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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Richie London on 29 May 2008, 20:47:31
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try this lets see what your total pootprint is
http://actonco2.direct.gov.uk/index.html
richie
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home 2.2
appliances 1.27
travel 6.33
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couldnt give a monkeys tbh,gave up on religion a long time ago ,and not interested in their new one. ;)
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couldnt give a monkeys tbh,gave up on religion a long time ago ,and not interested in their new one. ;)
Darned right, Albitz! Pure greenwash.
Al Gore and his mob are ruining this world. >:( >:(
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38.9 tonnes a year!!! o dear!!! i must try to cut down!!!
should be 10 something!
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Home: 1.06tons
Appliances: 0.94tons
Transport: 16.07tons
Plenty of room for improvement... (need to bring home and appliances up to match transport :P )
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chuck out yer fridges lets have a hot dry summer :y ;D
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It didn't ask me for extra fridges, as I have 2 beer fridges too. Also, I have more than 1 printer...
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Hmmmmmm ours is 12 tonnes for a family of four. And they say the national average is 10 tonnes.
I smell a rat here.
Mike
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It didn't ask me for extra fridges, as I have 2 beer fridges too. Also, I have more than 1 printer...
regulary stocked and emptied at will i presume ;D ;D ;D
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home 2.2
appliances 1.27
travel 6.33
I'm with albitz. but for what it's worth:
home : 9.42
appliances : 1.65
travel : 7.47
I love the leading questions though. Journeys of less than a mile are done by? I depends what time of day it is & what you're going out for. Your tea would be cold by the time you got home if you were walking to the chippy/currie house & back! ;)
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house 2.8 tonnes
applicances co2 which is a pollution Martin! - 0.97 tones year
transport co2 - 7.7 tones
:D
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Transport: 16.07tons .......
Do you all drive Hummers to work & back?
Mine was only 7.47 & that was for 3 cars & a boke between 2 of us.
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I'd love to shove my 16 tonnes right up Fatty's jacksie, then his lower jaw could quiver all it liked >:(
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;D ;D ;D ;D :y.....like it
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4, 2, 4.5 :-[
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I feel a rant coming on:
Global warming is an utter hoax.
Dr. Timothy Ball, Chairman of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project, and former climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg, has written a series of articles on the IPCC (CanadaFreePress.com). He contends that UN structures were designed to prove human CO2 emissions were responsible for global warming, with the political purpose of causing the demise of industrialized nations.
Not sure about that?
Well I'm sure few here in the UK know that the US Congress is about to debate the Lieberman_Warner Bill which would impose cap-and-trade mandates on anything that generates carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions and that pretty much includes everything involving energy use, including backyard barbecuing.
A study by the Heritage Foundation predicts the following consequences if the bill is passed:
# The impact on the economy would be horrendous. Heritage estimates that cumulative gross domestic product (GDP) losses of at least $1.7 trillion that could reach $4.8 trillion by 2030 (in inflation-adjusted 2006 dollars).
# Single-year GDP losses of at least $155 billion that could exceed $500 billion (in inflation-adjusted 2006 dollars).
# Annual job losses that would exceed 500,000 before 2030 and could exceed a million.
# The annual cost of emission permits to energy users to cost at least $100 billion by 2020.
# The average household will pay $467 more each year for its natural gas and electricity (in inflation-adjusted 2006 dollars). That means that the average household will spend an additional $8,870 to purchase energy over the period 2012 to 2030.
OK, so you may think well that's in the US, so who cares? There's an old saying that when the US sneezes we catch a cold. It will have a very negative effect on the UK economy
We need the Czech president Vaclav Klaus to take over. This Tuesday he said he is ready to debate Al Gore about global warming, as he presented the English version of his latest book that argues environmentalism poses a threat to basic human freedoms.
'I many times tried to talk to have a public exchange of views with him, and he's not too much willing to make such a conversation,' Klaus said. 'So I'm ready to do it.'
Klaus was speaking a the National Press Building in Washington to present his new book, Blue Planet in Green Shackles - What Is Endangered: Climate or Freedom?, before meeting with Vice President Dick Cheney Wednesday.
'My answer is it is our freedom and, I might add, and our prosperity,' he said.
I am literally aghast at the stupidity of our "leaders" who are about to wreck our economies on something (man-made global warming theory) with which 31,000 scientists - yes, 31,000 - disagree.
Makes me mad... >:( >:( >:(
RANT OVER
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quite a few entrepenuers getting rich out of it and the treasury have created a whole new gravy train from it. >:(
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I wonder how much tax payer's money went into creating that pointless web site? Gave up when I was expected to go round the house counting light bulbs. >:(
Kevin
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House 3 tons
Appliance 1.5 tons (nothing about game consoles or home cinema)
Travel 4.2 tons (no LPG!!!! yet has stupid Hybred - I suppose to add the CO2 from battery manufacture)
8.83 total - should be lower (LPG)
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I'm making this point - sod the CO2 what about your gas and electric bills?
I have always been under average billing by careful use of appliances and heating - saves money.
Most of mine was the car ;D ;D
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well i personally dont give a toss about cutting my emissions when the goverment is planning on increasing flights by 25% over the next 15 yrs. with a 6th terminal already being planned to coincide with the new runway. flights will be increased from 480 thou a yr to 650 thou then maximum to 702 thous by 2030,
Heathrow is the world's busiest international airport.
It is also one of the world's most poorly sited airports. It was built in a heavily populated area and is surrounded by houses on three sides.
Planes fly overhead 24 hours a day causing serious health and social problems.
Noise
Over half a million people are exposed to noise levels over double World Health Organisation standards.
Air pollution
Thousands of people suffer air pollution exceeding EU health limits.
Danger
Planes flying directly over people's homes make Heathrow one of the most dangerous airports in the world.
Traffic
Heathrow generates more road traffic than any other development in the UK.
Homes and heritage
A new runway would destroy over 700 homes, including mine.
co2 emissions are not subject to any limits as they were not included in the kyoto protocol.
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they are planning a similar extension at stansted. :(
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.. and my hobby (Gliding) is under threat because the CAA are trying to force anything that flies to carry transponders. Their main argument is that it will be needed to support the projected 90% increase in commercial air traffic before 2025.
One rule for us, quite another for them. >:(
Kevin
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Martins plans
Go nuclear
Electrify the last few unwired main lines.
Stop replacing electric locos with imported not very efficient Diesels (as opposed to the efficient British ones which are mothballed)
Build a high speed line from London to Scotland via Birmingham and the north west along the lines of the French TGV lines
Sort out congestion by
1) Better light timing
2) Better driving education
3) Free road tax for motorbikes.
4) Tax incentives for small bikes capable of over 80mpg
5) Dropping artifically slow limits and bring in a minimum limit for busy roads to allow autos to lock up
6) Encourage flexible working
Flights - tax them a lot at the airports - encourage people to use railways - which are as quick or quicker on medium length journeys.
Any other ideas?
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i now live 2 miles from heathrow, was just a mile away 2 yrs ago, i didnt sleep for a yr when i first moved in, was worse when i was on nights with concorde taking off, had to get brahms most nights to knock me self out ::) ;D ;D ;D
now i live next door to a rather pub, and ded opposite a police stn,worse >:( >:(
richie
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well i personally dont give a toss about cutting my emissions when the goverment is planning on increasing flights by 25% over the next 15 yrs. with a 6th terminal already being planned to coincide with the new runway. flights will be increased from 480 thou a yr to 650 thou then maximum to 702 thous by 2030,
Heathrow is the world's busiest international airport.
It is also one of the world's most poorly sited airports. It was built in a heavily populated area and is surrounded by houses on three sides.
Planes fly overhead 24 hours a day causing serious health and social problems.
Noise
Over half a million people are exposed to noise levels over double World Health Organisation standards.
Air pollution
Thousands of people suffer air pollution exceeding EU health limits.
Danger
Planes flying directly over people's homes make Heathrow one of the most dangerous airports in the world.
Traffic
Heathrow generates more road traffic than any other development in the UK.
Homes and heritage
A new runway would destroy over 700 homes, including mine.
co2 emissions are not subject to any limits as they were not included in the kyoto protocol.
Sorry, totally not true :
"In the 1930s, London Heathrow Airport was a small grass airfield known as the Great Western Aerodrome. The Great Western Aerodrome was used for test flying. It was owned by the Fairey company. London's passenger flights used nearby airfields at Heston and Hanworth Park."
As in 99% of commercial airfields, this started as a small field in the country and grew, then folks wanted to live near where they work, so houses get built, then shops, then schools etc etc etc. The airfield existed way before the development.
Most of the present complaints are from the NIMBY fraternity, and if plans to close Heathrow were published the screaming over lost jobs/income would be deafening
You can't have your cake and eat it.
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travel is 72.2 for me in the V8 ;D ;D ;D ;D
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:o :o.......you really need to repent and hug some trees ;D
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your right, first civilian flight was 1st jan 1946 to beunos aires. and it already had 3 runways too. well spotted :y :y :y
richie
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i now live 2 miles from heathrow, was just a mile away 2 yrs ago, i didnt sleep for a yr when i first moved in, was worse when i was on nights with concorde taking off, had to get brahms most nights to knock me self out ::) ;D ;D ;D
now i live next door to a rather pub, and ded opposite a police stn,worse >:( >:(
richie
Now that mush make up for the flying buses