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Title: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: rinoceros on 29 September 2013, 08:11:09
Hello friends,

Do you know   how can I check how many  realkilometers is my Omega?

All answer will be appreciated.

Thank you
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: TheBoy on 29 September 2013, 09:18:04
Technically, you can't. Its not stored in any ECU, so if someone has messed with the dashboard, you'll need to revert to any paperwork trail from servicing etc.

Prefacelift Omegas (94-99) wear very well, so are often clocked by scumbag traders. Facelift Omega-B models do not wear so well, so IME are clocked less.
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: MR MISTER on 29 September 2013, 10:43:14
Technically, you can't. Its not stored in any ECU, so if someone has messed with the dashboard, you'll need to revert to any paperwork trail from servicing etc.

Prefacelift Omegas (94-99) wear very well, so are often clocked by scumbag traders. Facelift Omega-B models do not wear so well, so IME are clocked less.
I thought I read somewhere that if you 'clock' a car using a tech2 etc., it was recorded. :-\
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: TheBoy on 29 September 2013, 11:02:26
Technically, you can't. Its not stored in any ECU, so if someone has messed with the dashboard, you'll need to revert to any paperwork trail from servicing etc.

Prefacelift Omegas (94-99) wear very well, so are often clocked by scumbag traders. Facelift Omega-B models do not wear so well, so IME are clocked less.
I thought I read somewhere that if you 'clock' a car using a tech2 etc., it was recorded. :-\
Its a mechanical odometer, thus not adjusted via Tech2, unlike some of the others.
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: MR MISTER on 29 September 2013, 11:28:02
Technically, you can't. Its not stored in any ECU, so if someone has messed with the dashboard, you'll need to revert to any paperwork trail from servicing etc.

Prefacelift Omegas (94-99) wear very well, so are often clocked by scumbag traders. Facelift Omega-B models do not wear so well, so IME are clocked less.
I thought I read somewhere that if you 'clock' a car using a tech2 etc., it was recorded. :-\
Its a mechanical odometer, thus not adjusted via Tech2, unlike some of the others.
Of course it is. It's early you know. :-[
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: dbdb on 29 September 2013, 15:14:31
You can make a guess by feeling the ridge on the front and rear brake disks assuming they have not been replaced (rear ones should be original at least) and by looking at a lot of things eg the pedal wear, seat wear, faint scratches by the door handle, condition of the steering wheel leather, gear stick, buttons on the dash, wear on the car mats etc etc....  If it's very low mileage you may even have the original exhaust or even tyres (<50,000KM).
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 29 September 2013, 18:19:18
best way to understand a car is clocked is checking its steering leather. it tend to wear at 100K kilometers at  200K its totally worn out..

also you can understand the state of engine by looking at its cold and hot idle..  and a stethoscope on the engine block will tell many ;D

also there are many other things that can tell you.. door isolation plastics,- underneath the car- exhaust pipes condition,  chasis links rust will also tell many things..
 
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: TheBoy on 29 September 2013, 19:53:49
You can make a guess by feeling the ridge on the front and rear brake disks assuming they have not been replaced (rear ones should be original at least) and by looking at a lot of things eg the pedal wear, seat wear, faint scratches by the door handle, condition of the steering wheel leather, gear stick, buttons on the dash, wear on the car mats etc etc....  If it's very low mileage you may even have the original exhaust or even tyres (<50,000KM).
Those tricks dont work too well on a PFL, due to how well they wear, and make FL look suspicious due to how poorly they wear.
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: dbdb on 30 September 2013, 00:03:50
Nothing wears as fast as the buttons on a FL but my PFL air con button went at 60K and I replaced it. It nearly went again except the ac died first.  The steering wheel leather starting going about 100K but was still usable at 190K.
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 September 2013, 00:50:22
Nothing wears as fast as the buttons on a FL but my PFL air con button went at 60K and I replaced it. It nearly went again except the ac died first.  The steering wheel leather starting going about 100K but was still usable at 190K.
Leather condition depends entirely on how well it's been treated...

Changed my steering wheel at 235k for an Irmscher one, still as new. Likewise, Gear knob has done over 254k, still as new. Pedals are original and only partly worn, climate panel is also original and as new...

Treat any car like a skip and it will soon resemble one ::)
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: dbdb on 30 September 2013, 02:29:48

Leather condition depends entirely on how well it's been treated...

Changed my steering wheel at 235k for an Irmscher one, still as new. Likewise, Gear knob has done over 254k, still as new. Pedals are original and only partly worn, climate panel is also original and as new...

Treat any car like a skip and it will soon resemble one ::)

That's incredible, is this you? ;D
(http://www.modcloth.com/store/images/020509_08_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 September 2013, 03:06:31
 ;D nah. My fingers bare much bigger than those ;D
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: Johnny English on 30 September 2013, 06:57:08
Hello friends,

Do you know   how can I check how many  realkilometers is my Omega?

All answer will be appreciated.

Thank you

Don't worry about kilometers mate, if your car does not eat oil, coolant is not oiled, oil is not coolanted, spark plugs are not sitting in oil and sound of engine not like a diesel then no need to worry! Mine is close to 300 000 km on the clock shows certainly much less then it's real km (thx Mr Deeler) but still working fine! A v6 can achive closely double km to a 4 pot - in proper hands of course!  :y

Laszlo
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: TheBoy on 30 September 2013, 08:59:50
Nothing wears as fast as the buttons on a FL but my PFL air con button went at 60K and I replaced it. It nearly went again except the ac died first.  The steering wheel leather starting going about 100K but was still usable at 190K.
At 210k, my MV6 internally is showing no signs of *any* wear, except the steering wheel where the leather had just started to look rough ;)
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 30 September 2013, 09:50:35
Nothing wears as fast as the buttons on a FL but my PFL air con button went at 60K and I replaced it. It nearly went again except the ac died first.  The steering wheel leather starting going about 100K but was still usable at 190K.
At 210k, my MV6 internally is showing no signs of *any* wear, except the steering wheel where the leather had just started to look rough ;)

 :o   I think UKs sun has an effect.. here I very rarely I see a steering wheel leather reach 300K kms.. around 200 say max 250 no paint left on it..
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 30 September 2013, 10:18:54
You need to start using the same hand moisturiser that TB does then Cem
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 30 September 2013, 12:13:33
You need to start using the same hand moisturiser that TB does then Cem

 ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
 
frequent sanding/painting/polishing really damaged my hands..  :-\
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: TheBoy on 30 September 2013, 12:27:51
You need to start using the same hand moisturiser that TB does then Cem
Sweat, from being a fat bastard? ;D

I wonder if always having the A/C on helps, to stop the sweaty, horrible stuff from damaging the leather wheel/gearknob? I don't think it makes (hardly) buggerall difference to economy - certainly not the 10% that the tree huggers would have you believe - and the comfort factor is so much higher with it on, even in winter
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 September 2013, 13:55:25
Nothing wears as fast as the buttons on a FL but my PFL air con button went at 60K and I replaced it. It nearly went again except the ac died first.  The steering wheel leather starting going about 100K but was still usable at 190K.
Leather condition depends entirely on how well it's been treated...

Changed my steering wheel at 235k for an Irmscher one, still as new. Likewise, Gear knob has done over 254k, still as new. Pedals are original and only partly worn, climate panel is also original and as new...

Treat any car like a skip and it will soon resemble one ::)

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y486/05omegav6/IMG_20130930_133308_zpsa01b3876.jpg)

Excuse the fluff ::)
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: dbdb on 30 September 2013, 21:00:52
Nothing wears as fast as the buttons on a FL but my PFL air con button went at 60K and I replaced it. It nearly went again except the ac died first.  The steering wheel leather starting going about 100K but was still usable at 190K.
Leather condition depends entirely on how well it's been treated...

Changed my steering wheel at 235k for an Irmscher one, still as new. Likewise, Gear knob has done over 254k, still as new. Pedals are original and only partly worn, climate panel is also original and as new...

Treat any car like a skip and it will soon resemble one ::)

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y486/05omegav6/IMG_20130930_133308_zpsa01b3876.jpg)

Excuse the fluff ::)
I can see your dainty hands reflected in the pic ;D ;D
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: 05omegav6 on 01 October 2013, 01:59:41
 ;D

They are my hands, but an optical illusion if ever there was ::)
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: dbdb on 01 October 2013, 02:12:05
Aha it's not perfect, spotted some wear on the gear stick cloth boot. Try a black marker pen that covers it up. Must have been your polished nails when changing gear ;D
Title: Re: Real Kilometers on Omega B 2.5V6 X25XE
Post by: 05omegav6 on 01 October 2013, 02:23:53
In the words of Albs...

Far koff ;D

Vinyl doesn't wear as well as leather...