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Title: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: tigers_gonads on 01 May 2014, 10:53:22
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-2 7215508

I bet the mother of the 11 month old rape victim, and family of the 19 year old murder victim, were upset  ;)
Title: Re: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: Stemo on 01 May 2014, 11:32:07
Link not working but I know which story you were taking about. This one:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-27225994
Title: Re: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 May 2014, 11:37:04
What I can't understand is that you can take a pet to the vets and, when the time comes that they can do no more for it, they administer an injection and it's "goodnight vienna" in seconds with no further suffering or complications.

How do they make such a meal of it with a human? ::)
Title: Re: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: Andy B on 01 May 2014, 11:55:30
....
.... and it's "goodnight vienna" in seconds with no further suffering or complications.
 ......

Far faster than I was prepared for  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: ted_one on 01 May 2014, 12:26:48
The Chinese way is the best,you can't dodge a shower of hot lead from the good old AK47,and then they whip your body away a bit sharpish for the organ retrieval side of things,no donor cards needed...jobs a good un! :y
Title: Re: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: Rog on 01 May 2014, 12:47:09
....
.... and it's "goodnight vienna" in seconds with no further suffering or complications.
 ......

Far faster than I was prepared for  :'(  :'(

I've seen this twice with elderly dogs with major health problems

The first time the vet gave a sedative some minutes before the lethal injection. The second time there was no sedative. But in both cases the lethal injection did the job (sorry to be so blunt), they were both my dogs and dear friends  :'(

Maybe with humans it's more like the first than the second ? An attempt to "be nice" and "soften the blow". It didn't work though did it ? It's probably done so that the executors feel better about things, rather than for the benefit of the executed.

I've got a good idea  ::) Lets bring back public guillotining. The guillotine is quick and it works  :y, and the cost of the execution can be offset by charging for tickets  :y   :y   :y Mr Osborne would like that  ::)

Incidentally . . . . .  ::) it is generally thought that the guillotine was a French invention, in fact one of the first recorded uses of a similar device for beheading was in . . . . Halifax ! and long before the French revolution. There's your trivia for the day


Title: Re: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 May 2014, 14:31:34
Slaughter houses apparently do a quick humane job too!  :y
Title: Re: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 May 2014, 15:04:14
Slaughter houses apparently do a quick humane job too!  :y

Hmm. I certainly won't be eating Findus Lasagne if that idea catches on. ;D
Title: Re: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 01 May 2014, 15:41:00
I dont find myself getting concerned with news articales staing 'botched execution results in death of condemned man'

Now a botched execution that resulted in the survival of a condemned man would be a different matter !
Title: Re: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: Bigron on 01 May 2014, 15:49:35
If he buried a 19 year old girl alive so that she would die slowly and painfully, should we have any sympathy over the way that this vile criminal died?

Ron.
Title: Re: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: henryd on 01 May 2014, 17:42:06
If he buried a 19 year old girl alive so that she would die slowly and painfully, should we have any sympathy over the way that this vile criminal died?

Ron.

Very true,F**k him,I hope it hurt.
Title: Re: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: SteveAvfc. on 01 May 2014, 20:18:45
Slaughter houses apparently do a quick humane job too!  :y

Ah my field of expertise was a casualty slaughterman for best part of 10 yrs and would go to farms putting down poorly animals, put down some hefty old bulls to i can tell you. The guns we used took no prisoners would do a great job on some of the scum that are out there nowadays. Would apply for the job should one ever come up.  >:( >:(   
Title: Re: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 01 May 2014, 21:40:51
eye to an eye is not justice..


and a civilized community can never go down to the level of a criminal..
Title: Re: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: Rog on 01 May 2014, 22:17:54
eye to an eye is not justice..


and a civilized community can never go down to the level of a criminal..

Oh, so no guillotines then  . . . . .  :(

Title: Re: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: 05omegav6 on 01 May 2014, 22:31:32
eye to an eye is not justice..


and a civilized community can never go down to the level of a criminal..

Oh, so no guillotines then  . . . . .  :(
Pish... politicians are barely civilised. It's all a matter of perspective... chopping someones head off could be good or bad. Simply depends on whose head. If it's not yours then all is well.

The death penalty cannot undo that which has been done. It won't bring victims back/rebuild lives etc, but it does offer a deterrent of sorts, and also gives a conclusion to events. There's no coming back from a death sentence. Here without a death penalty, there's always a chance that the perpetrator may be released, no matter how vile the crime.

It's tempting to go down the torture route, skinning alive/castrating/weak poisons etc, but that would be barbarism pure and simple. A single bullet to the head, followed by immediate organ harvesting. That way the condemned might at last serve society in a beneficial way, whilst giving victims and their relatives some sense of closure :-\
Title: Re: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 May 2014, 22:44:38
I don't support the death penalty at all, but when we have a 15 year old kid murdering his teacher in front of the class, you have to wonder whether there is any fear of the criminal justice system in this country.  :-\
Title: Re: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: 05omegav6 on 01 May 2014, 22:49:04
There's certainly no respect of it :-\
Title: Re: For supporters of the death penalty
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 02 May 2014, 20:06:00
If you've read the Green Mile, it gives a plausible explanation - wouldn't be too difficult for someone to "accidentally" slip and burst the vein...