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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Andy B on 25 November 2013, 13:16:31
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I live in a 4 bed detached house. In the main, there's just me & SWMBO along with guest appearances from my daughter. ;)
I get both gas & electric from Eon and am currently paying what I think is an inordinate amount for them. I pay £107 (leccy) & £86 (gas) a month. We have two electric showers but don't ever use the tumble dryer. I can't think of anything unusual in our leccy usage compared with what others might use. In the last 12 months I use 18000 kWh of gas & 9000 kWhs of leccy
I'd be interested to hear what others are paying. :-\
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2 bed semi with EON. £109 a month duel fuel, but that will rise as I'm only one month into a two year fix and they haven't adjusted the DD yet. My heating is on constant, hot water as I need it (and thats lots with my two). Electric cooker.
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Just left a 1 Bed flat in London, it was built in 1936 so about as efficient as TB's exercise. The walls were feking freezing in the winter, the boiler was bit pants too, we had it on a fair amount. Also it was a combi, so on-demand for hot water.
Bills when I left, it was £40/m gas £30/m leccy.
Just about to move to a 4 bed detached house (assuming all goes well) - Met current owners last week, both gas and leccy combined were around £90/m
However, it is new build with solar panels.
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Ours is around 120 a month for the combined bill.
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I think I'm paying for the street ;D ;D ;D
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I think I'm paying for the street ;D ;D ;D
Nah, it'll be that hydroponics setup you have in the loft ::) ;D
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I think I'm paying for the street ;D ;D ;D
When I lived in Liverpool we got all our leccy from the street. ;D
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I think I'm paying for the street ;D ;D ;D
Nah, it'll be that hydroponics setup you have in the loft ::) ;D
shhhhhhhhhh! ::) ;)
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I live in a 4 bed detached house. In the main, there's just me & SWMBO along with guest appearances from my daughter. ;)
I get both gas & electric from Eon and am currently paying what I think is an inordinate amount for them. I pay £107 (leccy) & £86 (gas) a month. We have two electric showers but don't ever use the tumble dryer. I can't think of anything unusual in our leccy usage compared with what others might use. In the last 12 months I use 18000 kWh of gas & 9000 kWhs of leccy
I'd be interested to hear what others are paying. :-\
seems expensive for size of house. Would have thought £130 a month combined. Do you have cavity wall insulation etc, double glazing - high ceilings?
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I live in a 4 bed detached house. In the main, there's just me & SWMBO along with guest appearances from my daughter. ;)
I get both gas & electric from Eon and am currently paying what I think is an inordinate amount for them. I pay £107 (leccy) & £86 (gas) a month. We have two electric showers but don't ever use the tumble dryer. I can't think of anything unusual in our leccy usage compared with what others might use. In the last 12 months I use 18000 kWh of gas & 9000 kWhs of leccy
I'd be interested to hear what others are paying. :-\
seems expensive for size of house. Would have thought £130 a month combined. Do you have cavity wall insulation etc, double glazing - high ceilings?
Double glazing & some insulation in the loft, but no cavity wall. Just standard 7' 6" ceilings
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I live in a 4 bed detached house. In the main, there's just me & SWMBO along with guest appearances from my daughter. ;)
I get both gas & electric from Eon and am currently paying what I think is an inordinate amount for them. I pay £107 (leccy) & £86 (gas) a month. We have two electric showers but don't ever use the tumble dryer. I can't think of anything unusual in our leccy usage compared with what others might use. In the last 12 months I use 18000 kWh of gas & 9000 kWhs of leccy
I'd be interested to hear what others are paying. :-\
seems expensive for size of house. Would have thought £130 a month combined. Do you have cavity wall insulation etc, double glazing - high ceilings?
Double glazing & some insulation in the loft, but no cavity wall. Just standard 7' 6" ceilings
My parents had cavity wall stuff put in, it made a huge, huge difference! Combined with double glazing it was a vast improvement. Also had much better loft insulation put in, last time I went up there, it was warm in the house, but freezing in the loft. How it should be!
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I think I'm paying for the street ;D ;D ;D
When I lived in Liverpool we got all our leccy from the street. ;D
Why am I not suprised :y you probably still do ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
3 bed 1930's semi comes in at £100 per month for joint bill. No cavity walls(double brick), double glazing, masses of loft insulation and usual white goods, gas cooker and combi boiler.
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My parents had cavity wall stuff put in, it made a huge, huge difference! Combined with double glazing it was a vast improvement. Also had much better loft insulation put in, last time I went up there, it was warm in the house, but freezing in the loft. How it should be!
I've been dubious of cavity wall ...... :-\ :-\ :-\
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4 Bed house here with 2 occupants.
Currently on about 17k KWH gas for the last year and 5k leccy and it's just over £100 monthly IIRC.
House was built in 1998 and has whatever insulation was mandated at that time.
Your leccy consumption looks high given that we use it for all cooking, all laundry is tumble dried, lounge is often heated using an electric fire, I have a server that runs 24/7 and the place is plastered with "always on" gadgets.
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My parents had cavity wall stuff put in, it made a huge, huge difference! Combined with double glazing it was a vast improvement. Also had much better loft insulation put in, last time I went up there, it was warm in the house, but freezing in the loft. How it should be!
I've been dubious of cavity wall ...... :-\ :-\ :-\
Can't say for every type of house, but with my parents (build 1989) it was the biggest single improvement, based on that I'd highly recommend it. If the house we bought did not have it, with first one that was the case, it was going to be fitted :y
Fairly cheap too at the time, think it was via a grant thing, so peanuts to install. Although not sure if its so easy now :-\
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Sounds high to me, too..
4 bed house, 2 occupants (unless you count two cats and three hamsters) - most laundry is tumble dried, there are two 8-bay NAS's permanently on along with a Mac Mini and HP Microserver, the (electricity eating) kitchen lights get left on a lot and it's a 1970 build with next to no loft insulation and nothing in the cavity but fresh air - it does have double glazing, however.
I'm paying £145/mo combined..
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Thanks all for your replies ...... Eon are doing a meter check in the next few weeks (another meter fitted parallel with ours as a comparison) so we'll see what happens.
Ta :y
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don't confuse what you are paying with what is your actual consumption and cost. Check how much you have in credit - I bet it is a big figure they owe you.
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I live in a 4 bed detached house. In the main, there's just me & SWMBO along with guest appearances from my daughter. ;)
I get both gas & electric from Eon and am currently paying what I think is an inordinate amount for them.(gas) a mon I pay £107 (leccy) & £86 th. We have two electric showers but don't ever use the tumble dryer. I can't think of anything unusual in our leccy usage compared with what others might use. In the last 12 months I use 18000 kWh of gas & 9000 kWhs of leccy
I'd be interested to hear what others are paying. :-\
Might be worth switching, Andy.
It is far easier than it used to be.........about ten minutes. :y
We've just moved from EDF to Scottish Power and will save about £250 a year. :y
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As pscocoa said, maybe worth seeing what credit you are in, gas wise I got to £100 in credit, so they (British Gas) sent me £100 back last year :o
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don't confuse what you are paying with what is your actual consumption and cost. Check how much you have in credit - I bet it is a big figure they owe you.
I'd need to find the last statement, but I usually get any large amounts of credit back when/if I notice
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I live in a 4 bed detached house. In the main, there's just me & SWMBO along with guest appearances from my daughter. ;)
I get both gas & electric from Eon and am currently paying what I think is an inordinate amount for them.(gas) a mon I pay £107 (leccy) & £86 th. We have two electric showers but don't ever use the tumble dryer. I can't think of anything unusual in our leccy usage compared with what others might use. In the last 12 months I use 18000 kWh of gas & 9000 kWhs of leccy
I'd be interested to hear what others are paying. :-\
Might be worth switching, Andy.
It is far easier than it used to be.........about ten minutes. :y
We've just moved from EDF to Scottish Power and will save about £250 a year. :y
I phoned them earlier asking re cheaper deals. They could knock off a massive £100 a YEAR from my bills! ;D ;D ;D
I'll wait till I see any result of my meter check & then see
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As pscocoa said, maybe worth seeing what credit you are in, gas wise I got to £100 in credit, so they (British Gas) sent me £100 back last year :o
But this is the time of year when you'd expect to be in credit to some degree ie paying over the odds during the summer when the bills are likely to be lower :)
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True, but about 2 years ago I was still £100 in credit come summer. Just saying it's worth checking, as everyone else has indicated that is a very large bill. :)
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I am owed about £400 but the billing model of the suppliers is variable - i.e. some do not adjust on monthly meter reading but wait for the end of a 6 month period - this causes a lot of confusion.
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Normally I'm falling over energy statements, but the last leccy I can find is for last Jan when I was about £20 in credit :-\
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Supplier aside, you are using the same amount of gas as my reasonably efficient house and loads more electricity, so this is where you need to focus, IMHO. Yes, cavity wall insulation is a good step if you don't already have but, but unless the lion's share of that electricity consumption goes on space heating, I can't see it addressing the real problem.
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Yes, insulation etc only generaly helps gas costs for most GCH houses.
Electricity consumption seems the area to focus, classic 'hidden' consumers can be older fridges/freezers (as the coolant leaks over time the motor ends up running 24/7 and guzzling energy), loft lighting, pond pumps etc, all lower energy users but running for long periods of time.
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Yes, insulation etc only generaly helps gas costs for most GCH houses.
Electricity consumption seems the area to focus, classic 'hidden' consumers can be older fridges/freezers (as the coolant leaks over time the motor ends up running 24/7 and guzzling energy), loft lighting, pond pumps etc, all lower energy users but running for long periods of time.
Hmmmm....what do you reckon a PlayStation, a Wii, a sky box, an LCD TV, a PC and a monitor would use on standby?
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Electricity consumption seems the area to focus, classic 'hidden' consumers can be older fridges/freezers (as the coolant leaks over time the motor ends up running 24/7 and guzzling energy), loft lighting, pond pumps etc, all lower energy users but running for long periods of time.
The Fridge is a reasonably recent 7 or 8 yr okld Samsung RS21J??? half & half fridge freezer, my 'loft lighting' is a bulb in a cable that I plug in on the landing when I venture up there, no ponds or pumps
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Yes, insulation etc only generaly helps gas costs for most GCH houses.
Electricity consumption seems the area to focus, classic 'hidden' consumers can be older fridges/freezers (as the coolant leaks over time the motor ends up running 24/7 and guzzling energy), loft lighting, pond pumps etc, all lower energy users but running for long periods of time.
Hmmmm....what do you reckon a PlayStation, a Wii, a sky box, an LCD TV, a PC and a monitor would use on standby?
No Playstation, Wii or Sky box, but telly, HD recorder & surround/radio/DVD/CD player on stand-by
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Yes, insulation etc only generaly helps gas costs for most GCH houses.
Electricity consumption seems the area to focus, classic 'hidden' consumers can be older fridges/freezers (as the coolant leaks over time the motor ends up running 24/7 and guzzling energy), loft lighting, pond pumps etc, all lower energy users but running for long periods of time.
Hmmmm....what do you reckon a PlayStation, a Wii, a sky box, an LCD TV, a PC and a monitor would use on standby?
No Playstation, Wii or Sky box, but telly, HD recorder & surround/radio/DVD/CD player on stand-by
I was just thinking about my lad's bedroom. He spends his life up there with that lot on.
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Yes, insulation etc only generaly helps gas costs for most GCH houses.
Electricity consumption seems the area to focus, classic 'hidden' consumers can be older fridges/freezers (as the coolant leaks over time the motor ends up running 24/7 and guzzling energy), loft lighting, pond pumps etc, all lower energy users but running for long periods of time.
Hmmmm....what do you reckon a PlayStation, a Wii, a sky box, an LCD TV, a PC and a monitor would use on standby?
No Playstation, Wii or Sky box, but telly, HD recorder & surround/radio/DVD/CD player on stand-by
I was just thinking about my lad's bedroom. He spends his life up there with that lot on.
Surely for you it is laundry costs - washing machine and tumble dryer etc must be on 24/7 with that amount of dirty bed linen?
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Yes, insulation etc only generaly helps gas costs for most GCH houses.
Electricity consumption seems the area to focus, classic 'hidden' consumers can be older fridges/freezers (as the coolant leaks over time the motor ends up running 24/7 and guzzling energy), loft lighting, pond pumps etc, all lower energy users but running for long periods of time.
Hmmmm....what do you reckon a PlayStation, a Wii, a sky box, an LCD TV, a PC and a monitor would use on standby?
No Playstation, Wii or Sky box, but telly, HD recorder & surround/radio/DVD/CD player on stand-by
I was just thinking about my lad's bedroom. He spends his life up there with that lot on.
As & when my daughter is home, the most she seems to use is the telly (our old CRT 28" - half killed me taking it upstairs :o) and her laptop
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Switch everything off and see if the meter is still going round? ;)
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Switch everything off and see if the meter is still going round? ;)
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Switch everything off and see if the meter is still going round? ;)
;D ;D ;D ;D
Also check for a large cable leading to your next door neighbour. :y
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I know i live on my own in a 3 bed terrace.....but my combined bill/month is about £75
30+ yo boiler, thats hardly energy efficient ;D
I always use the tumble drier.......i have one of those energy consumption gadgets.....it recorded the 15yo washing machine used 500w on a 40c wash and the tumble dryer, 2kw to dry the load.
One big difference i did notice.....2 years ago i swapped my 30yo (probably) fridge freezer to a sparkly new one (bigger fridge, same size freezer), that swap knocked about £10/month off the leccy bill....and the new one runs a lot colder than the old one (1c fridge -21c freezer). Ive also noticed the food in fridge stays fresher for longer.....so less food gets chucked :y
You need to change your outside porch light to a low energy bulb.....that'll make a huge difference ;D
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EON just dropped mine to £100pm, but I reckon that was in response to them getting notification that I'd flicked them the V, as I'm only just in credit at the start of the winter.
Now fixed for 3 years with another company, paying less than I was before I decided to leave EON. Had a bit of an energy drive over the past 3 or 4 years, thus managing to keep my bills more or less stable. Not much shite on 24/7, just the OOF server and associated network kit, 1 fridge freezer (the really old one in the garage won't go on again ;D), Media Center in standby, alarm clocks etc
Toying with changing the fridge freezer, as its almost 13yrs old now, and during the fire when the power was lost, warmed up to -11C - not too bad, but not as good as it could be. It wasn't a particularly energy efficient model when we bought it, as few frost free ones were at the time.
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forgot about our freezer in the garage ..... it's intended to be a built in under the work top type - no idea what it is, I was given it.
Outside light is a 50w (something like this (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20-x-Gu10-Halogen-Lamp-Light-Bulbs-50W-Reflector-/370765295968?pt=UK_Light_Bulbs&hash=item5653557160) Maybe we need a led type ::)
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Yes, insulation etc only generaly helps gas costs for most GCH houses.
Electricity consumption seems the area to focus, classic 'hidden' consumers can be older fridges/freezers (as the coolant leaks over time the motor ends up running 24/7 and guzzling energy), loft lighting, pond pumps etc, all lower energy users but running for long periods of time.
Hmmmm....what do you reckon a PlayStation, a Wii, a sky box, an LCD TV, a PC and a monitor would use on standby?
Does it matter where your local council's lighting bill is paying for it. ::) :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D
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One of our freezers came from Iceland ( the shop not the country) at least 25 years ago. I dread to think how energy inefficient it is but the bloody thing refuses to die. Even after being stood out in the elements one winter about 10 years ago.
I suspect theres now a sentimental attachment to it as it really would make sense to replace it. ::)
Energy bill was £77 but now fixed for 3 years at around £95.
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EON just dropped mine to £100pm, but I reckon that was in response to them getting notification that I'd flicked them the V, as I'm only just in credit at the start of the winter.
Now fixed for 3 years with another company, paying less than I was before I decided to leave EON. Had a bit of an energy drive over the past 3 or 4 years, thus managing to keep my bills more or less stable. Not much shite on 24/7, just the OOF server and associated network kit, 1 fridge freezer (the really old one in the garage won't go on again ;D), Media Center in standby, alarm clocks etc
Toying with changing the fridge freezer, as its almost 13yrs old now, and during the fire when the power was lost, warmed up to -11C - not too bad, but not as good as it could be. It wasn't a particularly energy efficient model when we bought it, as few frost free ones were at the time.
My new one is "totally frost free", so its says on the front.....and its true, unlike the old one, always looking like an ice block ;D and being a pain to defrost it every year :(
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EON just dropped mine to £100pm, but I reckon that was in response to them getting notification that I'd flicked them the V, as I'm only just in credit at the start of the winter.
Now fixed for 3 years with another company, paying less than I was before I decided to leave EON. Had a bit of an energy drive over the past 3 or 4 years, thus managing to keep my bills more or less stable. Not much shite on 24/7, just the OOF server and associated network kit, 1 fridge freezer (the really old one in the garage won't go on again ;D), Media Center in standby, alarm clocks etc
Toying with changing the fridge freezer, as its almost 13yrs old now, and during the fire when the power was lost, warmed up to -11C - not too bad, but not as good as it could be. It wasn't a particularly energy efficient model when we bought it, as few frost free ones were at the time.
My new one is "totally frost free", so its says on the front.....and its true, unlike the old one, always looking like an ice block ;D and being a pain to defrost it every year :(
Last couple I've had have been frost free, they do what they say on the tin.... ....if your daft missus doesn't ram it so full that the door opens, and the fan ices up ;D
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Get one of these and go round all your appliances:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Plug-In-Power-and-Energy-Monitor/dp/B000Q7PJGW (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Plug-In-Power-and-Energy-Monitor/dp/B000Q7PJGW)
It is a bit of an eye opener. It's not always true that modern stuff is energy efficient.
Oh, and if you have a Sky box, turn the thing off at the wall. Standby mode on those things is meaningless. It'll be up half the night trying to phone uncle Rupert to spy on you.
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Get one of these and go round all your appliances:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Plug-In-Power-and-Energy-Monitor/dp/B000Q7PJGW (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Plug-In-Power-and-Energy-Monitor/dp/B000Q7PJGW)
It is a bit of an eye opener. It's not always true that modern stuff is energy efficient.
Oh, and if you have a Sky box, turn the thing off at the wall. Standby mode on those things is meaningless. It'll be up half the night trying to phone uncle Rupert to spy on you.
How accurate are the monitors that the energy companies give you, that clamp on the incoming 100A feed?
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How accurate are the monitors that the energy companies give you, that clamp on the incoming 100A feed?
Most of them aren't great because they only measure current, so reactive power (which you don't pay for) is counted, and they are poor at estimating your background consumption. (Many devices on standby take very little real power but have large switched mode power supplies just idling, so have a poor power factor.)
The nice thing about plugin devices like this is that you can check individual appliances, and average the consumption over long periods, which is essential if you're measuring a fridge, for example. They also tell you current, voltage, real and reactive power, power factor and kWh used over time.
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Yes, insulation etc only generaly helps gas costs for most GCH houses.
Electricity consumption seems the area to focus, classic 'hidden' consumers can be older fridges/freezers (as the coolant leaks over time the motor ends up running 24/7 and guzzling energy), loft lighting, pond pumps etc, all lower energy users but running for long periods of time.
Hmmmm....what do you reckon a PlayStation, a Wii, a sky box, an LCD TV, a PC and a monitor would use on standby?
Does it matter where your local council's lighting bill is paying for it. ::) :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D
No good up here then, the council are going to turn 5000 street lights off........ :( :(
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They are doing the same in Essex. An open season for criminals. >:(
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Yes, insulation etc only generaly helps gas costs for most GCH houses.
Electricity consumption seems the area to focus, classic 'hidden' consumers can be older fridges/freezers (as the coolant leaks over time the motor ends up running 24/7 and guzzling energy), loft lighting, pond pumps etc, all lower energy users but running for long periods of time.
Hmmmm....what do you reckon a PlayStation, a Wii, a sky box, an LCD TV, a PC and a monitor would use on standby?
Does it matter where your local council's lighting bill is paying for it. ::) :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D
No good up here then, the council are going to turn 5000 street lights off........ :( :(
And here... ...to save on gas :P
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I live in a 4 bed detached house. In the main, there's just me & SWMBO along with guest appearances from my daughter. ;)
I get both gas & electric from Eon and am currently paying what I think is an inordinate amount for them. I pay £107 (leccy) & £86 (gas) a month. We have two electric showers but don't ever use the tumble dryer. I can't think of anything unusual in our leccy usage compared with what others might use. In the last 12 months I use 18000 kWh of gas & 9000 kWhs of leccy
I'd be interested to hear what others are paying. :-\
4 Bed detached, 2 old farts only, 19500 KWh gas last year, 3945 KWh Elect. (but I have solar panels.) Currently paying £118 pcm to SSE via M&S, to whom I recently swapped. I change suppliers every year provided I get a better deal. :y
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I live in a 4 bed detached house. In the main, there's just me & SWMBO along with guest appearances from my daughter. ;)
I get both gas & electric from Eon and am currently paying what I think is an inordinate amount for them. I pay £107 (leccy) & £86 (gas) a month. We have two electric showers but don't ever use the tumble dryer. I can't think of anything unusual in our leccy usage compared with what others might use. In the last 12 months I use 18000 kWh of gas & 9000 kWhs of leccy
I'd be interested to hear what others are paying. :-\
4 Bed detached, 2 old farts only, 19500 KWh gas last year, 3945 KWh Elect. (but I have solar panels.) Currently paying £118 pcm to SSE via M&S, to whom I recently swapped. I change suppliers every year provided I get a better deal. :y
I'll wait to see the results of the meter check & go from there, A swap might be in the offing ;)
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mine is near on 70 a week electric 20-30 gas 5 bed detached
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mine is near on 70 a week electric 20-30 gas 5 bed detached
:o :o :o
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mine is near on 70 a week electric 20-30 gas 5 bed detached
You're supposed to TAKE from the lamp post outside, not feed it! ::) ::)
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on key meter but i do have koi pond
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why is everyone else so cheap
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£157 a month combined Gas & Leccy ... fixed until Dec 2017.. 4 bed end-terraced with a large extension. .. but do get £200 a year from HMG towards it ... :)
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on key meter but i do have koi pond
why is everyone else so cheap
have you answered your own question? ;)
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i dont know about these things mate all i know is i pay the bugger
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i dont know about these things mate all i know is i pay the bugger
pre-paid tends to be the most expensive way to pay anything whether it's fuel or a coin operated telly of yester-year
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i dont know about these things mate all i know is i pay the bugger
pre-paid tends to be the most expensive way to pay anything whether it's fuel or a coin operated telly of yester-year
Pre pay also tends to mean paying off previous debt, is this why?...............
That said I was paying £161 per month for both, 3 bed semi, but just been reduced to £100 and a £600 refund................ ;) ;)
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No dept dont like depts bills come in and go out just as fast, key card is what always had but may look into all in one may owee u all a pint?
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No dept dont like depts bills come in and go out just as fast, key card is what always had but may look into all in one may owee u all a pint?
Seriously if not in a financial difficulty you do not want to be paying by key card, get yourself on a direct debit deal, I pay monthly so tend to know where I stand when overseeing our household budget......... :y :y
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No dept as i make sure of that i will give them a ring i reckon i pay £370-£400 a month 4 both i know i have koi with pumps air pumps and uv then u got the seprate boiler that heats the pond. But i hope i can get it down a bit.
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Switch everything off and see if the meter is still going round? ;)
;D ;D ;D ;D
Also check for a large cable leading to your next door neighbour. :y
My ex had some one come out to test her meter after I told her the consumption was high, she told me the guy that came out had caught numerous customers unknowingly connected to their homes, reckoned a quick test was to nip outside at night, ring your partner indoors to flick the main fuse off and see if any things goes off (Lights wisw) next door, in 2/3 cases the whole house went into darkness completey at the neighbours. (tested 2 or 3 times to verify.
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No dept as i make sure of that i will give them a ring i reckon i pay £370-£400 a month 4 both i know i have koi with pumps air pumps and uv then u got the seprate boiler that heats the pond. But i hope i can get it down a bit.
You will get it down a lot.
The pre-paid meters run at premium rates as there are many more overheads (the local shop keeper gets a cut for a start!), so no dual fuel discount, monthly direct debit discount etc etc.
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Some useful info here:
http://www.uswitch.com/gas-electricity/guides/prepayment-meters/
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mine is near on 70 a week electric 20-30 gas 5 bed detached
You're supposed to TAKE from the lamp post outside, not feed it! ::) ::)
...as I found myself doing in a rented caravan many years ago. When the shilling in the meter ran out one night I noticed the street light outside went off!!! The site was operated by a 'religious community' who had 'religiously' wired up every 3rd van to its adjacent streetlight. >:( >:( >:(