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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: TheBoy on 26 August 2013, 08:50:31

Title: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: TheBoy on 26 August 2013, 08:50:31
Need some in a hurry, and dealers not open today. So need to use Hellfrauds.

The car has had nothing but GM Red in it since I first changed it (from blue) several years ago, if that introduces any incompatibilities? I will be slapping GM Red back in as soon as the garage is rebuilt, and I'm back in to the swing of things.

So...

2year: http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_176849_langId_-1_categoryId_255224

5year: http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_219452_langId_-1_categoryId_255224
Title: Re: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: tunnie on 26 August 2013, 08:53:42
Damn you should have said, I could have lent you my Halfords Trade card  :(
Title: Re: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: alank46 on 26 August 2013, 08:57:30
Why not use water for just half a day and buy GM tomorrow?
Title: Re: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: Andy H on 26 August 2013, 09:06:35
Why not use water for just half a day and buy GM tomorrow?
+1

Fresh water flush today. Tomorrow drain water from the radiator drain and pour 5.5 litres of GM pink into header tank. Job done.
Title: Re: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: TheBoy on 26 August 2013, 09:11:45
Why not use water for just half a day and buy GM tomorrow?
No opportunities for a couple of weeks.  TBH, the coolant in there is a bloody disgrace  :-[. It must of missed a change, so its probably 4yrs old (I know it definately had some 4yrs ago, as it dumped it all up the A43 after I followed the instruction of Marks DTM to take it for a spirited drive, after the engine issues ;D)

So I'll flush through with water, slap in the antifreeze, then look to change it all again in a few months.
Title: Re: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: tunnie on 26 August 2013, 09:15:23
Can it wait until Thursday? I'm popping back either then or Saturday, to finish brake shoe change.

Can get it on trade and drop it off  :y
Title: Re: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: TheBoy on 26 August 2013, 09:18:30
Can it wait until Thursday? I'm popping back either then or Saturday, to finish brake shoe change.

Can get it on trade and drop it off  :y
Nope, as I'm not available.

Today is a dry enough day, and I can borrow a hosepipe (mine melted). So I'm doing it today.
Title: Re: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 August 2013, 11:13:22
Use the cheap stuff if it's only temporary. With a good flush there'll be no compatibility issues (I think the GM stuff states that it's compatible with most other coolants anyway).
Title: Re: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: TheBoy on 26 August 2013, 12:02:23
More expensive stuff bought, just draining now...
Title: Re: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: TheBoy on 26 August 2013, 12:06:35
Use the cheap stuff if it's only temporary. With a good flush there'll be no compatibility issues (I think the GM stuff states that it's compatible with most other coolants anyway).
Opps, missed this, was already out buying it.

Ah well, it was under £20 :)
Title: Re: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: TheBoy on 26 August 2013, 14:08:21
Job jobbed, inbetween cutting the grass moving, some bits around and din-dins.

Gave it a pretty thorough flushing, so hopefully got all the shite out.
Title: Re: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: PhilRich on 26 August 2013, 20:55:11
Use the cheap stuff if it's only temporary. With a good flush there'll be no compatibility issues (I think the GM stuff states that it's compatible with most other coolants anyway).
Opps, missed this, was already out buying it.

Ah well, it was under £20 :)








So you've got money to burn as well as garages  ::) ;D ;)
Title: Re: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: tunnie on 26 August 2013, 21:02:50
Use the cheap stuff if it's only temporary. With a good flush there'll be no compatibility issues (I think the GM stuff states that it's compatible with most other coolants anyway).
Opps, missed this, was already out buying it.

Ah well, it was under £20 :)








So you've got money to burn as well as garages  ::) ;D ;)

Got a little fat he could burn off too  ;D
Title: Re: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: dbdb on 26 August 2013, 23:24:21
Anyone know if it's a good or bad idea to use the red in an old engine (1950s)?
Title: Re: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: kevinp58 on 26 August 2013, 23:47:17
Anyone know if it's a good or bad idea to use the red in an old engine (1950s)?







No it Shouldn't do any damage, just a better type than the old blue that was used.
Title: Re: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: TheBoy on 27 August 2013, 07:27:33
OAT based coolant can attack seals, so stick with manufacturers recommendation.

Some antifreeze doesn't mix with other types either
Title: Re: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 27 August 2013, 08:48:51
Anyone know if it's a good or bad idea to use the red in an old engine (1950s)?

Its very engine dependent, the view is no as the rubber used in older engines for seals is often a basic rubber or simple Neoprene which is more prone to attack from the modern antifreeze and will be very well past its best.

On the loco I use a basic 2 year antifreeze which has a silicate based additive and not the organic acid technology, the trouble is it needs changing every two-three years and at 410 litres required per change!
Title: Re: Hellfrauds antifreeze
Post by: dbdb on 27 August 2013, 11:27:14
Thanks.  Just for entertainment here is what eurocarparts say:

"Antifreeze comes in many colors, which are just the preference of the manufacturer. However, when checking the quality, no matter what the color, you need to look that the liquid is clear and not brown with bits of rust floating. This is a sign that the system may need flushing and antifreeze replacing."

I wonder who writes that stuff. ;D