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Title: Sky reception query
Post by: Terbs on 28 October 2013, 21:28:28
Hi all...

Probably been asked before, but....

Why can't I receive sky when it rains. I get a message saying my sky box is not connected whenever it rains heavy.
 :'(
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: Broomies Mate on 28 October 2013, 21:34:12
If it is very heavy rain, then that is the unfortunate price you pay for having a Satellite signal to rely on.

If it happens frequently with light rain, then your LNB is either misaligned (heavy wind a slight possibility) or you require a replacement LNB.  :y
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: MR MISTER on 28 October 2013, 21:37:25
It used to happen to me quite a lot. After lots of complaints I finally got a bigger dish and new LNB. hasn't happened since.
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: chrisgixer on 28 October 2013, 21:38:54
Poorly aligned dish I'd bet.

Or there's a line of sight problem. Might need special heights team to raise the dish up over trees or buildings.
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: MR MISTER on 28 October 2013, 21:40:36
Quote from: chrisgixer tall enough=118921.msg1509013#msg1509013 date=1382996334
Poorly aligned dish I'd bet.

Or there's a line of sight problem. Might need special heights team to raise the dish up over trees or buildings.
But these trees are only tall enough to interfere with the signal when it rains. OK?  ;D
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: chrisgixer on 28 October 2013, 22:01:40
Quote from: chrisgixer tall enough=118921.msg1509013#msg1509013 date=1382996334
Poorly aligned dish I'd bet.

Or there's a line of sight problem. Might need special heights team to raise the dish up over trees or buildings.
But these trees are only tall enough to interfere with the signal when it rains. OK?  ;D

Yes I can see why you can't cope with fixing omegas. ::)

 If the signal is say 25% down due to an obstruction,  it take 25% less rain to block the remaining good signal, for example. Numb nuts. ;D

 At 50% loss you'll get channels disappearing etc.

Signal strength needs to be between 25 and 75%. Get it? :P

Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: Vamps on 28 October 2013, 22:02:18
Quote from: chrisgixer tall enough=118921.msg1509013#msg1509013 date=1382996334
Poorly aligned dish I'd bet.

Or there's a line of sight problem. Might need special heights team to raise the dish up over trees or buildings.
But these trees are only tall enough to interfere with the signal when it rains. OK?  ;D

Don't worry he is from the South all their trees have fallen over in the breeze .......... ;) ;)
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: Vamps on 28 October 2013, 22:04:33
Quote from: chrisgixer tall enough=118921.msg1509013#msg1509013 date=1382996334
Poorly aligned dish I'd bet.

Or there's a line of sight problem. Might need special heights team to raise the dish up over trees or buildings.
But these trees are only tall enough to interfere with the signal when it rains. OK?  ;D

Yes I can see why you can't cope with fixing omegas. ::)

If the signal is say 25% down due to an obstruction,  it take 25% less rain to block the remaining good signal, for example. Numb nuts. ;D

 At 50% loss you'll get channels disappearing etc.

Signal strength needs to be between 25 and 75%. Get it? :P

Who are you trying to convince? not Steve for sure............ :D :D
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: Broomies Mate on 28 October 2013, 22:05:54
Quote from: chrisgixer tall enough=118921.msg1509013#msg1509013 date=1382996334
Poorly aligned dish I'd bet.

Or there's a line of sight problem. Might need special heights team to raise the dish up over trees or buildings.
But these trees are only tall enough to interfere with the signal when it rains. OK?  ;D

Tree's gain a lot of density when it rains.  Just sayin'
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: chrisgixer on 28 October 2013, 22:09:18
I guess it depends what village your in. ::)
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: tunnie on 28 October 2013, 23:01:59
Poor dish setup  :y
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: 05omegav6 on 28 October 2013, 23:29:27
It used to happen to me quite a lot. After lots of complaints I finally got a bigger dish and new LNB. hasn't happened since.
I just can't picture you complaining about anything. Ever. ;D
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: Vamps on 28 October 2013, 23:39:15
It used to happen to me quite a lot. After lots of complaints I finally got a bigger dish and new LNB. hasn't happened since.
I just can't picture you complaining about anything. Ever. ;D

Quite agree, Steve is certainly not the type of person who would offer an opinion that went against the general view........... ;) ;)
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: Terbs on 28 October 2013, 23:41:55
I have just looked at the signal settings and both input 1 and 2 are about 75% and Quality on both is about 50%. Does that mean the dish has moved. I assume all the grey lines are supposed to be 100%  :y
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 October 2013, 23:42:42
Now, that Gixer fella isn't usually known for his electron herding prowess but he's hit the nail on the head. :y

You lose a bit of signal strength by having a misaligned dish. You lose a little more by having a non-ideal dish location with trees in the way. You lose a surprising amount when the atmosphere is full of rain at the frequencies we are considering. If you lose enough signal, it stops working. So, no one thing is to blame. If you've got a decent install working optimally, a bit of rain won't take it out, but if something's not ideal (you may or may not be able to do anything about it), you may well find the weather tips it over the edge.
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: chrisgixer on 29 October 2013, 00:04:47
Nail on head?

Re signal strength? Or certain nuts being a bit numb among the membership? ;D


I have zero understanding of electrons but even I know that much, aye Esta? :o
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: Vamps on 29 October 2013, 00:18:52
Now, that Gixer fella isn't usually known for his electron herding prowess but he's hit the nail on the head. :y

You lose a bit of signal strength by having a misaligned dish. You lose a little more by having a non-ideal dish location with trees in the way. You lose a surprising amount when the atmosphere is full of rain at the frequencies we are considering. If you lose enough signal, it stops working. So, no one thing is to blame. If you've got a decent install working optimally, a bit of rain won't take it out, but if something's not ideal (you may or may not be able to do anything about it), you may well find the weather tips it over the edge.

This just seems to prove what I said years ago, modern stuff, sat or free view is affected by the weather, we never had this problem in the recent past, mind we only had 3 channels..... ;) ;)
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: 05omegav6 on 29 October 2013, 00:24:07
Had a perfect signal all night here. Not so much as a flicker :-\

Good job really as I couldn't sleep for the racket ::)
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: Kevin Wood on 29 October 2013, 00:26:58
This just seems to prove what I said years ago, modern stuff, sat or free view is affected by the weather, we never had this problem in the recent past, mind we only had 3 channels..... ;) ;)

The fact of the matter with analogue TV is that it degraded gradually. Someone with a poor antenna setup would get a noisy signal, but get used to it. Digital TV is affected no more or less by the weather (it's the same frequency allocation, after all), but when it starts to degrade, it goes from perfect to unwatchable with nothing in-between. Overall, it's a lot better than analogue, though.
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 October 2013, 00:32:40

we never had this problem in the recent past, mind we only had 3 channels..... ;) ;)

Glad to hear you northerners have joined the modern world, the last few weeks must have been a revelation!!  :P  :D  ;D
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 29 October 2013, 00:36:36
Hi all...

Probably been asked before, but....

Why can't I receive sky when it rains. I get a message saying my sky box is not connected whenever it rains heavy.
 :'(
dont complaine to sky they wont do anything about it unless you pay for a call out . never had it with the old dish  :y as long as sky get your mone they wont do anything :y
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 29 October 2013, 00:37:46
This just seems to prove what I said years ago, modern stuff, sat or free view is affected by the weather, we never had this problem in the recent past, mind we only had 3 channels..... ;) ;)

The fact of the matter with analogue TV is that it degraded gradually. Someone with a poor antenna setup would get a noisy signal, but get used to it. Digital TV is affected no more or less by the weather (it's the same frequency allocation, after all), but when it starts to degrade, it goes from perfect to unwatchable with nothing in-between. Overall, it's a lot better than analogue, though.
its not better >:(
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: Steve B on 29 October 2013, 02:14:30
Why are you lot giving money to sky (learn a little computer skills)  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: chrisgixer on 29 October 2013, 05:34:56
Now, that Gixer fella isn't usually known for his electron herding prowess but he's hit the nail on the head. :y

You lose a bit of signal strength by having a misaligned dish. You lose a little more by having a non-ideal dish location with trees in the way. You lose a surprising amount when the atmosphere is full of rain at the frequencies we are considering. If you lose enough signal, it stops working. So, no one thing is to blame. If you've got a decent install working optimally, a bit of rain won't take it out, but if something's not ideal (you may or may not be able to do anything about it), you may well find the weather tips it over the edge.

This just seems to prove what I said years ago, modern stuff, sat or free view is affected by the weather, we never had this problem in the recent past, mind we only had 3 channels..... ;) ;)
Still learned nothing Vamps? 5 channels and, THEY'RE GOING TO SWITCH THEM ALL OFF VERY SOON, DEAR. ...YES, THERES SOMETHING BETTER BEEN INVENTED. ;) ;)



(Poor love, gone a bit deaf you know ::) )
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: Andy H on 29 October 2013, 08:56:52
Hi all...

Probably been asked before, but....

Why can't I receive sky when it rains. I get a message saying my sky box is not connected whenever it rains heavy.
 :'(
We have got a Humax Freesat unit.

We bought it because terrestrial TV cuts out due to rain and leaves on the trees and we wanted to see if satellite was any better.

The satellite reception carries on working in the heaviest rain but I did have to get it perfectly aligned (compass and spirit level to get the initial set up and then up and down the ladder with slight tweaks up/down & left/right to get the optimum signal strength/quality)
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 29 October 2013, 09:31:08
In which case your tv install has the same issues as the original posters sat dish!

As for the issue, call sky and tell them about your issues, explain that money is tight and given the service disruptions you are considering canceling the subscription.....they will have somebody out at zero cost pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: AndyRoid on 29 October 2013, 09:38:01
Now, that Gixer fella isn't usually known for his electron herding prowess but he's hit the nail on the head. :y

His explanation impressed me as well, top marks to Chris  :y  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sky reception query
Post by: pauls on 29 October 2013, 10:10:51
Now, that Gixer fella isn't usually known for his electron herding prowess but he's hit the nail on the head. :y

His explanation impressed me as well, top marks to Chris  :y  ;D ;D

He must have read it some where. ;D