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Title: Then and now.....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 February 2014, 01:18:49
Well fairly recently anyway.  The picture is of a bridge over the River Parrett in Somerset.  Self explanatory really!  ::)

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy208/tiggerhayes/riverparrot_zps22b65d60.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/user/tiggerhayes/media/riverparrot_zps22b65d60.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Then and now.....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 18 February 2014, 09:32:19
That'll be "climate change", then. ::)
Title: Re: Then and now.....
Post by: Stemo on 18 February 2014, 10:06:52
Thought this was gonna be an ad for Now TV.
Title: Re: Then and now.....
Post by: 05omegav6 on 18 February 2014, 10:19:45
That'll be "climate change", then. ::)
If by 'climate' you mean 'local ecosystem' then yes ;D

What is quite apparent in both pictures, (and no reference has been made anywhere that I have seen), to the fact that the designers felt the need to run a 5' bore through the butresses :o The river obviously never flooded previously then... ::)

I wonder what happened to the previous bridge :-\
Title: Re: Then and now.....
Post by: Varche on 18 February 2014, 10:52:34
That'll be "climate change", then. ::)
If by 'climate' you mean 'local ecosystem' then yes ;D

What is quite apparent in both pictures, (and no reference has been made anywhere that I have seen), to the fact that the designers felt the need to run a 5' bore through the butresses :o The river obviously never flooded previously then... ::)

I wonder what happened to the previous bridge :-\

Looks like the same one to me? Good posting Tigger
Title: Re: Then and now.....
Post by: tunnie on 18 February 2014, 11:15:22
Thought this was gonna be an ad for Now TV.

 :D :D

I thought that same, but not quite right.

'That was then, this is now' is our line :)
Title: Re: Then and now.....
Post by: 05omegav6 on 18 February 2014, 11:26:34
That'll be "climate change", then. ::)
If by 'climate' you mean 'local ecosystem' then yes ;D

What is quite apparent in both pictures, (and no reference has been made anywhere that I have seen), to the fact that the designers felt the need to run a 5' bore through the butresses :o The river obviously never flooded previously then... ::)

I wonder what happened to the previous bridge :-\

Looks like the same one to me? Good posting Tigger
That bridge IS the same bridge in both pictures...

Question is what happened to the previous bridge to justify the bores through the buttresses :-\
Title: Re: Then and now.....
Post by: Searcher on 18 February 2014, 14:02:54
Well fairly recently anyway.  The picture is of a bridge over the River Parrett in Somerset.  Self explanatory really!  ::)

(http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy208/tiggerhayes/riverparrot_zps22b65d60.jpg) (http://s792.photobucket.com/user/tiggerhayes/media/riverparrot_zps22b65d60.jpg.html)

Apparently,

This........

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/18/article-2561435-1B99D1D100000578-857_636x385.jpg

is how it looks now.
Title: Re: Then and now.....
Post by: 05omegav6 on 18 February 2014, 14:11:25
Be interesting to see a pic of the other side... :-\
Title: Re: Then and now.....
Post by: biggriffin on 18 February 2014, 16:21:45
You need to look at the silt level,in both shots.Thats,why theve been printed.
Title: Re: Then and now.....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 18 February 2014, 16:24:11
You need to look at the silt level,in both shots.Thats,why theve been printed.

Indeed. Then consider the cross sectional area of water that can flow. I should think the capacity of that river is about a third of what it was, but no.. we know best.. it's rain of "biblical" proportions due to "climate change", etc.
Title: Re: Then and now.....
Post by: 05omegav6 on 18 February 2014, 16:56:15
Allow me to rephrase that...

Obviously the river has silted up. That could be due to flow speeds as much as anything, but...

1.Did the bridge that stood before the one shown get washed away?

2. Why did the engineers who designed/built the bridge shown include the two side bores? Perhaps the river used to flow alot faster, and flood regularly. In which case, why was the river neglected during periods of low flow and allowed to silt up?

 :-\
Title: Re: Then and now.....
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 18 February 2014, 16:58:20
Either way, increasing the cross sectional area of the conduits will only speed up the time it takes for the water to drain away once its got into them (they still need clearing though). At the end of the day, given the rainfall, the floods would still have happened put possibly not for such a long period.

The hard truth is thats ther is always going to be a cost/benefit sum to do......which will bring winners.....and losers.....
Title: Re: Then and now.....
Post by: chrisgixer on 18 February 2014, 19:15:31
Allow me to rephrase that...

Obviously the river has silted up. That could be due to flow speeds as much as anything, but...

1.Did the bridge that stood before the one shown get washed away?

2. Why did the engineers who designed/built the bridge shown include the two side bores? Perhaps the river used to flow alot faster, and flood regularly. In which case, why was the river neglected during periods of low flow and allowed to silt up?

 :-\

1 what suggests that's not the original bridge Al? :-\

2 interesting question.
On first seeing a photo of that bridge, (months ago now on sky news ::) ) I wondered the same.
Only thing I can guess is, allowing flow once the river gets high enough to envelop the arch. Maybe taking pressure off the side walls. :-\




Also, if if looking at searchers link,  in the pic from the 1960,s its interesting to see there are at least half a dozen "high tide" marks visible near the top of the bridge arch.
Title: Re: Then and now.....
Post by: chrisgixer on 18 February 2014, 19:33:51
Wikipedia suggests there was indeed a previous bridge, rebuilt to the current form due to the original three arches restricting barges coming up the river, and restricting river flow downstream.
Title: Re: Then and now.....
Post by: 05omegav6 on 18 February 2014, 19:34:25
I doubt that bridge is any older than 1800 :-\

Were it older I would expect it to look summat like...

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=potter+heigham+bridge&client=tablet-android-sony&hl=en-GB&source=android-browser-suggest&v=141338691&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ULMDU6mQHsSihgeO2ICQCg&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1280&bih=800#biv=i%7C61%3Bd%7C5OOCOL7cAcPYxM%3A

... which is Medieval in origin :y