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Title: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Albert1 on 03 June 2008, 14:58:51
Check out this rather unusual Signum on eBay - like or not?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_Cars__Vauxhall-Signum-3-0-V6-CDTI-RARE-Full-VXR-Body-Kit_W0QQitemZ250254556881QQadnZCarsQQadiZ3368QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250254556881&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C65%3A7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 June 2008, 15:01:09
.. but it's a Tractor :o

Kevin
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Albert1 on 03 June 2008, 15:02:48
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.. but it's a Tractor :o

Kevin
We'll all be driving tractors soon, what with OPEC's determination to send the oil price to $300 a barrel.
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: tunnie on 03 June 2008, 15:38:32
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.. but it's a Tractor :o

Kevin
We'll all be driving tractors soon, what with OPEC's determination to send the oil price to $300 a barrel.

With DERV 15p more per litre at the pump, i will be staying with petrol!
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: FRE07962128 on 03 June 2008, 15:41:58
Nothing special is it?  Just a modern, standard, box on wheels....how boring! :( ;)
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Entwood on 03 June 2008, 15:43:20
Nowt to write home about ...:(  another plastic box on wheels, no character at all IMHO ..:(
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Albert1 on 03 June 2008, 15:45:19
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.. but it's a Tractor :o

Kevin
We'll all be driving tractors soon, what with OPEC's determination to send the oil price to $300 a barrel.

With DERV 15p more per litre at the pump, i will be staying with petrol!
Which makes diesel about 10% more expensive than petrol, but gives about 50% more MPG.  The sums are simple, everything else just a matter of personal preference.
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 June 2008, 15:51:07
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Which makes diesel about 10% more expensive than petrol, but gives about 50% more MPG.  The sums are simple, everything else just a matter of personal preference.


.. like "does it rev like an angry wasp?"

Nope.  ;D

 ;)

Kevin
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Albert1 on 03 June 2008, 16:01:28
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Which makes diesel about 10% more expensive than petrol, but gives about 50% more MPG.  The sums are simple, everything else just a matter of personal preference.


.. like "does it rev like an angry wasp?"

Nope.  ;D

 ;)

Kevin

Angry wasp noises for petrolheads, flat torque "curve" at low revs for dieselheads...each to their own.

Me, I'm still waiting for the lazy manufacturers to create my ideal engine:  V8 petrol (speed, refinement) with variable cylinder-shutdown facility when I'm pootling about (anywhere between 2 and 5 cylinders would shut down), assisted by GM's forthcoming HCCI technology that relies on compression rather than spark-ignition up to 3000 RPM, and two Lithium Ion powered electric motors powering the wheels at town speeds, with the batteries partly charged by built-in solar panels in the roof.
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 June 2008, 16:41:56
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Which makes diesel about 10% more expensive than petrol, but gives about 50% more MPG.  The sums are simple, everything else just a matter of personal preference.


.. like "does it rev like an angry wasp?"

Nope.  ;D

 ;)

Kevin

Angry wasp noises for petrolheads, flat torque "curve" at low revs for dieselheads...each to their own.

Me, I'm still waiting for the lazy manufacturers to create my ideal engine:  V8 petrol (speed, refinement) with variable cylinder-shutdown facility when I'm pootling about (anywhere between 2 and 5 cylinders would shut down), assisted by GM's forthcoming HCCI technology that relies on compression rather than spark-ignition up to 3000 RPM, and two Lithium Ion powered electric motors powering the wheels at town speeds, with the batteries partly charged by built-in solar panels in the roof.

Almost reminds me of an old episode of the Simpsons
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Richie London on 03 June 2008, 16:44:12
wonder why hes selling a car he's praising so much??

dont really like it,may do if it was black  :-/ :-/
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Albert1 on 03 June 2008, 16:51:54
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Which makes diesel about 10% more expensive than petrol, but gives about 50% more MPG.  The sums are simple, everything else just a matter of personal preference.


.. like "does it rev like an angry wasp?"

Nope.  ;D

 ;)

Kevin

Angry wasp noises for petrolheads, flat torque "curve" at low revs for dieselheads...each to their own.

Me, I'm still waiting for the lazy manufacturers to create my ideal engine:  V8 petrol (speed, refinement) with variable cylinder-shutdown facility when I'm pootling about (anywhere between 2 and 5 cylinders would shut down), assisted by GM's forthcoming HCCI technology that relies on compression rather than spark-ignition up to 3000 RPM, and two Lithium Ion powered electric motors powering the wheels at town speeds, with the batteries partly charged by built-in solar panels in the roof.

Almost reminds me of an old episode of the Simpsons
 
You mean the rack-and-peanut-steering episode?  lol
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Albert1 on 03 June 2008, 16:53:13
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dont really like it,may do if it was black  :-/ :-/
That was my first impression, but black Signums manage to look like hearses....
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Richie London on 03 June 2008, 17:00:01
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dont really like it,may do if it was black  :-/ :-/
That was my first impression, but black Signums manage to look like hearses....

had a few bodies in the back of my cars  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Auto Addict on 03 June 2008, 17:01:00
I've driven a Daimler hearse.
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Phil on 03 June 2008, 18:57:02
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.. but it's a Tractor :o

Kevin


185bhp and 295 lb/ft torque with a 0-60 time that will pretty much match a 3ltr Omega it might be worth a look for a 'performance' diesel if you want to stay with a Griffin.

I hate Diesels with a passion, but if i had to have one it would be one of those (but maybe in a different colour  ;D)
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: VXL V6 on 03 June 2008, 19:10:43
Electronics aside, would be an interesting project to pop that engine into an Omega.
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: markey mark on 03 June 2008, 19:50:26
i love them fella my little brother has just bought a 54 plate 2.0 turbo well impressed with the spec !! will be my next car a chipped 3.0cdti  8-)
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Vamps on 03 June 2008, 22:50:10
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Which makes diesel about 10% more expensive than petrol, but gives about 50% more MPG.  The sums are simple, everything else just a matter of personal preference.


.. like "does it rev like an angry wasp?"

Nope.  ;D

 ;)

Kevin

Angry wasp noises for petrolheads, flat torque "curve" at low revs for dieselheads...each to their own.

Me, I'm still waiting for the lazy manufacturers to create my ideal engine:  V8 petrol (speed, refinement) with variable cylinder-shutdown facility when I'm pootling about (anywhere between 2 and 5 cylinders would shut down), assisted by GM's forthcoming HCCI technology that relies on compression rather than spark-ignition up to 3000 RPM, and two Lithium Ion powered electric motors powering the wheels at town speeds, with the batteries partly charged by built-in solar panels in the roof.

Either Top gear or 5th Gear were talking about such an engine, either Mercedes or BMW, wasn't taking much notice. :-[
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: pscocoa on 03 June 2008, 23:06:39
I like it - I have an Omega Irmscher 3.2 Elite  and a diesel Signum 57 plate and went for the 1.9 for 50+ mpg. You will be surprised at the spec and the performance of the diesel Signum.

Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 03 June 2008, 23:07:26
I really do like its wheels though :y
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 June 2008, 23:23:55
I suspect a V8 would be as rough as a bear's @rse with 5 cylinders shut down. ;D

I guess most of the losses caused by the redundant cylinders would be there still too. They'd still be moving in the bores and pumping fresh air although presumably there'd be some more sophisticated valve control in the HCCI setup that could minimise this.

It would be great until it broke.

Kevin
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Andy B on 03 June 2008, 23:27:01
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I've driven a Daimler hearse.

Inhabited or not?  ::)  ::)

I've ferried many deseased backward & forward to & from mortuaries & chapels of rest.  :y
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Andy B on 03 June 2008, 23:29:48
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Me, I'm still waiting for the lazy manufacturers to create my ideal engine:  V8 petrol (speed, refinement) with variable cylinder-shutdown facility when I'm pootling about (anywhere between 2 and 5 cylinders would shut down), .......

Doesn't the Chrysler Hemi 6.1 V8 do some thing similar. IIRC Cadillac were experimanting with the idea during the 70's fuel crissis, I don't know what their problems were though.
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Albatross on 03 June 2008, 23:38:36
Not such a nice car; FWD and the colour doesn't look so great on it. Nice wheels though :y



[size=8](Oh, and 19" do not rattle your teeth)[/size]
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Andy B on 03 June 2008, 23:42:13
I can't say I'm a fan of any of the recent snowflake alloys. To open for me, I like the facelift Omega Elite - more wheel than hole.
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 June 2008, 08:47:11
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Me, I'm still waiting for the lazy manufacturers to create my ideal engine:  V8 petrol (speed, refinement) with variable cylinder-shutdown facility when I'm pootling about (anywhere between 2 and 5 cylinders would shut down), .......

Doesn't the Chrysler Hemi 6.1 V8 do some thing similar. IIRC Cadillac were experimanting with the idea during the 70's fuel crissis, I don't know what their problems were though.

GM claim to have 1 million cars in the US with this technology:

http://www.gm.com/explore/fuel_economy/engine_advances/
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Albert1 on 04 June 2008, 09:15:44
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I suspect a V8 would be as rough as a bear's @rse with 5 cylinders shut down. ;D

I guess most of the losses caused by the redundant cylinders would be there still too. They'd still be moving in the bores and pumping fresh air although presumably there'd be some more sophisticated valve control in the HCCI setup that could minimise this.

It would be great until it broke.

Kevin
It's been done before by Mercedes (S600 V12) and Cadillac - the only drawback was that the people with the money to buy those cars weren't interested in saving fuel, so not many were sold.  Might be a different story nowadays though.
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 04 June 2008, 09:27:55
Does it actually have any so called boot/load space to speak of.?
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: Albert1 on 04 June 2008, 09:46:02
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Does it actually have any so called boot/load space to speak of.?
365 litres - just enough for a dead body, as long as rigor mortis hasn't set in yet.
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: edwardmickey on 04 June 2008, 11:44:48
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.. but it's a Tractor :o

Kevin


185bhp and 295 lb/ft torque with a 0-60 time that will pretty much match a 3ltr Omega it might be worth a look for a 'performance' diesel if you want to stay with a Griffin.
I hate Diesels with a passion, but if i had to have one it would be one of those (but maybe in a different colour  ;D)


If this engine is the same as in the Vectra 3.0 Cdti V6, it's bloody awful.

Pis$ poor turbo range, no power after 4k revs, sluggish and takes an eternity to get to 60!  Perhaps the most frustrating engine I've ever had the displeasure to drive in my life.

(Don't like it much)  ;D
Title: Re: Signum with VXR Kit - Like or Dislike?
Post by: John Lewis on 05 June 2008, 01:31:57
I prefer my Astra with the VXR kit. Much less boring!!

Although it doesn't pull like a VXR, it looks and drives very nice indeed. Rubbish pic though soz!

(http://www.johnlewisdesign.com/oof/sxi.jpg)