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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: relluf on 17 September 2013, 22:27:29

Title: Starter motor not engaging
Post by: relluf on 17 September 2013, 22:27:29
Hi ,over the last week or so the starter motor on my TD has not engaged on a couple of occasions ie it just "whizzes" but starts on the second or third attempt.

So is it on its way out?( I suspect so) if so can it be refurbed ?
Can I do it myself?
Has anyone done this? What would i need to do?
Thanks in advance.

On a good note passed its MOT today with just an advisory on front pads ,result!!
Title: Re: Starter motor not engaging
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 September 2013, 22:36:06
Solenoid should be easy enough to swap out :y might not even need to remove the motor...
Title: Re: Starter motor not engaging
Post by: dbug on 17 September 2013, 23:13:30
Solenoid should be easy enough to swap out :y might not even need to remove the motor...

If solenoid knackered it usually just clicks and doesn't spin.  Check starter motor bolts tight first as these starters are pre-engaged.  Failing that suspect broken pinion spring, knackered pinion or ring gear ;)
Title: Re: Starter motor not engaging
Post by: Andy B on 17 September 2013, 23:16:09
Solenoid should be easy enough to swap out :y might not even need to remove the motor...

If solenoid knackered it usually just clicks and doesn't spin.  Check starter motor bolts tight first as these starters are pre-engaged.  Failing that suspect broken pinion spring, knackered pinion or ring gear ;)

I agree. The solenoid needs to move to make the circuit for the starter itself
Title: Re: Starter motor not engaging
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 September 2013, 23:26:07
A valid point, but part of the question was about overhauling the starter motor. And given the solenoid is only held on by two bolts, changing it should be easy enough :y
Title: Re: Starter motor not engaging
Post by: dbug on 18 September 2013, 01:23:00
A valid point, but part of the question was about overhauling the starter motor. And given the solenoid is only held on by two bolts, changing it should be easy enough :y

Why change it if its working ok?  Probable cause of ops problem is that starter spins ok (hence solenoid ok) but not always engaging with ring gear.  Either out of alignment (bolts loose), or sticky/damaged pinion or damaged ring gear.

If bolts tight suggest removing starter for inspection and examine ring gear through starter aperture ;)
Title: Re: Starter motor not engaging
Post by: relluf on 18 September 2013, 08:39:49
Ha What have I started!!! :D
Right so will get under it today and have a looksie

Anyone point me in the direction of a new one, if its not loose fixings? I guess as usual this BMW lump is going to be different from everyone elses so will be specific fit!!
Thank you ALL for your input ,great as usual.
Title: Re: Starter motor not engaging
Post by: relluf on 18 September 2013, 08:41:44
A valid point, but part of the question was about overhauling the starter motor. And given the solenoid is only held on by two bolts, changing it should be easy enough :y

Why change it if its working ok?  Probable cause of ops problem is that starter spins ok (hence solenoid ok) but not always engaging with ring gear.  Either out of alignment (bolts loose), or sticky/damaged pinion or damaged ring gear.

If bolts tight suggest removing starter for inspection and examine ring gear through starter aperture ;)

Sorry just re-read this properly !
So could be not engaging on part of ring!
Title: Re: Starter motor not engaging
Post by: TheBoy on 18 September 2013, 18:54:17
Reliable enough to use 2nd hand, and dead easy once intake is off.