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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: miniator on 28 December 2013, 21:52:06

Title: Removing the standard HU
Post by: miniator on 28 December 2013, 21:52:06
Been a while, but I'm after another omega.

Specifically want a FL, preferably Elite spec.

Want to dumb the standard HU as it really is terrible by todays standards, but i have a question, if dump it what do i lose?

I remember in my old omega, i got a headlamp range warning on the dash. does that menu system still work without the hu?
Title: Re: Removing the standard HU
Post by: jonny2112 on 28 December 2013, 22:35:39
Don't think there is anything else 'lost' but if you go down the Elite route, therefore Bose, you'll not be able to keep the speakers or amp without the oe head unit.
Title: Re: Removing the standard HU
Post by: chrisgixer on 28 December 2013, 22:50:31
The Elites come with ncdc 2013 or 2015 with telematics.

Both have on screen display in the dash either anagram(Gid?) or colour(CID) so you WILL loose the ability to display nav on screen in the dash. No other head unit has an output for nav etc to a remote screen. If you find one that does, is bose capable, can cope with check control warnings, and BC functions on a remote screen, please do let us know.

The Elite HU's are designed as one with the car, much to the annoyance of the ice industry who claim to be able to match and oe head unit performance. Not this one they can't ;D and of course they have Bose too, and its system specific outputs.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Removing the standard HU
Post by: jonny2112 on 28 December 2013, 23:17:02
I thought ncd units were an optional extra, and based my comments on the standard units - in my case the 2006.
Apologies if this was misleading - having re read the op I should have realised  :-X
Title: Re: Removing the standard HU
Post by: miniator on 29 December 2013, 12:01:35
That's grand, I'll be changing the speakers etc anyway.

The other option to connect the iPod directly to the amp
Title: Re: Removing the standard HU
Post by: chrisgixer on 29 December 2013, 23:20:46
I thought ncd units were an optional extra, and based my comments on the standard units - in my case the 2006.
Apologies if this was misleading - having re read the op I should have realised  :-X

Er er, Chrisgixer back pedals furiously. Later Elites did. 02 to 03. ... early ones not so sure tbh. If 2006 I'd probably swap that put too tbh.

Ncdc, keep it. Nothing else will work correctly to the same level. There's other ways to connect an mp3 player.
Title: Re: Removing the standard HU
Post by: miniator on 29 December 2013, 23:48:42
I thought ncd units were an optional extra, and based my comments on the standard units - in my case the 2006.
Apologies if this was misleading - having re read the op I should have realised  :-X

Er er, Chrisgixer back pedals furiously. Later Elites did. 02 to 03. ... early ones not so sure tbh. If 2006 I'd probably swap that put too tbh.

Ncdc, keep it. Nothing else will work correctly to the same level. There's other ways to connect an mp3 player.

go on....and an FM modulator is not an option
Title: Re: Removing the standard HU
Post by: chrisgixer on 30 December 2013, 00:19:52
Why not? There are some good ones. Harmon kardon? Dave Dnd has one in his shop. Sounds good on Bose ;)
Title: Re: Removing the standard HU
Post by: miniator on 30 December 2013, 10:32:54
Why not? There are some good ones. Harmon kardon? Dave Dnd has one in his shop. Sounds good on Bose ;)

The plan would be to rip all the bose stuff out, its really past its best now. I have some JL and Alpine ICE upstairs from my previous car, still using the alpine head unit in the alfa atm.

compared to the alpine head unit even on standard speakers, fm modulators just don't have the quality
Title: Re: Removing the standard HU
Post by: TheBoy on 30 December 2013, 10:36:52
To clear up the NCDC thing, *all* 3.2 came with NCDC2013/GID as standard, most (but not all) 3.0l came with NCDC2013/GID. All others came with CCR2006/MID.

If you want to change HU on NCDC equipped elite, rip out HU, screen, amp and speakers, and replace the lot. If you want fuel computer functions, fit a MID (may need reprogramming), and the appropriate wiper stalk. Note, you'll have to add some simple wiring for the stalk.

On CCR2006 elites, replace HU, amp and speakers. Existing MID and wiper stalk are fine.
Title: Re: Removing the standard HU
Post by: miniator on 30 December 2013, 10:47:58
To clear up the NCDC thing, *all* 3.2 came with NCDC2013/GID as standard, most (but not all) 3.0l came with NCDC2013/GID. All others came with CCR2006/MID.

If you want to change HU on NCDC equipped elite, rip out HU, screen, amp and speakers, and replace the lot. If you want fuel computer functions, fit a MID (may need reprogramming), and the appropriate wiper stalk. Note, you'll have to add some simple wiring for the stalk.

On CCR2006 elites, replace HU, amp and speakers. Existing MID and wiper stalk are fine.

Perfect, thanks!
Title: Re: Removing the standard HU
Post by: jonny2112 on 30 December 2013, 12:02:59
To clear up the NCDC thing, *all* 3.2 came with NCDC2013/GID as standard, most (but not all) 3.0l came with NCDC2013/GID. All others came with CCR2006/MID.

If you want to change HU on NCDC equipped elite, rip out HU, screen, amp and speakers, and replace the lot. If you want fuel computer functions, fit a MID (may need reprogramming), and the appropriate wiper stalk. Note, you'll have to add some simple wiring for the stalk.

On CCR2006 elites, replace HU, amp and speakers. Existing MID and wiper stalk are fine.

Perfect, thanks!

+1  :y
Title: Re: Removing the standard HU
Post by: TheBoy on 30 December 2013, 13:04:13
For non UK readers, the specs apply to Vauxhall badged cars only. Opel had different options