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Title: Supersonic Business Jet
Post by: Rods2 on 01 January 2014, 17:31:43
For delivery in 2018.  :y :y :y :y

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2531819/Now-THATS-jet-set-Private-supersonic-jet-fly-rich-famous-2018-itll-cost-cool-48-MILLION.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2531819/Now-THATS-jet-set-Private-supersonic-jet-fly-rich-famous-2018-itll-cost-cool-48-MILLION.html)

Perhaps Lord Opti will be so good to treat us to a trip in his when he takes delivery.  :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Supersonic Business Jet
Post by: omega3000 on 01 January 2014, 18:21:13
Thats one nice looking bird , wonder who will be the first to order  :-\
Title: Re: Supersonic Business Jet
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 01 January 2014, 18:32:56
For delivery in 2018.  :y :y :y :y

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2531819/Now-THATS-jet-set-Private-supersonic-jet-fly-rich-famous-2018-itll-cost-cool-48-MILLION.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2531819/Now-THATS-jet-set-Private-supersonic-jet-fly-rich-famous-2018-itll-cost-cool-48-MILLION.html)

Perhaps Lord Opti will be so good to treat us to a trip in his when he takes delivery.  :y :y :y :y


My old Learjet does the same for half the price. :)
Title: Re: Supersonic Business Jet
Post by: chrisgixer on 01 January 2014, 18:34:15
First? Second surely?
Title: Re: Supersonic Business Jet
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 January 2014, 18:48:00
interesting wing shape for a supersonic aircraft. :-\

I wouldn't mind betting that's a "Daily Fail" aerodynamic masterpiece that gets tweaked quite a bit before anyone tries to fly it. ::)
Title: Re: Supersonic Business Jet
Post by: 05omegav6 on 01 January 2014, 18:53:56
interesting wing shape for a supersonic aircraft. :-\

I wouldn't mind betting that's a "Daily Fail" aerodynamic masterpiece that gets tweaked quite a bit before anyone tries to fly it. ::)
;D

One of theses do?

 http://www.everettaero.com/Phantom.html  (http://www.everettaero.com/Phantom.html) 8)

Should add, for sale with or without engines, poa ::)
Title: Re: Supersonic Business Jet
Post by: ronnyd on 01 January 2014, 19:16:00
interesting wing shape for a supersonic aircraft. :-\

I wouldn't mind betting that's a "Daily Fail" aerodynamic masterpiece that gets tweaked quite a bit before anyone tries to fly it. ::)
;D

One of theses do?

 http://www.everettaero.com/Phantom.html  (http://www.everettaero.com/Phantom.html) 8)

Should add, for sale with or without engines, poa ::)
Looks like the wings from the Angel of the North. :-\
Title: Re: Supersonic Business Jet
Post by: Rods2 on 01 January 2014, 22:47:13
Without sweptback wings, it is not going supersonic me thinks.  :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Supersonic Business Jet
Post by: 05omegav6 on 02 January 2014, 02:20:27
Without sweptback wings, it is not going supersonic me thinks.  :o :o :o :o
Indeed, the shockwave would tear them off, making it a pretty effective single use missile ;D

The Delta layout has long since been proven as the way to do supersonic, whether that be with a fixed shape (Concorde, SR71, F15/16, Eurofighter) or swept/vaiable wings (Tornado, F14, F111). The variable wings offering far greater low speed control :y
Title: Re: Supersonic Business Jet
Post by: tigers_gonads on 02 January 2014, 10:02:15
Its the airfoil shape that's matters more then the sweep of the leading edge  ;)

Take this as a example

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-104_Starfighter
One of the fastest aircraft ever to fly  :)
Title: Re: Supersonic Business Jet
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 January 2014, 10:12:14
Depends if you want it to cruise efficiently at MACH >> 1 or just get there by brute force, though. ;D

IME, it's not even worth reading aviation related "stories" in the Daily Fail as their aviation specialists clearly don't have any grasp on reality or the basic laws of physics.
Title: Re: Supersonic Business Jet
Post by: 05omegav6 on 02 January 2014, 10:44:07
Its the airfoil shape that's matters more then the sweep of the leading edge  ;)

Take this as a example

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-104_Starfighter
One of the fastest aircraft ever to fly  :)
An almost uncontrollable reusable missile ;D
Title: Re: Supersonic Business Jet
Post by: CaptainZok on 02 January 2014, 14:34:51
Depends if you want it to cruise efficiently at MACH >> 1 or just get there by brute force, though. ;D

IME, it's not even worth reading "stories" in the Daily Fail as their "specialists" clearly don't have any grasp on reality.
Fixed that for you Kev. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Supersonic Business Jet
Post by: Shackeng on 02 January 2014, 20:20:17
Its the airfoil shape that's matters more then the sweep of the leading edge  ;)

Take this as a example

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-104_Starfighter
One of the fastest aircraft ever to fly  :)

Commonly know as the 'Widow-maker'.  :(
Title: Re: Supersonic Business Jet
Post by: tigers_gonads on 03 January 2014, 12:01:48
Its the airfoil shape that's matters more then the sweep of the leading edge  ;)

Take this as a example

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-104_Starfighter
One of the fastest aircraft ever to fly  :)

Commonly know as the 'Widow-maker'.  :(


Never met a jocky who didn't love flying them though  ;D
Title: Re: Supersonic Business Jet
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 January 2014, 12:48:43
If you're going to buy the farm, you might as well do it on the edge ;D
Title: Re: Supersonic Business Jet
Post by: Rods2 on 03 January 2014, 22:52:41
Without sweptback wings, it is not going supersonic me thinks.  :o :o :o :o
Indeed, the shockwave would tear them off, making it a pretty effective single use missile ;D

The Delta layout has long since been proven as the way to do supersonic, whether that be with a fixed shape (Concorde, SR71, F15/16, Eurofighter) or swept/vaiable wings (Tornado, F14, F111). The variable wings offering far greater low speed control :y

F16 and later generations, use leading edge and tailing strakes that change the profile of the wings, depending upon speed and AOA which is a better solution than swing wings. This was possible where it is fly-by-wire with the flight control computers controlling the aircraft's stability.