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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Nickbat on 26 May 2008, 23:58:12
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It seems like the anti-VED campaign is beginning to bear fruit... :)
Headline story on bbc.co.uk:
"The government is coming under mounting pressure from hauliers and its own MPs to change its mind on measures that threaten to raise the cost of driving.
The Labour MPs say poorer motorists will suffer most from plans to increase road taxes on more polluting cars."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7420409.stm
The rises could yet get scrapped. Fingers crossed! :y
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I have said this before, I don't think Jo public quite realised the implications, a U turn is on the way. don't tell everyone till I have updated my Mig. ;D ;D ;D
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I got my fingeres crossed :y
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Nice thought .. but don't hold your breath ..... :-/ :-/
(and being picky ... It's March 2001 that matters .... said he .. owning a Nov 2001 car .. :( )
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For older cars, should have put that in my post. :)
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A u turn may be on the cards but they will want to do it in a way that saves face.
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Nice thought .. but don't hold your breath ..... :-/ :-/
(and being picky ... It's March 2001[/b] that matters .... said he .. owning a Nov 2001 car .. :( )
Yep, you're right. Darned keyboard!! ;D ;)
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Nice thought .. but don't hold your breath ..... :-/ :-/
(and being picky ... It's March 2001[/b] that matters .... said he .. owning a Nov 2001 car .. :( )
Yep, you're right. Darned keyboard!! ;D ;)
Yes, mines dyslexic as well ;D ;D ;D
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I certainly hope the idiots U-turn, but they are so separated from reality that they may not be capable.*
Luckily the Jan 2001 example I recently bought is very straight and shiny with just 45600 miles on the clock, so I won't feel like I'm running around in an old banger unnecessarily if they do change.
* Here's an amusing melding of current with historical:
Bunker mentality (http://cityunslicker.blogspot.com/2008/05/after-hamburg-by-way-of-crewe.html)
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
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sorry to sound like a damp squid but they will not relent on this one.....
There will be a lot of fuss made about it but they will stand their ground and we will be made to pay >:(
It will of course spell the end for Labour in goverment, however they cannot see this, they have beenin power for so long now that they feel there isn't any way joe publice will vote someone else in....
Rewind 20 years, Maggie tried the same trick with poll tax, look what happened there and look how that affected her and the conservatives, today we have council tax, it has been fettled slightly but it is still the same basic princilpe as the original brief.
if the government would not reinstate the 10p tax threshold there is zero chance of this being reversed
Sorry......... :'( :'(
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I would be very surprised if they U-turn. For every motorist who would be appeased by that, there's a tree-hugger who'll be outraged. Net affect on Labour's popularity: NIL.
They'll probably introduce some means-tested gas guzzler benefit for these "poorer motorists" and thus make the system far more complicated and expensive to administer.
Kevin
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One Labour MP warned that the party also risked alienating "Mondeo man" - the name given in the past to middle-income voters Labour needs to woo if it wants to defeat the Conservatives.
Mondeo man!!
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From the BBC this morning:
...Business Secretary John Hutton told the BBC the chancellor was "listening to what people are saying about vehicle excise duty".
He must be hearing a lot of foul language! ;D
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"Over a 10 year period...I think the direction we have been going in has been clear to people at the time," she said.
... they've gone from not introducing new road tax bands retrospectively to doing exactly that. What's clear there?
The election can't come soon enough. What a bunch of muppets. >:(
Kevin
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http://www.writetothem.com/
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I sold my June-2001 regsitered Omega a few of weeks ago, after owning it for nearly 7 years... and one of the reasons I got next-to-nothing for it was that with a £400 tax next year and £25 Congestion Charge there is no demand for it (or so said the salesman). >:(
My wife's Previa is safe being a 98R though. But I am not happy about having to get rid of my Omega, and I don't believe in governmental U-turns, it is usually just for PR and the high tax eventually creeps-in elsewhere.
I think that unless you are lucky to have a car older than the arbitrary 1 March 2001 dates, then the writing is on the wall for so-called 'polluting' vehicles :(
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http://www.writetothem.com/
I wrote a long letter to my MP a few months ago when all this came out.
His response was interesting, and reading between the lines his reply was something like 'we are not happy about it, but it does raise a shedload of revenue so who are we to rock the boat'
that said it all really
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Whatever happens I shall still be driving around with glee in my £185 a year, year 2000 built, Q plated "visible smoke only" kit car with no cats. break'em. >:(
The Omega is staying if it dopesn't go seriously over the £455 mark too.
They've missed a trick really because if they hadn't been greedy and retrospectively taxed all post 2001 vehicles they could have hiked the tax to really punitive levels for new cars with top band emissions, promoting more efficient cars and shifting the balance of new cars hitting the road.
As it is, they'll always have the argument that they'll be hitting poor motorists who need a family car but can't afford a new, efficient car so they won't be able to hike it. As usual, they went for the short term option with the biggest tax take rather than the long term option that would actually reduce CO2 emissions as they claim.
Kevin
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http://www.writetothem.com/
I wrote a long letter to my MP a few months ago when all this came out.
His response was interesting, and reading between the lines his reply was something like 'we are not happy about it, but it does raise a shedload of revenue so who are we to rock the boat'
that said it all really
Ask him what he will do for a job after the next election?
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Speculation mounts:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7421171.stm
Could be a rethink in the November mini-Budget.
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Speculation mounts:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7421171.stm
Could be a rethink in the November mini-Budget.
Shows how little spine they have left. Any self respecting chancellor would simply say that those are the decisions he's made, he believes they're the right ones, tough.
As it is I suspect he's just saying that in the hope that everyone will have forgotten about it come November. Either that or he needs until November to think of another way of raising the revenue from us. >:(
Kevin
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I might look to upgrade my Omega here in germany. Any one have an Elite or a MV6 large engine going? ::) ::) ::)
Cheap fuel and no car tax :y
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the news programmes today have been reporting that m.p.,s in marginal seats have been applying pressure to have the increase cancelled.although if it is they will have to find some other way of raising the revenue.
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and yet today Mr Hutton was quoted......
Mr Hutton, speaking in Cambridge, called for "revolutions" in the transport system and in energy efficiency. He said new taxes were right because they signalled that drivers of the greenest cars would gain the most benefit.
"We have got to incentivise and encourage people to make greener choices," he said. "I think it is the right thing to do - to send a signal."
politicians.....dont you just love them, they can play lip service in a way no other occupation can
Well Mr Hutton, pay lip service to my furry a**, pucker up and kiss it you two faced slimey t***
Rant over....i'll get me coat
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Speculation mounts:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7421171.stm
Could be a rethink in the November mini-Budget.
Shows how little spine they have left. Any self respecting chancellor would simply say that those are the decisions he's made, he believes they're the right ones, tough.
As it is I suspect he's just saying that in the hope that everyone will have forgotten about it come November. Either that or he needs until November to think of another way of raising the revenue from us. >:(
Kevin
either that or he call an election on the promise of scrapping it.....how to look good in a crisis.....create a distraction with high fuel tax and road tax and then cure it by lowering it for those floating voters, secure another term in power and proceed to screw everyone with new taxes
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What about registering your cars in, say Germany and bypassing the tax altogether?!!!!
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I've got everything crossed!! Lets hope that sense prevails although I don't think this government know the meaning of the word. :-/