2.2 is prone to rocker cover gaskets leaking,In which he is correct.
The op is talking about a 2.2..No other engine..

But the 2.2 is not prone to it, as i stated no worse than any other petrol engine Omega.

Not nit picking, just correcting them that its not just 2.2 affected, all cam covers are prone to leaking, if neglected.
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: VauxVera on 22 August 2013, 15:42:09
Now, now, don't fight about it!   ;D  Had a new cambelt and all belts a few months ago, had an oil change about a couple of months ago, local place, don't think they cleaned the breathers though. Just had the AA out they put on diagnostic and said it was crankshaft error message, he turned light off, went round the block and all seems okay again. It was running a bit ropey before that, and last couple of days seemed to not have much wellie when acclerating,  he said maybe air con pump??
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: VauxVera on 22 August 2013, 15:44:02
By the way I live in Slough now, forgot to change my address, work in Chertsey, Surrey though, so that's where I am at the mo
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: tunnie on 22 August 2013, 15:47:51
Now, now, don't fight about it!   ;D  Had a new cambelt and all belts a few months ago, had an oil change about a couple of months ago, local place, don't think they cleaned the breathers though. Just had the AA out they put on diagnostic and said it was crankshaft error message, he turned light off, went round the block and all seems okay again. It was running a bit ropey before that, and last couple of days seemed to not have much wellie when acclerating,  he said maybe air con pump??

Only the AA could link air-con compressor to reduced performance  ;D

Crankshaft sensor on 2.2 is practically bullet proof, what was the full list of codes?

You can't turn the light off, it goes out when the fault is fixed/goes away.

It's more likely its cam sensor issue on a 2.2  :y
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: aaronjb on 22 August 2013, 15:53:45
By the way I live in Slough now, forgot to change my address, work in Chertsey, Surrey though, so that's where I am at the mo

I used to live in Slough.. which doesn't help you much (in Bracknell now) but I work in Chertsey.. If I borrow my code reader back off chrisgixer then we could read your codes one lunchtime or before/after work depending on time etc, assuming the helpful AA man didn't clear them and remove any evidence! Live data might show something up, though, if it's still not running right, and/or there may be stored pending codes to read.
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: VauxVera on 22 August 2013, 15:59:30
Thanks aaronjb how spooky that you work in Chertsey also! I am on leave next week will be in Slough! Would very much appreciate your imput re the codes, let me know when you are available.  AA man did remove light coming up, the only code he found was the crankshaft sensor? He said to turn air con off if light comes on again!?  Running fine when we went round the block, have to see if I can get home to Slough okay!
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: aaronjb on 22 August 2013, 16:11:51
It's a small world, as they say!

I very much doubt (as tunnie says) it's in any way related to your aircon.. I think received wisdom is that the crank sensor is more reliable on the 2.2 than on the v6, but much more of a sod to change! If you had a V6 I could change the crank sensor for you pretty much at the side of the road.. swings and roundabouts, you have half as many of a lot of other bits that can go wrong ;)

If you get any other problems, let me know.. you're not a million miles away and I'm free most Saturdays as the other half is at work :y
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: bago on 22 August 2013, 17:22:02
Now, now, don't fight about it!   ;D  Had a new cambelt and all belts a few months ago, had an oil change about a couple of months ago, local place, don't think they cleaned the breathers though. Just had the AA out they put on diagnostic and said it was crankshaft error message, he turned light off, went round the block and all seems okay again. It was running a bit ropey before that, and last couple of days seemed to not have much wellie when acclerating,  he said maybe air con pump??

Only the AA could link air-con compressor to reduced performance  ;D

Crankshaft sensor on 2.2 is practically bullet proof, what was the full list of codes?

You can't turn the light off, it goes out when the fault is fixed/goes away.

It's more likely its cam sensor issue on a 2.2  :y


I think he may be right on that I had a 2.2 and that had a cam shaft sensor play up and it use to run a bit ruff . clearing the fault  and it would run alright for a day or 2 then come back.
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: tunnie on 22 August 2013, 17:33:15
If it takes a fair bit of cranking to start and fire when hot, also signs of cam sensor  :y
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: VauxVera on 26 August 2013, 09:21:41
Got home okay! This car is brilliant! No more warning lights, running well. Does 40 mile round trip commuting everyday. Took her for a run to Bournemouth at the weekend, 200 miles no problem!  :y will have to sell though as bit expensive to keep commuting with every day  :( any suggestions on how to sell her?
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: tunnie on 26 August 2013, 09:27:21
Autotrader is your best bet, eBay is full of scammers and time wasters   :)

Remember that changing the car for a diesel (i'm assuming thats what you are doing as you mention cost) - Takes along time to re-coup the outlay of cash.

I LPG'd my 2.2 Omega, cost around £700. So imagine if instead you spent £700+ on getting a replacement diesel.

LPG basically saves you around 40% + in fuel cost, going from say 30mpg average to an effective 50mpg+

It still takes around 8 to 10,000 miles or so to get that cost back, before you start to save money.

So again assuming you do 40 miles a day, every day, 5 days a week, every month for 12 months, £700 spend won't save you any money. Only after about 13/14th month will you save.

Something to bear in mind  :y
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: VauxVera on 26 August 2013, 09:37:54
Thanks Tunnie, food for thought!  ??? Yes was thinking of diesel, LPG good, but as you say
Long time to re-coup costs. Looking for estate as doggo's love being in car :y
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: tunnie on 26 August 2013, 09:41:54
Consider an Omega diesel estate, lot of help as always from here to make sure your repairs are cost effective.

http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201308258475428/sort/default/usedcars/body-type/estate/fuel-type/diesel/model/omega/make/vauxhall/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1500/postcode/nn136er/page/1?logcode=p (http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201308258475428/sort/default/usedcars/body-type/estate/fuel-type/diesel/model/omega/make/vauxhall/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/radius/1500/postcode/nn136er/page/1?logcode=p)

Ignore the Top of the Range bulls*  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: VauxVera on 26 August 2013, 09:47:21
Thanks tunnie, looks good :y same spec as mine, except manual gearbox, I was looking for auto gearbox, easier for commuting for me  ;D
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: TheBoy on 26 August 2013, 09:49:42
Autos will hurt urban economy I'm afraid
Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: tunnie on 26 August 2013, 09:51:56
Thanks tunnie, looks good :y same spec as mine, except manual gearbox, I was looking for auto gearbox, easier for commuting for me  ;D

As TB said, auto's really do lower mpg, especially around town. If you are prepared to get clutch foot going, heard people here getting 600 miles from a tank on the DTi's  :)

Title: Re: Warning light
Post by: VauxVera on 26 August 2013, 09:56:32
Yes not good economy with the auto :( will have to not be so lazy
With the left foot :) 600 sounds good to me!