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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: jay99 on 03 November 2013, 14:47:59

Title: Ignition barrel the wrong way.....
Post by: jay99 on 03 November 2013, 14:47:59
Hello

After getting my new key from the locksmith, the key would not turn and the steering lock would not disengage. I had a look at the maintenance guides and decided the best way was to file some of those numbered brass bits. Instead of removing the whole ignition barrel, I simply removed the steering wheel housing, put a screwdriver in the lock and pulled the damn thing out. I have cleaned the thing, non of the brass bits are protruding and the key is in fine. The problem is I can't put the small barrel bit back in as it won't go in and when looking into the barrel there are some small springs that just sit there. I can not push it in no matter how hard I push and wiggle.

What do I do now?

Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Ignition barrel the wrong way.....
Post by: Shackeng on 03 November 2013, 16:36:57
If the steering lock has engaged, you will need to depress the spring loaded lug at the back of the housing. :y
Title: Re: Ignition barrel the wrong way.....
Post by: Shackeng on 03 November 2013, 16:38:31
Hello

After getting my new key from the locksmith, the key would not turn and the steering lock would not disengage. I had a look at the maintenance guides and decided the best way was to file some of those numbered brass bits. Instead of removing the whole ignition barrel, I simply removed the steering wheel housing, put a screwdriver in the lock and pulled the damn thing out. I have cleaned the thing, non of the brass bits are protruding and the key is in fine. The problem is I can't put the small barrel bit back in as it won't go in and when looking into the barrel there are some small springs that just sit there. I can not push it in no matter how hard I push and wiggle.

What do I do now?

Thanks for your help.

Having just done mine I don't recall these. Can you take a pic and post it? :-\

Title: Re: Ignition barrel the wrong way.....
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 November 2013, 16:48:29
Might I be so bold as to suggest that you neen to...

a) remove the remnants as per the guide

and

b) obtain a new barrel.

If you're lucky you won't have knackered the housing on the column :-\
Title: Re: Ignition barrel the wrong way.....
Post by: jay99 on 03 November 2013, 17:04:10
Well after much poking and prodding nothing would work.

I simply removed the barrels and the grease from the cylinder using a hammer and screwdriver, and have decided to use a flat blade screwdriver to start the car which does the job just fine until I can get a proper new cylinder and keys.


I have the key fob which has the immobiliser chip in it which starts the car and it locks/closes the doors/boot. So its still secure even if someone breaks in wouldn't be able to take off with hit, hence not taping the chip to the barrel.



So I'm sorted now

Thanks!!! (wish I had done this before rather than spending all that time retrieving the missing piece of the key which didn't work anyway and getting a parking ticket in the process :'(

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Ignition barrel the wrong way.....
Post by: Andy B on 03 November 2013, 17:44:05
It appears that there's the correct way & Jay's way in all things Omega  ::)  ::)  ::)  ;)
Title: Re: Ignition barrel the wrong way.....
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 November 2013, 17:49:58
Steering column to the Wanted Section... :-X
Title: Re: Ignition barrel the wrong way.....
Post by: jay99 on 03 November 2013, 20:05:53
haha it still works though and if ever I need to thieve a car I know what to do! ;)*** REMOVED****
Silly design and if the car did not have an immobiliser then who knows....

Anyway what do I need now to replace everything?

I was thinking of just a new barrel and some keys.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-I-KEY-IGNITION-BARREL-CASING-IGNITION-BARREL-BLACK-BOX-DOOR-LOCK-/331041492416?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4d139c4dc0

Will this do?


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Calibra-Cavalier-111-Omega-or-Vectra-Ignition-Barrel-and-Keys-90512000-/171153947705?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega&hash=item27d991fc39

Or will this do?


I wish I never started this in the first place should have just left the cam sensor well alone!!!!
Title: Re: Ignition barrel the wrong way.....
Post by: martin42 on 03 November 2013, 20:13:28
And youve just posted on a public forum how to do the ignition barrell so some scum bag can give it ago and cost the owner of a car,loss of money,etc thats very clever,im just glad i keep 1 of my cars locked up in a garage......
Title: Re: Ignition barrel the wrong way.....
Post by: jay99 on 03 November 2013, 20:17:12
And youve just posted on a public forum how to do the ignition barrell so some scum bag can give it ago and cost the owner of a car,loss of money,etc thats very clever,im just glad i keep 1 of my cars locked up in a garage......

I do apologise. I did not realise the consequences.

Duly removed.
Title: Re: Ignition barrel the wrong way.....
Post by: symes on 03 November 2013, 20:23:51
what about broken glass from getting in car to begin with  ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Ignition barrel the wrong way.....
Post by: dbug on 03 November 2013, 20:44:24
Oh and the transponder (immobiliser chip) is not in the fob, its in the horseshoe (key) ;)
Title: Re: Ignition barrel the wrong way.....
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 November 2013, 23:41:16
First may be, second unlikely.

But mostly, you stand a fair chance of having knackered the housing on the steering column, so best budget for one of those too :-X