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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Kate on 23 March 2014, 12:42:14
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Just wondering whether anyone ever has their engine tuned?
If so, did it improve performance and economy?
There is a company on ebay offering this service:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ECU-TUNING-REMAP-CHIP-VOLVO-ROVER-OPEL-VAUXHALL-JEEP-NISSAN-HONDA-HYUNDAI-/161245822458?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AOmega&hash=item258afffdfa (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ECU-TUNING-REMAP-CHIP-VOLVO-ROVER-OPEL-VAUXHALL-JEEP-NISSAN-HONDA-HYUNDAI-/161245822458?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AOmega&hash=item258afffdfa)
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3.0 can be chipped to good effect, there is a 'genuine' chip for that very purpose. Improvements can also be had with changing the cams and exhaust manifolds... Zirk might be able to help on the chipping side of things :y
Obviously the time to do this is when the cambelt is due and/or the head gasket fails, as the belt needs removing to change the cams and the manifolds are best removed when the heads are off :y Prudence would suggest gathering bits, including camcover gaskets/thermostat/oil cooler etc and blitzing it next time the belt is done.
That way you can buy the parts at leisure and save up for the labour cost, rather than rushing out in a panic prior to getting your cambelt done, which I guess has just been changed :y
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Best gains to be made from turbo diesel and turbo petrol engines, Ms. Kate..... :-* :-*
So only limited gains for the normally aspirated 'Omega lump'.
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Thanks for that advice. DLK has just finished the cambelt. :y
I guess it will be a while then before any tuning takes place.
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You could still chip it though... Zirk would be my first port of call for a chipped 3.0 ecu :y
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the only tuning that results with better fuel economy is manual conversion ;D :y
all others drink more for a better go..
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Not for a 10+ year old NA V6. Spend your money elsewhere. Plus if you really want a proper go at tuning, use one of the long standing specialist tuners. Not some dodgy ebay bloke located in Middlesex!
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What about a wet nitrous oxide system with a progersive controller start from 25bhp,using the controller it feeds the nitrous in gradualy and not in 1 big hit .
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and comparing UKs car and tuning prices ( of course not a simple chip or cam change) , its logical to buy another one, unless you can do your own..
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My 3.0l showed improvement above 4.5k rpm, following a chipping exercise :)
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My 3.0l showed improvement above 4.5k rpm, following a chipping exercise :)
Define improvement?
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My 3.0l showed improvement above 4.5k rpm, following a chipping exercise :)
Define improvement?
A noticeable increase in power compared to pre chip. Not rolling roaded it, as not interested in penis bragging at the local. Difficult to gauge increase, maybe 20bhp.
Below 4500rpm, no real difference.
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My 3.0l showed improvement above 4.5k rpm, following a chipping exercise :)
Define improvement?
It's a shame 3.2 can't be chipped :(
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My 3.0l showed improvement above 4.5k rpm, following a chipping exercise :)
Define improvement?
It's a shame 3.2 can't be chipped :(
You don't use the power it has now :P
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My 3.0l showed improvement above 4.5k rpm, following a chipping exercise :)
Define improvement?
It's a shame 3.2 can't be chipped :(
I have two 3.2's Manuals sitting out the back with upgraded Maps. Chipped, re Chipped, re Mapped, all the same meaning, its just the method in acheving the same result. ;)
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I wonder whether the intake from a Chrysler SRT6/Merc SLK32 could be successfully manipulated on to a 3.2, coupled with tubular manifolds and a (slightly) larger bore exhaust with sports cats and bigger injectors/higher pressure fuel rail :-\
Packaging coukd be an issue as the M112 block is a 90° V rather than 54° :-\
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My 3.0l showed improvement above 4.5k rpm, following a chipping exercise :)
Define improvement?
It's a shame 3.2 can't be chipped :(
I have two 3.2's Manuals sitting out the back with upgraded Maps. Chipped, re Chipped, re Mapped, all the same meaning, its just the method in acheving the same result. ;)
In tunnie-world, "can't be" = "not available for free" ;D
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I wonder whether the intake from a Chrysler SRT6/Merc SLK32 could be successfully manipulated on to a 3.2, coupled with tubular manifolds and a (slightly) larger bore exhaust with sports cats and bigger injectors/higher pressure fuel rail :-\
Packaging coukd be an issue as the M112 block is a 90° V rather than 54° :-\
if you have some welding abilities you can do yours .. seperate throttle for each bank , bigger valves and higher profile cams can bring lots of power even in NA form.. but definitely you will need stronger pump and high flow injectors and a new ECU.. I dont think 3.2 standard ecu can handle all that power..
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and as I read those new model standalone ECUs are so well equipped with sensors (they have 400 mips processors) they quickly sense oil and coolant temperature changes and hear engine knocks so its not that easy to bang those modded engines with this new-ish ECU..
assuming you have some oil + coolant inside the engine ;D
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My 3.0l showed improvement above 4.5k rpm, following a chipping exercise :)
Define improvement?
It's a shame 3.2 can't be chipped :(
I have two 3.2's Manuals sitting out the back with upgraded Maps. Chipped, re Chipped, re Mapped, all the same meaning, its just the method in acheving the same result. ;)
In tunnie-world, "can't be" = "not available for free" ;D
Free, I'll remove his ECU for free, but thats as far as it goes, Tunnie, you been eating too many FREE dougnuts at work again. ::)
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So if I got a chipped ecu that might improve performance?
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Has anyone got any chips for sale?
Or fish even? ;D
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My old MFL 3ltr MV6 had an ebay 'knock off' chip and it without doubt improved performance and economy and it did 227bhp on a set of rollers where 2 standard VX220s produced bang on factory power so would suggest fairly accurate.
I did however listen to the horror stories of the ebay chips and went out and bought an M-Tec chip.
This also produced better mpg over standard and matched the power of the ebay version - tested against previous figures on 1 mile stretch of private test track.
This also went on a RR and apparently it was producing 247bhp, which i know isn't right, on a day when most cars were recording figures a lot lower than expected, so can only estimate it was also around the 225bhp. The 247bhp figure was the one shown in the Total Vauxhall report on the RR day
For a relatively small amount of outlay there was a definate improvement in my case
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My 3.0l showed improvement above 4.5k rpm, following a chipping exercise :)
Define improvement?
It's a shame 3.2 can't be chipped :(
I have two 3.2's Manuals sitting out the back with upgraded Maps. Chipped, re Chipped, re Mapped, all the same meaning, its just the method in acheving the same result. ;)
In tunnie-world, "can't be" = "not available for free" ;D
Free, I'll remove his ECU for free, but thats as far as it goes, Tunnie, you been eating too many FREE dougnuts at work again. ::)
Lol, no my understanding is that it could not be physically done. Sure I re-call posts saying the 3.2's ECU's could not be flashed? :-\
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My 3.0l showed improvement above 4.5k rpm, following a chipping exercise :)
Define improvement?
It's a shame 3.2 can't be chipped :(
I have two 3.2's Manuals sitting out the back with upgraded Maps. Chipped, re Chipped, re Mapped, all the same meaning, its just the method in acheving the same result. ;)
In tunnie-world, "can't be" = "not available for free" ;D
I would draw our honourable little fatty to the below, stating no maps were available. Old threads I admit, however I did not know new ones had surfaced :-\
http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1202137358 (http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1202137358)
http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1306257481 (http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1306257481)
http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1276243587 (http://oldsite.omegaowners.com//forum/YaBB.pl?num=1276243587)
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So to state, I was right. It is not 'Chippable' :P :P
You can flash it, if maps can be found. But as above, previous maps changes gave little or no improvement :-\
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So to state, I was right. It is not 'Chippable' :P :P
You can flash it, if maps can be found. But as above, previous maps changes gave little or no improvement :-\
When we meet up for our Duel that was planned in Epping Forest a few years back, I'll let you drive my re mapped, chipped, re chipped, mapped 3.2 Manual :) ....... before I shoot you. ;D That way you can decide for yourself whether it makes any improvement. :y
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So to state, I was right. It is not 'Chippable' :P :P
You can flash it, if maps can be found. But as above, previous maps changes gave little or no improvement :-\
When we meet up for our Duel that was planned in Epping Forest a few years back, I'll let you drive my re mapped, chipped, re chipped, mapped 3.2 Manual :) ....... before I shoot you. ;D That way you can decide for yourself whether it makes any improvement. :y
Should add going on what I've read here, I've driven chipped 2.5 TD's manual/autos massive difference.
But going back few years now, the improvements at the time for 3.2 were very minimal. Happy to be proved wrong :y
Any other improvements like mpg or idle?
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There's a very big difference between "chipping" a manufacturer-crippled turbo diesel and a natasp petrol engine, though. In fact, they are common only by name. Tuning will be approached completely differently, and yield very different results.
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Have a remap on a 3.2 certainly gets down the road nicely,but then so does my other unmapped 3.2 and 3.0 cars as the points on my licence will bear witness too ::)
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So if I got a chipped ecu that might improve performance?
Should do Kate, or least the right Chip will, not a masive noticable increase but a better drivability and increased topend. Chipped a few 3.0 now and it will give increased mpg, more noticable when driven normally. :y
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So if I got a chipped ecu that might improve performance?
Should do Kate, or least the right Chip will, not a masive noticable increase but a better drivability and increased topend. Chipped a few 3.0 now and it will give increased mpg, more noticable when driven normally. :y
Thanks.
Where would I get one from?
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The last Superchip I had I sold recently, Ive probably got some Courtaney Sport ones kicking around (which were Mapped by Superchip to there spec) tried both, very simular, both gave better MPG. Currently moving Workshop / Storage so if you could hang on a few weeks for when unbox everything and re organise sruff.