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Title: Plastering Costs
Post by: tunnie on 05 May 2014, 14:33:16
I'm considering getting the walls inside my conservatory plastered, it was added by the previous owner. It's nice, but the exposed brick for me does not make it feel part of the house. I'd like it smooth plastered like the rest.

I'm thinking plaster is better than insulated/boarded?  :-\

Thing is I've no idea for plastering if I'm looking at £2k or £500  :-\  :-[ :-[

Maybe one for AndyRoid to recommend a builder?  :y

Very rough dimensions here:

A being biggest wall against the garage, B the small wall built to accommodate the conservatory and finally C, being the house back wall. 

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/803897/NewHouse/Upgrades/PlasteringSizes.jpg)

Any thoughts, recommendations/costs welcome  :y :y
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: steve6367 on 05 May 2014, 14:50:27
We had our bathroom done, all 4 walls and ceiling including dry lining the 2 outside walls due to their condition. Just under £500 all in.

However we have now moved onto the kitchen and I would like base and then skim, no plasterboard which seems to push the price up astronomically!

Steve
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: tunnie on 05 May 2014, 15:01:48
Guessing longer time of job, when it needs a base too?
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: Stemo on 05 May 2014, 18:38:36
Exposed brickwork cannot just be plastered. It's either render and skim or board and skim.
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: biggriffin on 05 May 2014, 18:39:53
Plasterer i use,charges, £140 a day.
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: tunnie on 05 May 2014, 18:42:55
Exposed brickwork cannot just be plastered. It's either render and skim or board and skim.

Any recommendations for conservatory use? Given it already has power sockets, leccy heaters and lights in there. Guess they would need to be removed anyway.
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: Stemo on 05 May 2014, 18:49:25
Exposed brickwork cannot just be plastered. It's either render and skim or board and skim.

Any recommendations for conservatory use? Given it already has power sockets, leccy heaters and lights in there. Guess they would need to be removed anyway.
Yes, you can't just work around them. If you get hold of a plasterer he may want an electrician to do all that...more money.
These jobs are not five minute ones. If it needs to be done it needs to be done properly or you'll have problems later, not least when the time comes to move on.

Are you sure you can't live with that brickwork?  ;D
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: tunnie on 05 May 2014, 18:56:20
Looking at the expanding list of jobs/costs I think I might, need painting of course afterwards too.  ;D

Just prefer if it matched the rest of the house. I was thinking of putting a sofa against one wall, maybe putting a picture up would be cheaper  ;D ;D

It does not look so bad currently...

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/803897/NewHouse/Photos/Dashwood/99689_3090466_IMG_00_0002_max_620x414.jpg)
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: Stemo on 05 May 2014, 19:06:09
You could always paint the brickwork but, if you didn't like the result..well....it would be hard luck.
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: tunnie on 05 May 2014, 19:09:11
You could always paint the brickwork but, if you didn't like the result..well....it would be hard luck.

Thing is the whole of the downstairs is smooth white plasterboard, be good if matched. Plus if boarded, some winter insulation would be nice in there.
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: Stemo on 05 May 2014, 19:22:51
You could always paint the brickwork but, if you didn't like the result..well....it would be hard luck.

Thing is the whole of the downstairs is smooth white plasterboard, be good if matched. Plus if boarded, some winter insulation would be nice in there.
Well....get a man round and talk through all the options. Patience is the name of the game. Get it right first time, then you'll be happy with it.
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: tunnie on 05 May 2014, 19:27:19
You could always paint the brickwork but, if you didn't like the result..well....it would be hard luck.

Thing is the whole of the downstairs is smooth white plasterboard, be good if matched. Plus if boarded, some winter insulation would be nice in there.
Well....get a man round and talk through all the options. Patience is the name of the game. Get it right first time, then you'll be happy with it.

Yup, spot on.  :y

Andyroid has recommended some great tradesmen in the past, bloke who re-did tiles and plastering in bathroom at my flat did top work for great price.

Was looking for ball park price, as there are a number of jobs on the 'to-do' list. Had no idea if I was looking at £2k or £750 notes  :)
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: Gaffers on 05 May 2014, 19:44:21
Why not look at the plasterboard option, easier to sort out the electrics and you can add extra insulation to help reduce the heat loss :y
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: tunnie on 05 May 2014, 19:45:46
Why not look at the plasterboard option, easier to sort out the electrics and you can add extra insulation to help reduce the heat loss :y

That was one idea, make it warmer in the winter. Think I need to get a few people around to cost it up.
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 May 2014, 20:35:59
Dob and dab board plus skim for that,  about 300-400 I would say.  Insulation will make bog all difference seeing as it's a house wall and conservatories are about as well insulated as a coal shed.
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: tunnie on 05 May 2014, 21:35:44
Dob and dab board plus skim for that,  about 300-400 I would say.  Insulation will make bog all difference seeing as it's a house wall and conservatories are about as well insulated as a coal shed.

Cheers Mark, that's a lot cheaper than I was expecting  :o
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: Bigron on 05 May 2014, 21:47:46
Tunnie, have you considered tongued-and-grooved timber cladding? In the space between the battens you could use rockwool for insulation and it would be relatively easy to accommodate any electrical fittings - just remove them, cut a suitable hole in the wood and refix them. As you wouldn't be adding to an existing installation, merely temporarily moving it, you are allowed to do the electrical work yourself.

Ron.
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: Stemo on 05 May 2014, 21:50:34
Swedish sauna look......hmmmm... ;D
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: tunnie on 05 May 2014, 22:09:46
Tunnie, have you considered tongued-and-grooved timber cladding? In the space between the battens you could use rockwool for insulation and it would be relatively easy to accommodate any electrical fittings - just remove them, cut a suitable hole in the wood and refix them. As you wouldn't be adding to an existing installation, merely temporarily moving it, you are allowed to do the electrical work yourself.

Ron.

Not really to be honest, it's not a look we are after really.

Prefer nice smooth white walls  :)

Thanks for the suggestion though  :y

Yes, I think I only need a sparky if I'm making a change to a current circuit  :)
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: aaronjb on 06 May 2014, 07:33:05
Unless conservatories count as 'outbuildings', in which case you'd need a spark for anything I believe.. officially speaking, anyway.
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 May 2014, 09:18:03
Unless conservatories count as 'outbuildings', in which case you'd need a spark for anything I believe.. officially speaking, anyway.

Which they do in reality as the regs consider tham as sheds (and hence why you need external doors between them and the main house, insurance compainies require said doors to be locked and why they have the insultaion properties of an empty coke bottle).

The only saving grace is that they are connected to the house and hence not remote and how you get around the 'outbuildings' bit, they are a 'lean to'.
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: tunnie on 06 May 2014, 10:49:22
If I was going to do it, I would have done a brick extension with roof light things, about 3, but like the setup at the moment with a sloping roof.

It's a nice space, we are only just starting to use it really.

So when someone dots & dabs the plasterboard, would they expect to have sockets/heaters removed?  :-\
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 May 2014, 11:14:05
A blank wall needed. For sockets, I usualy remove the socket/switch and replace with terminal blocks for ease, they will cut the plasterboard around the socket and then following completion, you refit the sockets/switches.
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: tunnie on 06 May 2014, 11:18:49
A blank wall needed. For sockets, I usualy remove the socket/switch and replace with terminal blocks for ease, they will cut the plasterboard around the socket and then following completion, you refit the sockets/switches.

Thanks again  :y

Also need to remove the useless electric heaters they put in, we tried them out, bit crap. Think they are uber expensive on leccy too.
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 May 2014, 11:52:11
A blank wall needed. For sockets, I usualy remove the socket/switch and replace with terminal blocks for ease, they will cut the plasterboard around the socket and then following completion, you refit the sockets/switches.

Thanks again  :y

Also need to remove the useless electric heaters they put in, we tried them out, bit crap. Think they are uber expensive on leccy too.

Electric heaters are 100% efficient  :y

The cost is down to the ability (or not as the case is) of the conservatory to keep the heat in (which they dont do very well)
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: Kevin Wood on 06 May 2014, 12:53:33
Conservatories are, unfortunately, freezing cold in winter, no matter what you do, and boiling hot in summer, no matter what you do. ;)
Title: Re: Plastering Costs
Post by: tunnie on 06 May 2014, 13:44:44
A blank wall needed. For sockets, I usualy remove the socket/switch and replace with terminal blocks for ease, they will cut the plasterboard around the socket and then following completion, you refit the sockets/switches.

Thanks again  :y

Also need to remove the useless electric heaters they put in, we tried them out, bit crap. Think they are uber expensive on leccy too.

Electric heaters are 100% efficient  :y

The cost is down to the ability (or not as the case is) of the conservatory to keep the heat in (which they dont do very well)

Yeah so we've noticed!

Conservatories are, unfortunately, freezing cold in winter, no matter what you do, and boiling hot in summer, no matter what you do. ;)

Does appear the case  :(