Omega Owners Forum
Trading Area => Car Parts, bits For Sale & Wanted => Topic started by: milcho2005 on 29 April 2014, 10:22:27
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Hi guys i'm looking for Mantzel induction and Stetinmetz Saloon Facelift Front,rear bumpers and side Skirts.For offers please PM me or Milcho2005@abv.bg
(http://www.mantzel.de/tuning-shop/bilder/produkte/gross/894_1.jpg)
(http://www.club-opel.com/graphics/gallery/full/194_stomega-facesedan.jpg)
(http://www.advent.jp/html/product/img/ste/omega_b/3.jpg)
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steinmetz body kit ok,
mantzel induction you will gain next to nothing..
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What do you mean nothing?I had on my Vectra X30XE with custom induction like the Mantzel one and a lightweight flywheel it gained 223 BHP on the Dyno
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"it gained 223 BHP"
I don't think it *gained* 223bhp... 223bhp total?! ???
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Yes,sorry for the bad English :)
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Body kit is hard to come by, some may say rare :o
Induction thingy, not worth it. Might as well buy some magic beans, that will help performance just as much :y
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this air box wont create any extra power.. if you fill it up with water and compare to your original tubes you wont see an important volume increase..
plus if you want to increase induction pressure to replicate helmholtz resonance this design is wrong.. the only effect it may have (in case it has higher volume) is momentary throttle response (which is also dependant on other factors) ..
as for the dyno results,most of them are rarely calibrated frequently and the results are valid if yours is manual.. measuring autos on dyno may lead to very misleading results..
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if the box wont work company like Mantzel wont bring this on market,
to get best of box you need get car (ecu) remap or chip
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if the box wont work company like Mantzel wont bring this on market,
to get best of box you need get car (ecu) remap or chip
Serek , I know you are a knowledgeable man.. but those companies had to earn money.. I have spent lots of time reading searching on those na inlet manifold mods and never seen some racer or company using this sh*t design..
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Mantzel Boxes quiet rare now, might be worth PM'ing Paul K, member on here, as I believe He got something similar made up from scratch.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=117991.0
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not mine but like this.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-omega-b-steinmetz-kit-/301163558581?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item461ebf36b5 ???
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not mine but like this.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-omega-b-steinmetz-kit-/301163558581?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item461ebf36b5 ???
Sorry, it said it did not fit his car which was a facelift :-\
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if the box wont work company like Mantzel wont bring this on market,
to get best of box you need get car (ecu) remap or chip
Serek , I know you are a knowledgeable man.. but those companies had to earn money.. I have spent lots of time reading searching on those na inlet manifold mods and never seen some racer or company using this sh*t design..
we have to remember cem is a "doctor""a painter""and now an engine tuner" also does a lot of internet research so must be true ;D
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Mantzel is a very respectable Opel tuner.Also i have a living proof that it gains BHP,so no need to convince me that it won't work. :)
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Mantzel is a very respectable Opel tuner.Also i have a living proof that it gains BHP,so no need to convince me that it won't work. :)
only cem needs convincing.
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Mantzel is a very respectable Opel tuner.Also i have a living proof that it gains BHP,so no need to convince me that it won't work. :)
go on then.. spend your money ;)
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if the box wont work company like Mantzel wont bring this on market,
to get best of box you need get car (ecu) remap or chip
Serek , I know you are a knowledgeable man.. but those companies had to earn money.. I have spent lots of time reading searching on those na inlet manifold mods and never seen some racer or company using this sh*t design..
we have to remember cem is a "doctor""a painter""and now an engine tuner" also does a lot of internet research so must be true ;D
painter: I have enough hands on the job experience and before that have read lots of pages
doctor : unfortunately have experienced lots of problems in the family and corrected/fixed at least 2 doctors fatal mistake .. and I read may be more than a graduate..
I dont claim to be tuner but I'm an engineer and no need to be too wise for a sh*t design.. ;D if you are interested what the members think about that box, go on find the related gallery topic and read the discussions.. so many members have the same idea as me.. ;)
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and finally , do you think, if that simple box would work and make some serious gains, would the vx/opel engineers go in the hassle of design of that complicated inlet with many tubings and control mechanisms ?
have a look at this, does it look familiar ?
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/INLETdesign_zpsfa85708f.jpg)
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What a surprise! Another thread that has opinions everywhere even when they wasn't asked for! Let him spend his money how he wants >:( :o ::)
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Well i will buy a new Mantzel.When i Put it i will Post the Dyno graphics with and without the Ugly piece of Sh*t that the stupid German tuners made :) Still looking for a Steinmetz body kit!
Cheers
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just an information ,
1.you may gain some small power gains because of very short tubing and cone filter on high rpm range but not because of that box..
2. you may also loose some power because your filter may suck hot air if not designed properly..
3 definitely you will loose low rpm torque which will effect your fuel..
but if you want something proper, this is a power box which is hard to use on V6 because of limited space and will be really costly
if you want to spend money do something like that
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/V6INLETDESIGN_zps9312c828.jpg)