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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: jay99 on 29 October 2013, 01:12:06
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Hello, sorry for creating another thread as I did not get any replies, I'm about to order a cam sensor but not sure on what type.
The car is a Omega W reg 2.0L 16V Manual GLS
Does the cam sensor connector plug have square or rounded corners on my car? How do I check this as I can't remove the cam cover myself without removing the belts and I'll probably cause more damage. I really don't want to get this wrong just in case of the mechanic opening everything up only to find that I've provided him with the wrong part.
If the type of connector cannot be ascertained by the model, how can I check this without dismantling everything?
Thanks for you help!
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You do not need to remove the cam belt cover to solve the round or square corner plug question. All you need to do is remove the plate labelled ECOTECH that covers the plugs, after removing the two screws. The cam sensor lead plugs into the sensor at the front of the slot thus revealed. Using a torch. work out how the plastic clip works, release it with a screwdriver, and pull the lead off the sensor. Then you can see whether the plug and socket are round or square. When satisfied you can easily push it back on again.
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A VX dealer should be able to provide the correct sensor from the VIN/chassis number.
Not much point in fitting a pattern cam sensor as they usually cause trouble so best advice is to get the sensor from a VX dealer.
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Whatever can go wrong, will go wrong.
Today was possibly the worst day of my life. I decided to check the cam sensor and did not have a screwdriver to hand. I decided to use my one and only car key (lost the other one) and use that to prise the sensor up. It did come off and I have the rounded corner version only for me to find that I had snapped the metal part of the key and it fell through the hole where the cam sensor is. The car is on double yellow lines and no doubt by tomorrow morning the warden will probably have attached many many tickets on it.
Went to the key cutting shop who said they would need to order a new one which would take over a week and would be very expensive. If I find the bit they can make a copy and attach it to the keyfob.
I will now have to get someone out to take apart the cam cover/belt to retrieve the key, don't know if its even possible and don't know which nook it has managed to get into. I now have to take off the belt/cam cover not only for they but also for the cam sensor fitting. Can't get to a garage either.
I do not deserve to be in ownership of a car. My stupidity never ceases to amaze me. This is the second time I've broken something (the wipers first) and I am so annoyed with myself. The car hates me and I feel like crying.
WHY ME :'(
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Whatever can go wrong, will go wrong.
Today was possibly the worst day of my life. I decided to check the cam sensor and did not have a screwdriver to hand. I decided to use my one and only car key (lost the other one) and use that to prise the sensor up. It did come off and I have the rounded corner version only for me to find that I had snapped the metal part of the key and it fell through the hole where the cam sensor is. The car is on double yellow lines and no doubt by tomorrow morning the warden will probably have attached many many tickets on it.
Went to the key cutting shop who said they would need to order a new one which would take over a week and would be very expensive. If I find the bit they can make a copy and attach it to the keyfob.
I will now have to get someone out to take apart the cam cover/belt to retrieve the key, don't know if its even possible and don't know which nook it has managed to get into. I now have to take off the belt/cam cover not only for they but also for the cam sensor fitting. Can't get to a garage either.
I do not deserve to be in ownership of a car. My stupidity never ceases to amaze me. This is the second time I've broken something (the wipers first) and I am so annoyed with myself. The car hates me and I feel like crying.
WHY ME :'(
Sorry mate but I think you've answered your own question in the previous paragraph ::)
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I think sometimes its cheaper to get the right tool for the job,and to be honest,why use the only key for the car you have as a lever/screwdriver,it will and has ended in a problem,only good thing is you know what sensor you need,now go and get a telescopic magnet tool,and recover the bit of the key,atleast you can then get a new blade cut asap :y
Change your location from uk to where you are,there could be a member near you that may be able to assist.
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never use your keys for prying mate......but you've learned now lol
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How do I fix the key? I'm no where near a garage.
I have the immobilizer key fob bit which is the most important. Is there any way of getting a diagram or code number so the locksmith can cut a new key?
Is there any way of hotwiring it? Can I push start it? I don't think getting a tow off my dad would work as the steering wheel would lock without the key.
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Easiest solution.ask the breakers on here to send you a lock set and petrol cap,its going to be quicker to change locks than to wait weeks for new key.
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Thanks for your quick replies
The telescopic magnet is a good idea but I think the key has further fallen. I could see it through the hole but when I shut the bonnet, opened it up again the key had gone. Does anyone know if it can fall through the cam belt bit right to the bottom? The magnet on maplins bay be a little big to fit through the whole and if it does I think the cam sensor may need to be prised further to make it fit (oh the irony)
If not I'll take a hack saw and remove a big chunk of the plastic cam cover. Anything is better than spending £££ on new key/locks
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This is going to end in tears,cuts through cam cover and also cambelt,,get a cheap socket set and remove cam cover....
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This is going to end in tears,cuts through cam cover and also cambelt,,get a cheap socket set and remove cam cover....
So if I buy a socket set will I also be able to remove the belt with it as well?
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Head hurts time for bed........................
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Have you read the guide? 'how to' 2.2 Ecotec cam sensor (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90628.0)
Head hurts time for bed........................
Same here....
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Where are you located :-X
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Join recovery company
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Where are you located :-X
::) ::) ::)
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Wonder if car got towed away as parked on double yellow lines lol
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Wonder if car got towed away as parked on double yellow lines lol
It did not get towed away haha. I only got a parking ticket which I will be taking to court as I put a polite note in the windscreen and they put one on anyway. May get a note from the locksmith.
Anyway what happened today was that I pulled open the cam cover and broke it slightly to get a good view. The key ended up sat in one of the two things that spin the cambelt. After much effort with a coat hanger that didn't turn out so well (made the problem worse) I then did something that was complete and utter genius. I put some super glue on my middle finger, prised my fat hand in the gap between the the cam cover and got my middle to touch the key through those little holes. Waited for it to dry and the key came out and I was chuffed.
The car is still parked there and hopefully I should be able to get the locksmith to make a new key or stick it back together.
Crisis averted.
And after all that I think I have the confidence to perform the cam sensor change. Looks easy, get a socket set, loosen and remove the belt and remove cam cover, swap sensor and put everything back together again hopefully. Thanks Andy H for that guide.
I am learning valuable lessons here so I've put it all down to extra experience, and I apologise if I caused anyones head to hurt and I am grateful for your help.
*btw I did get some superglue on the belt and the spinning thing wiped it off immediately though not sure if anything will happen
Thanks :D
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Will the locksmith get your finger in the cutting machine ;D
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Jeez - I though I got into a predicaments!!
Just did my cam sensor - only takes 45 mins and I'm an amateur! As previously mentioned - don't go for non genuine. I got a facet sensor (usually a good brand) but it brought all kinds of faults up. Had to spend £80 on a genuine one and all problems solved (oh and don't believe all the outlets who claim "genuine" - only go to Vx to get one.
Don't think you will have much luck with the ticket though - double lines equal never park there, unless you can somehow lie and pretend you actually broke down whilst driving and couldn't go anywhere else.
Good luck with it all!