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Title: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: berserkerboy on 23 December 2013, 15:54:57
Just noticed the above with the carpet sopping wet. Can't see any obvious holes underneath the car. Anyone else had this? I wondered why the car misted up so quickly.
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 December 2013, 15:59:01
Blocked scuttle drain... allows water to overflow into the heater ducting via the pollen filter...

Deal with it now and you might get away with only needing a pollen filter :-\ leave it and you'll kill the hedgehog resistor and possibly the fan itself :-\
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: flyer 0712 on 23 December 2013, 15:59:35
Are the scuttle drains filled with crap...especially the passenger one behind the battery under the scuttle grille....may be filled with leaves..dirt and crap and need pushing through by cleaning it out. :-\
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: tunnie on 23 December 2013, 15:59:40
Scuttle drain is blocked, pop the bonnet. Flap in the scuttle lifts up, poke down there with a stick/flush with hose.

Make sure you do this ASAP as it will kill your fan speed controller, also put this on the monthly check list to be kept clear  :y
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: tunnie on 23 December 2013, 16:00:11
3 almost identical responses in 40 seconds, thats the OOF way  ;D
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 December 2013, 16:01:26
Try...

 http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90535.0  (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90535.0)

Or...

 http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90535.0  (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90535.0)

 :y
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: Andy B on 23 December 2013, 16:02:26
or http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=120203.0  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: robson on 23 December 2013, 16:10:56
The water will have  probably run into the back seat carpet passenger side as well. Take carpets and sound proofing out a dry indoors or it will smell terrible. Not a good time to dry things out but must be done.A fan heater inside the car will help with anything that you cant remove.Been there a couple of times. :y
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: robson on 23 December 2013, 16:15:47
Read my recent post Flooded scuttle it may help you.
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: Andy B on 23 December 2013, 17:16:42
Read my recent post Flooded scuttle it may help you.

reply #6 above  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: biggriffin on 23 December 2013, 17:44:56
Another scuttle thread. Must be the Rainey season. :)
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: berserkerboy on 23 December 2013, 18:45:01
Thanks guys. Yep, water in the back as well. Scuttles cleaned. Thanks again. Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: robson on 24 December 2013, 09:16:41
Yes another post on scuttles and I bet after last night there be a few more. A design nightmare. :y
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: tunnie on 24 December 2013, 09:24:05
A design nightmare. :y

Not really, checked every 6 months and its fine. It's when it's not inspected for years you get problems  :y
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: robson on 24 December 2013, 10:59:38
I cleaned mine out approx 2 weeks ago (not much in there to clean out) and a couple of days ago I just caught it in time before it overflowed. I know you will say clean it out better but the outlet seems to close itself up. Cleaned with a bent wire I will try the 3 core cable method shown on the forum some time ago, when it stops raining, maybe that will open it up better.
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: tunnie on 24 December 2013, 11:15:45
Could be the bung rubber has gone all hard (oooo-errr!) & not opening fully when water is in there.

Try removing the bung to allow a better flow  :y
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: robson on 24 December 2013, 16:05:30
Tunnie I thought that might be my problem ie a hard rubber bung. If I could get to it I would replace it but cant get my hand in. I assume that you cant put it in from the outside. I also thought about removing the bung permanently but thought it must be there for some purpose. Update after all that rain last night the resevoir was empty,I hope that I have sorted it this time, it will be a weekly check for a while. :y
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: Toledodude1973 on 24 December 2013, 16:34:22
Reading this got me concerned so when i got home had a look as i noticed windows were misty when car was standing in drive. Drivers side was fine but passengers side had 4 inches of water just wetting base of pollen filter, poked around and freed up base ,lots of water ,forced hand down and removed bung taking off flap then putting it back clean. When you talk about "hedgehog"/fan do you mean heater fan inside car? This still works so hopefully i've caught the water in time
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: robson on 24 December 2013, 16:45:27
Do you have very small hands, a bit tight in there ,was it easy to get out. Time for everybody to check their scuttle drain. The hedgehog is the unit that controls the air circ.  fan motor speed.On my perevious omega the hedgehog went caput and the only way I could stop the fan from running was to take the fuse out. Other symptoms however do occur.
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: tunnie on 24 December 2013, 16:47:21
I'm lucky, I can reach in and clear out scuttle drain by hand  :y
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: RobG on 24 December 2013, 16:50:05
Reading this got me concerned so when i got home had a look as i noticed windows were misty when car was standing in drive. Drivers side was fine but passengers side had 4 inches of water just wetting base of pollen filter, poked around and freed up base ,lots of water ,forced hand down and removed bung taking off flap then putting it back clean. When you talk about "hedgehog"/fan do you mean heater fan inside car? This still works so hopefully i've caught the water in time
Lives next to blower motor
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z257/belisensis/OMEGAFORUM/fanspeedcontrollerhedgehog.jpg) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/belisensis/media/OMEGAFORUM/fanspeedcontrollerhedgehog.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: Toledodude1973 on 24 December 2013, 17:19:44
I basically said sod it and forced my hand in, bit like when i did HBV in other words sod the pain!!! ;D ;D, so after reading replies the an still works so happy days. Thanks RobG you are so valuable to this site with pics and part no's.   Robson i just pushed it through and hooked it out from the chassis , as i said i removed flap before returning it  ,good or bad?                                         
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: robson on 24 December 2013, 19:13:00
didnt know there was a flap but this could be the problem with my bung when this flap closes up and blocks water drain. Will have to grease hand and dive in.
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: gsizoli on 24 December 2013, 21:34:07
I've the same problem, water on the floor (not UK car, so water on the driver's side - left, front and back, but it comes from front). Scuttle is not blocked, I clean it usually every 3-4 mounths.  The biggest problem that I have no idea where the water comes from into the car, windshield was replaced it was an idea, but still fresh water under the mat. I have to remove (cut out.. :(() the whole mat and than I hope I will see what is the cause of my problem.. ??? ???
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: robson on 24 December 2013, 21:49:11
I had the same problem and traced it to a leaking windscreen. You have replaced your screen but has it been tested with an air line and soapy water .When I had my problem I got buubles from various points of the screen seal.
Title: Re: Water under front passenger mat
Post by: gsizoli on 25 December 2013, 19:10:35
Hmmm...we've done the job with my friend, he is an expert, we cleaned the surface well, and at bad points we used rust remedy. The idea is great anyway it's worth an experiment, thanks.