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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: tunnie on 24 October 2013, 17:34:46
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So my *hopeful* new place, has a brick driveway, with garage. Which is great, but I need additional parking, looking at converting front garden into another space, I'll use this one with 2.2, with 3.2 on the bricks.
A few early investigations suggest that tarmac the whole area would be around £2k + vat, money I don't really have given everything else the new place is costing.
I was thinking of two "strips" up the garden, made of gravel or similar. The issues are the inspection hatches, which I think are water/electric meters. It looks like the right hand larger hatches are metal, i need to confirm. The smaller one looks like water, so would need to avoid this as I don't think driving over it is a good idea.
Gravel the whole area maybe another idea, rather than strips? Think that would cost around £1k? :-\ (assuming DIY)
Thoughts?
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/803897/NewHouse/Driveway/2013-10-19%2017.25.04.jpg)
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Is this the new place, the new new place or the new new new place? I'm getting confused... :-\
Put them both on bricks! The neighbours will love you!! ;D ;D ;D
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Is this the new place, the new new place or the new new new place? I'm getting confused... :-\
Put them both on bricks! The neighbours will love you!! ;D ;D ;D
New place. Only been 2, first one fell through due to very stubborn owners refusing point blank our very basic requests. This one suits us better, 4 bedrooms instead of 3 and a much better garage :D
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Might be a stupid question, but do you actually NEED two cars?
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Ah, so asbestos place as opposed to tank place? ??? ::)
How about extending the block paving? :-\
Is that a 'Sold' sign? :)
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suggest you survey whats beneath both/all access covers and how deep, because you certainly don't want to damage any incoming or outgoing services !
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Might be a stupid question, but do you actually NEED two cars?
Yup, I'll be driving to work. MrsT needs a car. Plus it's nice having a spare if something goes wrong on either of them.
Ah, so asbestos place as opposed to tank place? ??? ::)
How about extending the block paving? :-\
Is that a 'Sold' sign? :)
Yes sold sign, asbestos at old place too. This one is practically brand new.
Block paving extension would look best, however I can't afford it.
suggest you survey whats beneath both/all access covers and how deep, because you certainly don't want to damage any incoming or outgoing services !
Good point, will be doing that :y
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Looks like a nice 'shag pad' Mr Tunnie. Is this the property located in wealthy and leafy Surrey? :y
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Looks like a nice 'shag pad' Mr Tunnie. Is this the property located in wealthy and leafy Surrey? :y
It is indeed :y
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So i assume, its one in the garage, one on the driveway.....can you leave one on the road next to the driveway.....no cost option imo :y
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Looks like a nice 'shag pad' Mr Tunnie. Is this the property located in wealthy and leafy Surrey? :y
It is indeed :y
....are you keeping the penthouse flat in Kensington and Chelsea? ::) ::) ::) ;)
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So i assume, its one in the garage, one on the driveway.....can you leave one on the road next to the driveway.....no cost option imo :y
Garage will be for motorbike, shelves and tools, no space for a car there too.
It's a small close, can't really park on the side, make it difficult for others to pass. Further in there are allocated bays, with visitor spots. I might see if I can sweet talk one of the neighbors into one of their spaces, in exchange for the odd beer tokens.
Just seeing what options I had with the garden :y
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Looks like a nice 'shag pad' Mr Tunnie. Is this the property located in wealthy and leafy Surrey? :y
It is indeed :y
....are you keeping the penthouse flat in Kensington and Chelsea? ::) ::) ::) ;)
Sadly no, too much profit made on the flat, needs to go to pay new place. Sold it for 25% more than what I paid for it in 2010 :o
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A full parking area may need planning permission, that may not be granted.
Drive long enough for 2 cars? Its a pain, but you soon get used to it
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A full parking area may need planning permission, that may not be granted.
Drive long enough for 2 cars? Its a pain, but you soon get used to it
Nope, hence the problem.
I guess last resort is one car & I take train it to work. Which is possible if I go from shift to 9/5
If so, buy buy 3.2!
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I have used some eggshell shaped plastic stuff that you can but down and drive over and the grass grows through it
works well.
off to google to find out what its called
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Concreting over it is no longer legal ::) if natural drainage then that must be retained, be it gravel, the product just mentioned or grass :y
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Hence just these "strips" of gravel, everything is maintained (nearly)
Interested to see what these grass things are. They spread the load I assume? :-\
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A full parking area may need planning permission, that may not be granted.
Drive long enough for 2 cars? Its a pain, but you soon get used to it
It certainly is, esp when you're wife can't reverse for toffee.
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cant do links but if you google core systems driving on grass you will find it.
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www.groundtrax.com/Ground-Protection
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Many thanks chaps :y
Hummm grass protector? Looks like it could do the job, just need to find out if those hatches could take weight. Looks like when parked no weight would be on them, but could be passed over.
Like idea of that though, looks like could just slap that down and drive on, assuming all is ok underneath. :)
Me likey :)
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A full parking area may need planning permission, that may not be granted.
Drive long enough for 2 cars? Its a pain, but you soon get used to it
It certainly is, esp when you're wife can't reverse for toffee.
Or any woman. :-\
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Those grass things are often used at airstrips for parking planes where there is no concrete apron.
MrsT use the car, you use the bike. Job jobbed.
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well I have then down and I park my omega on them with no problems at all
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Two strips of slabs?
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Is that road sign in your garden ?
funny place to put it
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Two strips of slabs?
Can they do that in Surrey.......... ::) ::)
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Is that road sign in your garden ?
funny place to put it
I think the tarmac is the road/close. The block paving is the drive? Going by initial post, anyway.
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A question in the page given below is:
Q. Do I need planning permission to install these products on my front lawn?
A. No. GrassProtecta, BodPave & TurfProtecta are all permeable paving systems and therefore are compliant with the new governmental laws regarding Sustainable Urban Drainage (SUDS)
http://www.grass-reinforcement.com/index.php/advice (http://www.grass-reinforcement.com/index.php/advice)
The price is not going to break the bank either, as the link below should be enough for 2 x 5m car tracks. :y :y :y
http://www.amazon.co.uk/BODPAVE-Pavers-plastic-reinforcement-500x500/dp/B008FYTD9C (http://www.amazon.co.uk/BODPAVE-Pavers-plastic-reinforcement-500x500/dp/B008FYTD9C)
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Is that road sign in your garden ?
funny place to put it
I think the tarmac is the road/close. The block paving is the drive? Going by initial post, anyway.
Yeah, but it looks like it would restrict access somewhat if garden was gravelled
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Just park it on the grass, and stop faffing about. :y
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Not wishing to rain on the parade, but is that area actually big enough to get two Omegas on side by side and still leave space to get to the front door :-\
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Two strips of slabs?
Can they do that in Surrey.......... ::) ::)
Could when I lived there (Horley) ::) ::) ;)
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Two strips of slabs?
Can they do that in Surrey.......... ::) ::)
Could when I lived there (Horley) ::) ::) ;)
Is Horley not posh then?............... ;) ;)
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Depends which side of the A23 you live :y north of it is mostly domesticated pikies :-X
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Not wishing to rain on the parade, but is that area actually big enough to get two Omegas on side by side and still leave space to get to the front door :-\
Only need to park one on the grass/front. As mentioned there is a brick paved space in front of the garage.
Close is private. Hence sign on front lawn, does not bother me :y
Thanks for heads up on planning permission, also cost. Looking like a very good option. :)
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A question in the page given below is:
Q. Do I need planning permission to install these products on my front lawn?
A. No. GrassProtecta, BodPave & TurfProtecta are all permeable paving systems and therefore are compliant with the new governmental laws regarding Sustainable Urban Drainage (SUDS)
http://www.grass-reinforcement.com/index.php/advice (http://www.grass-reinforcement.com/index.php/advice)
The price is not going to break the bank either, as the link below should be enough for 2 x 5m car tracks. :y :y :y
http://www.amazon.co.uk/BODPAVE-Pavers-plastic-reinforcement-500x500/dp/B008FYTD9C (http://www.amazon.co.uk/BODPAVE-Pavers-plastic-reinforcement-500x500/dp/B008FYTD9C)
Many, many thanks for this. Awesome! :y :y :y
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A question in the page given below is:
Q. Do I need planning permission to install these products on my front lawn?
A. No. GrassProtecta, BodPave & TurfProtecta are all permeable paving systems and therefore are compliant with the new governmental laws regarding Sustainable Urban Drainage (SUDS)
http://www.grass-reinforcement.com/index.php/advice (http://www.grass-reinforcement.com/index.php/advice)
The price is not going to break the bank either, as the link below should be enough for 2 x 5m car tracks. :y :y :y
http://www.amazon.co.uk/BODPAVE-Pavers-plastic-reinforcement-500x500/dp/B008FYTD9C (http://www.amazon.co.uk/BODPAVE-Pavers-plastic-reinforcement-500x500/dp/B008FYTD9C)
Many, many thanks for this. Awesome! :y :y :y
That does seem the best way to be the way to go, he just got their first............ ;) ;)
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Looks like two others beat me to it. :P
I was also going to suggest grasscrete! :y
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marshall-Grasscrete-Blocks-/221293985723?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3386263fbb (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marshall-Grasscrete-Blocks-/221293985723?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3386263fbb)
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Looks like two others beat me to it. :P
I was also going to suggest grasscrete! :y
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marshall-Grasscrete-Blocks-/221293985723?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3386263fbb (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marshall-Grasscrete-Blocks-/221293985723?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3386263fbb)
Thanks Nick. :y
Not considered any of these types of base, like idea if these. Even more so no planning approvals needed. Just plonk this stuff down and park my 2.2 on it :D
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Depends which side of the A23 you live :y north of it is mostly domesticated pikies :-X
Lived on south of A23 :y
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Good choice :y
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I would say that the paving would look best, and I know you can't afford it..........yet!
I would lay the concrete that will eventually hold the paving (which you can lay later once you can afford it) but like TB said, check that you can do it without PP. The presence of a dropped kerb helps your case but best to be sure :y
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Surface water drainage
requirements obligations might put paid to that idea :-\
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/pavingfrontgarden/
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easy answer here -
lay gravel where you need extra parking - no planning or building regs issue
cost will be a couple of hundred for materials tops - just get weed proof membrane and a couple of dumpy bags of gravel - job done
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easy answer here -
lay gravel where you need extra parking - no planning or building regs issue
cost will be a couple of hundred for materials tops - just get weed proof membrane and a couple of dumpy bags of gravel - job done
It would end up everywhere. All over the road, on the block paving and on the grass.
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Yes, you can either do a proepr job or go the gravel/matting solution.
A proper job will require planning (as its needed for areas over 6m2 from memory and includes refurbishment of existing drives, a LOT of companies are breaking the law with the paving work they do and it can impact the homeowner as a result)
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Yes, you can either do a proepr job or go the gravel/matting solution.
A proper job will require planning (as its needed for areas over 5m2 from memory and includes refurbishment of existing drives, a LOT of companies are breaking the law with the paving work they do and it can impact the homeowner as a result)
Fixed :y see link in my last :y
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Ah very good, pretty close though.
The major issue with a gravel or other basic solution is that you dont have a subbase so do expect annual work over a few yars whilst the ground under the area setlles with traffic.
As always, Mr McCormacks Paving Expert is your friend and reference:
http://www.pavingexpert.com/
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When ours was done, the area was dug down slightly, levelled and compacted. Weed suppressant membrane over the top and then a 75mm layer of gravel dumped on top.
Obviously no use for jacking a car on, but fine for parking. Being a slight slope it needs raking back up the slope periodically, and now after nearly 10 years, the membrane is starting to rot, so needs redoing really :-\
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I still think Grasscrete/Grassblock is the way to go.
From the linked brochure:
Why Grassblock?
Grassblock permits natural drainage through its network of soil pockets. This enables it to be
used as a Sustainable Urban Drainage System (SUDS). A permeable paving system that can
enable exemption from domestic Planning Applications.
http://www.bpindex.co.uk/res/pdfs/b519f49b409003.pdf (http://www.bpindex.co.uk/res/pdfs/b519f49b409003.pdf)
Would need to be double checked with your local authority, though, just to be on the safe side. :y
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Again thanks everyone. :y
In an ideal world I'd go through planning and get it brick paved, just like the current drive.
As always, Mr McCormacks Paving Expert is your friend and reference:
http://www.pavingexpert.com/
Already posted there, great resource from my earlier questions on that drainage tank :)
They gave figure of around £2k +vat. (for tarmac) + planning costs for the whole area. Money I don't have at the moment, this move is taking everything I have. :'(
This grassblock looks interesting, here I can see they have just extended the drive. But in my case I could make two tracks for the tyres.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBSXJoMyPpw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBSXJoMyPpw)
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If I dug two "trenches" for this grassblock stuff, prepared the base for it. (sharpe sand or similar?)
Then put these blocks in, then filled with soil/grass seed, would that require planning permission? :-\
Also remember it is on an un-adpoted road, so I would need to consultant the management company for the close, but does the council need to know? :-\
I'm not converting the whole area, and drainage is hardly affected.
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If I dug two "trenches" for this grassblock stuff, prepared the base for it. (sharpe sand or similar?)
Then put these blocks in, then filled with soil/grass seed, would that require planning permission? :-\
Also remember it is on an un-adpoted road, so I would need to consultant the management company for the close, but does the council need to know? :-\
I'm not converting the whole area, and drainage is hardly affected.
That in itself will be an interesting exercise to see how much control they exert over the residents on your close. :-\
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If I dug two "trenches" for this grassblock stuff, prepared the base for it. (sharpe sand or similar?)
Then put these blocks in, then filled with soil/grass seed, would that require planning permission? :-\
Also remember it is on an un-adpoted road, so I would need to consultant the management company for the close, but does the council need to know? :-\
I'm not converting the whole area, and drainage is hardly affected.
That in itself will be an interesting exercise to see how much control they exert over the residents on your close. :-\
Don't see any issue, current owner has already made changes to the house :y
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If I dug two "trenches" for this grassblock stuff, prepared the base for it. (sharpe sand or similar?)
Then put these blocks in, then filled with soil/grass seed, would that require planning permission? :-\
Also remember it is on an un-adpoted road, so I would need to consultant the management company for the close, but does the council need to know? :-\
I'm not converting the whole area, and drainage is hardly affected.
Ok so need a more hard core base as seen here, but essentially very do-able DIY. Dig trench, rock base, soil, compact out, lay these things on top.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKcIPrJE6rQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKcIPrJE6rQ)
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That would be considered a SUDS compatible solution.
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That would be considered a SUDS compatible solution.
This stuff looks good for that too:
http://www.acomarkant.com/grassgrid.htm (http://www.acomarkant.com/grassgrid.htm)
What I like about that, is it can be cut. So going around the inspection hatches for meters would not be a problem. Clearly shows install too, a bedding layer, sand then these units.
Found a price of:
366 x 274 x 100mm GRASS GRID - 10 blocks per sq.m @ £2.86, assume thats £2.86 per block/grid?
Being the stupid techy with lacking real world practical skills :-[ - How much sq.m would I need for two trenches on the earlier photo? :-\ (clearly ball park figures here)
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Again thanks everyone. :y
In an ideal world I'd go through planning and get it brick paved, just like the current drive.
As always, Mr McCormacks Paving Expert is your friend and reference:
http://www.pavingexpert.com/
Already posted there, great resource from my earlier questions on that drainage tank :)
They gave figure of around £2k +vat. (for tarmac) + planning costs for the whole area. Money I don't have at the moment, this move is taking everything I have. :'(
This grassblock looks interesting, here I can see they have just extended the drive. But in my case I could make two tracks for the tyres.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBSXJoMyPpw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBSXJoMyPpw)
Shouldn't be a problem to find this type of money.
Less than a week's wages, I would think. :)
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from the .gov planning permission website:
You will not need planning permission if a new or replacement driveway of any size uses permeable (or porous) surfacing which allows water to drain through, such as gravel, permeable concrete block paving or porous asphalt, or if the rainwater is directed to a lawn or border to drain naturally.
I've highlighted the relevant bit.
You could put down whatever size and type of drive you like as long as it drains into a flower bed or lawn - rather than running off into the street, or next doors ::)
dig out a 3ft wide trench, 3ft deep, as long as you like.
Fill it 2ft deep with brick rubble, then 4in of pea gravel+sand, then 8in of soil.
make sure your drive is sloped so water goes onto this area.
Plant up with cheap plants - cos when you wash the car, the detergents will kill them :( (DAMHIKT)
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Another advantage with the grass mat approach is that you will still have a lawn area, in keeping with what is there already. :y.
You have the size of the panels, so just work out how many you need each side, allowing for the fact that the first one will have an angled cut-off.
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Again thanks all :y
As a car would be parked there a fair bit, I can see even grass matt causing lawn to change fair bit.
I think that grass grid would be best, I looks simple to install, dig down, put a support layer and base rubble layer down, followed by sand and all compacted down.
Now thinking "yellow" colored gravel to match the brick, should look quite smart :)
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Base rubble is rubbish you need MT1
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Grass off, compact the soil and fit astroturf :y
Job jobbed ::)
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Base rubble is rubbish you need MT1
If that was in reply to my post earlier, I was suggesting it as a soakaway, not as a base for a drive.
Or is MT1 better for that, as well?
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Base rubble is rubbish you need MT1
Sorry to sound stupid :-[ :-[ - But what is that in terms of B&Q/Jewsons ect? :-\
Reading up they also suggested a fabric material type stuff, to go down first? Then some base layer, then sharp sand?
Grass off, compact the soil and fit astroturf :y
Job jobbed ::)
Would just compacted soil be enough to support the weight of an Omega constantly parked on it? :-\
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Grass off, compact the soil and fit astroturf :y
Job jobbed ::)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Astro-turf-Artificial-Grass-hockey-10m-x-4-5m-SUMMER-SALE-2-WEEKS-ONLY-/281191847177?pt=UK_H_G_Garden_Plants_Landscaping_Garden_Materials_ET&hash=item4178571509 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Astro-turf-Artificial-Grass-hockey-10m-x-4-5m-SUMMER-SALE-2-WEEKS-ONLY-/281191847177?pt=UK_H_G_Garden_Plants_Landscaping_Garden_Materials_ET&hash=item4178571509)
A good Tunnie sized bargain :y should be enough left for the back garden as well...
Can sell the real grass as turf too :y
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Cheers Al, however given the size of the front garden, I think I could afford to splash out for new.
http://www.grass-direct.co.uk/artificial-grass.html?gclid=CIP8xJf_troCFQrJtAod1AQA0A (http://www.grass-direct.co.uk/artificial-grass.html?gclid=CIP8xJf_troCFQrJtAod1AQA0A)
Verdure or Miami looks like it would do job fine, just concerned about only compacted soil being strong enough :-\
Also does it drain well? :-\
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Football clubs seem to manage ok with it :-\
The car will compact the soil anyway, but you have a better chance of minimising that if you pack it down first with a layer of something ontop of the soil, as suggested for other surfaces :y
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Football clubs seem to manage ok with it :-\
That's for players though, not constant 2ton parked on it :-\
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Football clubs seem to manage ok with it :-\
That's for players though, not constant 2ton parked on it :-\
Was refering to the drainage :y but in reality, you're only parking on it, not doing rally cross ::)
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Football clubs seem to manage ok with it :-\
That's for players though, not constant 2ton parked on it :-\
Was refering to the drainage :y but in reality, you're only parking on it, not doing rally cross ::)
Ah sorry yes, true massive area rain appears ok with it.
Certainly another option, the turf is really new, so I reckon that could be lifted withouth too much problem.
Once lifted I'd be tempted to get one of these for the day:
http://www.jewson.co.uk/tool-hire/compaction/plate-compactors/products/2495/lightweight-plate-compactor-350mm/ (http://www.jewson.co.uk/tool-hire/compaction/plate-compactors/products/2495/lightweight-plate-compactor-350mm/)
Decisions Decisions, that kind of route or digging couple of trenches for Grassgrid + gravel :-\ :-\ :-\
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Or buy a place with sufficient parking...
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Or buy a place with sufficient parking...
It does have it, just needs to be converted ::)
Gaining so much more, this was a compromise. But can be overcome :y
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Or buy a place with sufficient parking...
It does have it, just needs to be converted ::)
Gaining so much more, this was a compromise. But can be overcome :y
Now, a proper tunnie bodge would be to get a couple of scaffolding planks, lay them parallel on the grass already there and park on them, cheap too :y :D
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Sorry to sound stupid :-[ :-[ - But what is that in terms of B&Q/Jewsons ect? :-\
Reading up they also suggested a fabric material type stuff, to go down first? Then some base layer, then sharp sand?
Would just compacted soil be enough to support the weight of an Omega constantly parked on it? :-\
Forget the sheds, use the local builders merchant, generaly cheaper and delivery is better.
As per the paving expert website, the geotex membrane is also available from the builders merhcants.
As for MT1, thats ministry of transport type 1 sub base material, its a specialy graded mix of crusher run that when compacted forms a solid base. Crusher run, recylced concrete, hardcore etc is not even close to as good for a solid base.
And yes, just driiving it onto the grass with nothing under it will result in ruts over a pretty short space of time.
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Forget the sheds, use the local builders merchant, generaly cheaper and delivery is better.
Agreed, ignore at your peril :y
You go into the store, pay and they order the stuff for you. It then gets picked at the suppliers, usually in cubic yard bags. These are then palletised and sent out on the cheapest pallet service available. A week later, once you've forgotten about it, a 30ft truck will appear in your road with a pump truck and a taillift. If you're really lucky and the run to your drive is smooth and basically level, then your delivery will be put in front of your garage door. Any kerbs, gravel or block paving and you'll be spending two days with a spade and a wheel barrow shifting it from the road side. Same applies to internet orders, even direct from suppliers, and especially if delivery is free or cheap :-\
Always buy bulk material from builders merchants. If you clear the ground before you order it, the local builders merchant will drop the bags over the wall with a HIAB, no fuss, no drama.
B&Q etc are great for late weekend 'Oh bugger I forgot to get...,' moments or little projects, but they are quite disconnected from a delivery perspective...
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or do like I did, and order a 10T tipper (100 quid, delivered), and have it tipped straight on the drive.
Then spend the next six months spreading it round the garden. and giving away the other 12 Tonnes ::)
Seems that I paid for 10T, but he sent a full 38T tipper. ::)
The base under my 20ft x 20ft workshop is over 2ft deep hardcore!
Actual spread of MOT1 or road planings, or hardcore in general is
1Tonne = 2cu m
or 5 sq m at 4" thick (ie, 3ft wide,15ft long)
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22 tons from memory of MT1 for my subabse on the drive, delivery on two tippers.
MT1 is the only thing that will give a reliable and proven subbase though
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I'm actually really confused by that -
I've checked a few websites, and they all say, roughly, 1Tonne =2 cu m, compacted.
But water is 1 Tonne = 1 cu m.
So Compacted MOT1 is half the density of water ???
Why doesn't it float?
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Air gaps which will fill with water when submerged :y
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I'm actually really confused by that -
I've checked a few websites, and they all say, roughly, 1Tonne =2 cu m, compacted.
But water is 1 Tonne = 1 cu m.
So Compacted MOT1 is half the density of water ???
Why doesn't it float?
Other way round, 2 ton of MT1 equals 1m2 when compacted
http://www.pavingexpert.com/calcall.htm#focus14
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See, that's what I thought...
but:
http://www.grabtrucks.com/aggregatewhat/mottype1_crushedconcrete/ (http://www.grabtrucks.com/aggregatewhat/mottype1_crushedconcrete/)
says the opposite ::)
then I read paving expert, and that seems to confirm - cept I can't add up ::)
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If you use the calculator and put in 10m2 at 100mm depth you get two tons.
Which is what you would expect given the denisty of the crushed stone compared to that of the water.
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If you use the calculator and put in 10m2 at 100mm depth you get two tons.
Which is what you would expect given the denisty of the crushed stone compared to that of the water.
did that - but 1m2 at 1000mm depth.
it was on another page - 5m2 at 100mm depth - I think I worked out 100mm = 12inches :-[
I've been working in imperial/US for the last month, and think my brain is misfiring
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Thanks Chaps :y
Knew get answers here :)
So, a rough plan would be:
1) Dig two long "trenches" for the wheels to run along
2) Line each trench with a geo-textile product, just loose pushed in?
3) Fill with correct depth of MT1 (hehe matches my initials)
4) Use a tamper to compact down manually, think petrol 'wacker' would be OTT.
5) top off with sharp sand to correct amount, again tamper down
6) Put these grass-grid things down, hopefully they rest at same level as rest of the garden.
7) Fill with gravel.
Done? Two strips for wheels to drive along, with good base to support the car and good drainage complying with SUDS regs
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Of course, you could simply park the car on the grass ::)
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Of course, you could simply park the car on the grass ::)
It may well come to that ::) ;D
But like to do things right these days :o
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Thanks Chaps :y
Knew get answers here :)
So, a rough plan would be:
1) Dig two long "trenches" for the wheels to run along
2) Line each trench with a geo-textile product, just loose pushed in?
3) Fill with correct depth of MT1 (hehe matches my initials)
4) Use a tamper to compact down manually, think petrol 'wacker' would be OTT.
5) top off with sharp sand to correct amount, again tamper down
6) Put these grass-grid things down, hopefully they rest at same level as rest of the garden.
7) Fill with gravel.
Done? Two strips for wheels to drive along, with good base to support the car and good drainage complying with SUDS regs
Amend 7) ... to 1/2 fill with gravel
8) top up with top-soil
9) sow with a hard wearing grass seed.
You will end up with what looks like a lawn, but has the strength you need for the car, and "if" you have got the grid things level with the rest of the surface, the mower will run across the top easily .. :)
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Yep. And all your neighbours will start parking on the grass cos they think you are and it's ok. Then they'll sink and you will laugh at them. Then they will hate you and you'll have to move. Be careful Tunnie. :o
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Yep. And all your neighbours will start parking on the grass cos they think you are and it's ok. Then they'll sink and you will laugh at them. Then they will hate you and you'll have to move. Be careful Tunnie. :o
And that is where it starts, it won't be long before it looks like an 'Estate'......... ;) ;)
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Thanks Chaps :y
Knew get answers here :)
So, a rough plan would be:
1) Dig two long "trenches" for the wheels to run along
2) Line each trench with a geo-textile product, just loose pushed in?
3) Fill with correct depth of MT1 (hehe matches my initials)
4) Use a tamper to compact down manually, think petrol 'wacker' would be OTT.
5) top off with sharp sand to correct amount, again tamper down
6) Put these grass-grid things down, hopefully they rest at same level as rest of the garden.
7) Fill with gravel.
Done? Two strips for wheels to drive along, with good base to support the car and good drainage complying with SUDS regs
Amend 7) ... to 1/2 fill with gravel
8) top up with top-soil
9) sow with a hard wearing grass seed.
You will end up with what looks like a lawn, but has the strength you need for the car, and "if" you have got the grid things level with the rest of the surface, the mower will run across the top easily .. :)
Considered that, but wonder if grass would struggle. For example at weekends, it could be parked on there for 2 days, so no light for the grass. :-\
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Yep. And all your neighbours will start parking on the grass cos they think you are and it's ok. Then they'll sink and you will laugh at them. Then they will hate you and you'll have to move. Be careful Tunnie. :o
And that is where it starts, it won't be long before it looks like an 'Estate'......... ;) ;)
As it's un-adopted, there are rules for where people can park :y
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Yep. And all your neighbours will start parking on the grass cos they think you are and it's ok. Then they'll sink and you will laugh at them. Then they will hate you and you'll have to move. Be careful Tunnie. :o
And that is where it starts, it won't be long before it looks like an 'Estate'......... ;) ;)
As it's un-adopted, there are rules for where people can park :y
Which probably preclude parking on the grass ::)
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Yep. And all your neighbours will start parking on the grass cos they think you are and it's ok. Then they'll sink and you will laugh at them. Then they will hate you and you'll have to move. Be careful Tunnie. :o
And that is where it starts, it won't be long before it looks like an 'Estate'......... ;) ;)
As it's un-adopted, there are rules for where people can park :y
Which probably preclude parking on the grass ::)
In communal areas yes, but mine is only one with a decent front garden :) - It's my land :)
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Thanks Chaps :y
Knew get answers here :)
So, a rough plan would be:
1) Dig two long "trenches" for the wheels to run along
2) Line each trench with a geo-textile product, just loose pushed in?
3) Fill with correct depth of MT1 (hehe matches my initials)
4) Use a tamper to compact down manually, think petrol 'wacker' would be OTT.
5) top off with sharp sand to correct amount, again tamper down
6) Put these grass-grid things down, hopefully they rest at same level as rest of the garden.
7) Fill with gravel.
Done? Two strips for wheels to drive along, with good base to support the car and good drainage complying with SUDS regs
Amend 7) ... to 1/2 fill with gravel
8) top up with top-soil
9) sow with a hard wearing grass seed.
You will end up with what looks like a lawn, but has the strength you need for the car, and "if" you have got the grid things level with the rest of the surface, the mower will run across the top easily .. :)
Considered that, but wonder if grass would struggle. For example at weekends, it could be parked on there for 2 days, so no light for the grass. :-\
Seeding it is good advice, it will still grow and as said, keep to same height and easy to mow.............. :y :y
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We're not allowed a pikey palace or chickens... go figure ::)
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You need a Wacker to compact it
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We're not allowed a pikey palace or chickens... go figure ::)
So using an old pikey palace as a chicken coop would be frowned upon then? ??? ::) ;D
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You need a Wacker to compact it
Thanks. :y :y
Apart from that got everything right?
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About there, I know a man who owns a petrol plate compactor
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Talking of pikey palaces Tunnie, you should make your vehicle pad big enough to park a caravan on. :)
When the little Tunnies start popping out and you decide caravanning is the way to go for your family holidays, you'll be all sorted!! :y
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About there, I know a man who owns a petrol plate compactor
When abouts are they based?
Talking of pikey palaces Tunnie, you should make your vehicle pad big enough to park a caravan on. :)
When the little Tunnies start popping out and you decide caravanning is the way to go for your family holidays, you'll be all sorted!! :y
;D :D ;D
MrsT hates caravans as much as I do :D
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Talking of pikey palaces Tunnie, you should make your vehicle pad big enough to park a caravan on. :)
When the little Tunnies start popping out and you decide caravanning is the way to go for your family holidays, you'll be all sorted!! :y
Why clutter up the front lawn when he can always borrow TBs. ::)
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About there, I know a man who owns a petrol plate compactor
When abouts are they based?
Talking of pikey palaces Tunnie, you should make your vehicle pad big enough to park a caravan on. :)
When the little Tunnies start popping out and you decide caravanning is the way to go for your family holidays, you'll be all sorted!! :y
;D :D ;D
MrsT hates caravans as much as I do :D
In Nottingham, its sat in my garage