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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: omega3000 on 08 May 2014, 10:10:08
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At what point does the Omega become a classic :-\ Who dictates when the car is a classic and becomes tax exempt and cheaper to insure ? My mv will be 18 years old next year so presuming it wont be long before its tax exempt :-\
I think the Omega will become collectable given how many are just being crushed or broken up :'(
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I don't want to disappoint you but:
tax free status is currently pre '74, and is supposed to be a rolling exemption. Which is 40 years. Omegas are a long way off.
Classic status is meaningless, and people apply it to all sorts of stuff. 1100 Allegro anyone?
Collectable? I doubt it. They are at the useful but cheap banger stage. Their status is just to fade into the background. For example, when was the last time you saw a Victor?
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If you can keep it alive for another 22 years it'll become tax exempt.. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vehicle-excise-duty-40-year-rolling-exemption-for-classic-vehicles
"Classic" for insurance depends on the insurer - some were anything over 10 years old, others it's 20 or 25.. there's no real definition.
For me I don't think it'll ever be a "classic" (nor is the Senator, Carlton etc except maybe the Lotus Carlton) - classics are things like your Mk1 Cortinas and the like. But that's a personal thing ;)
[edit] Beaten to it by Nick..
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Would like a Mk 1 cortina :)
Depends now on who's going to keep their Omega the longest .
Will oof be here in another 20 yrs :D
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Not sure I will be here in another 20 years time ;D ;D ;D
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I better be here in,20 years. I want what little pension ive got and enough time to annoy more people :)
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I better be here in,20 years. I want what little pension ive got and enough time to annoy more people :)
Yourve got enough spares in your garage to keep the omega on the road for 50 years ::) ;D
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I don't want to disappoint you but:
tax free status is currently pre '74, and is supposed to be a rolling exemption. Which is 40 years. Omegas are a long way off.
Classic status is meaningless, and people apply it to all sorts of stuff. 1100 Allegro anyone?
Collectable? I doubt it. They are at the useful but cheap banger stage. Their status is just to fade into the background. For example, when was the last time you saw a Victor?
My uncle once owned a 1965 Victor 101. At the time (I was only 5) it looked huge. :y
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Do we think Omega is truly classic car potential? It doesn't seem right somehow.
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At what point does the Omega become a classic :-\ Who dictates when the car is a classic and becomes tax exempt and cheaper to insure ? My mv will be 18 years old next year so presuming it wont be long before its tax exempt :-\
I think the Omega will become collectable given how many are just being crushed or broken up :'(
I hear that 53 plate 2.6 MV6 automatics are very close to reaching 'iconic' status, Mr Emd.
If they are finished in the rare and desirable 'Star silver' then the lucky owner can virtually name his price. :)
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At what point does the Omega become a classic :-\ Who dictates when the car is a classic and becomes tax exempt and cheaper to insure ? My mv will be 18 years old next year so presuming it wont be long before its tax exempt :-\
I think the Omega will become collectable given how many are just being crushed or broken up :'(
I hear that 53 plate 2.6 MV6 automatics are very close to reaching 'iconic' status, Mr Emd.
If they are finished in the rare and desirable 'Star silver' then the lucky owner can virtually name his price. :)
Not as desirable as the golden ones ::) ;D Ive not seen a single one like mine in 6 years :-\ Very collectable indeed :)
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A 'classsic' is anything on four wheels that is in short supply.....(read old)
Like, as already mentioned, the MK1 Cortina. When I was a nipper these mass produced tin-cans were literally 'ten a penny' and virtually worthless.
However, as years turn to decades and more get 'cubed' a miracle takes place. ::) ::) ::) ::)
The MK 1 Cortina/ Viva/ Austin 1100/ Triumph Spitfire/ etc..etc..etc .... suddenly become 'classic cars'... ::) ::) ::) :)
So yes, when only a few hundred Omega remain, it will become a sought after classic. :y :y
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I better be here in,20 years. I want what little pension ive got and enough time to annoy more people :)
Yourve got enough spares in your garage to keep the omega on the road for 50 years ::) ;D
did have but i filled somebodys boot up. :)and had to make room for houseee type tat.
still got 3.0L slowly using up the bits off that. :y
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A few hundred left of these old Omega classics then , i think once they pass 25 years people will look at them more as collectable . Best stock up on a few more spares and rust preventer ;) If you want to donate your car to me mr opti i would be truly thankful ::) :-*
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If you can keep it alive for another 22 years it'll become tax exempt.. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vehicle-excise-duty-40-year-rolling-exemption-for-classic-vehicles
"Classic" for insurance depends on the insurer - some were anything over 10 years old, others it's 20 or 25.. there's no real definition.
For me I don't think it'll ever be a "classic" (nor is the Senator, Carlton etc except maybe the Lotus Carlton) - classics are things like your Mk1 Cortinas and the like. But that's a personal thing ;)
[edit] Beaten to it by Nick..
Because the majority of them - like mine- have succumbed to the Tin worm! :y
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Anybody over the age of 48 and with 2 legs ;D ;D
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A car can succumb to tin worm but not if you got a few buddies and one of them's prepared to teach you welding! Cheers symes :y
I plan on keeping the Omega until the petrol barrels runs out!
Obviously I'm fortunate from being able to learn mechanics but I'm going to use those skills and make sure she's around forever.
As for being a classic.... certainly not at the moment. 20 years time then yes I think so.
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It's down to the insurer really. If it's a second car and doesn't do a huge mileage then it's worth trying a few companies. Let us know what happens as I tried a few years ago without luck.
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Of course it's a classic. Just give it time. The satnav is already. ;)
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Two classics
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6o6iuy3latxxkct/Classicspair.jpg
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I think I've changed my mind about which the .. least good looking Aston ever produced was :o
Sorry! :-X
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I think I've changed my mind about which the .. least good looking Aston ever produced was :o
Sorry! :-X
Like the al-aggro Vanden Plas and the Austin Ambassador, etc., though, It's one of those things from the 70's/80's that it's nice to see around still... If only to remind you that yes, "styling" really was that bad back then. I bet it's a lot nicer to drive, too, and they were rare, even back then so, if you're going to have an '80's icon, I can't think of a better one, TBH. :y
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I'd be tempted by something like this for a classic...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1990-MERCEDES-BENZ-S-CLASS-S420-Business-Edition-4dr-Auto-/261467859837?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3ce0b2eb7d (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1990-MERCEDES-BENZ-S-CLASS-S420-Business-Edition-4dr-Auto-/261467859837?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3ce0b2eb7d)
Think I would have to LPG it though, interior looks like new! How Mercs used to be built as well, should be solid.
Seen a few youTube videos and maintenance looks very straight forward, their brake sensor setup looks way better.
Unlike a modern car, no depreciation if anything, it could gain value.
Lot to be said for a classic :)
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This too, can't see it's value dropping much more. Shame it's only single point LPG..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/W124-MERCEDES-BENZ-300E-74000-MILES-High-Spec-LPG-AIR-CON-Htd-Elec-Leather-/151293905267?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2339d1c973 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/W124-MERCEDES-BENZ-300E-74000-MILES-High-Spec-LPG-AIR-CON-Htd-Elec-Leather-/151293905267?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2339d1c973)
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I would go for one of these , always fancied one :)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-C-MERCEDES-500-SEC-2-DOOR-COUPE-5-0-AUTOMATIC-CLASSIC-SPORTS-IN-BLACK-/261486828270?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3ce1d45aee (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-C-MERCEDES-500-SEC-2-DOOR-COUPE-5-0-AUTOMATIC-CLASSIC-SPORTS-IN-BLACK-/261486828270?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3ce1d45aee)
The old mercs have much more style :y
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Will my frontera 2.2i swb become a classic lol.....
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I think I've changed my mind about which the .. least good looking Aston ever produced was :o
Sorry! :-X
Like the al-aggro Vanden Plas and the Austin Ambassador, etc., though, It's one of those things from the 70's/80's that it's nice to see around still... If only to remind you that yes, "styling" really was that bad back then. I bet it's a lot nicer to drive, too, and they were rare, even back then so, if you're going to have an '80's icon, I can't think of a better one, TBH. :y
Dig that grill and those picnic tables, man. ;D ;D ;D
An abortion on four wheels.
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I would go for one of these , always fancied one :)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-C-MERCEDES-500-SEC-2-DOOR-COUPE-5-0-AUTOMATIC-CLASSIC-SPORTS-IN-BLACK-/261486828270?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3ce1d45aee (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-C-MERCEDES-500-SEC-2-DOOR-COUPE-5-0-AUTOMATIC-CLASSIC-SPORTS-IN-BLACK-/261486828270?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3ce1d45aee)
The old mercs have much more style :y
At that price, what's stopping you?
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I would go for one of these , always fancied one :)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-C-MERCEDES-500-SEC-2-DOOR-COUPE-5-0-AUTOMATIC-CLASSIC-SPORTS-IN-BLACK-/261486828270?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3ce1d45aee (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-C-MERCEDES-500-SEC-2-DOOR-COUPE-5-0-AUTOMATIC-CLASSIC-SPORTS-IN-BLACK-/261486828270?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3ce1d45aee)
The old mercs have much more style :y
At that price, what's stopping you?
That's Mr 99p you're talking to. ;D ;D
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I would go for one of these , always fancied one :)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-C-MERCEDES-500-SEC-2-DOOR-COUPE-5-0-AUTOMATIC-CLASSIC-SPORTS-IN-BLACK-/261486828270?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3ce1d45aee (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-C-MERCEDES-500-SEC-2-DOOR-COUPE-5-0-AUTOMATIC-CLASSIC-SPORTS-IN-BLACK-/261486828270?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3ce1d45aee)
The old mercs have much more style :y
At that price, what's stopping you?
Cant get anymore on the drive :( If i had mr opti's large gravel driveway then sky's the limit ::)
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I would go for one of these , always fancied one :)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-C-MERCEDES-500-SEC-2-DOOR-COUPE-5-0-AUTOMATIC-CLASSIC-SPORTS-IN-BLACK-/261486828270?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3ce1d45aee (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-C-MERCEDES-500-SEC-2-DOOR-COUPE-5-0-AUTOMATIC-CLASSIC-SPORTS-IN-BLACK-/261486828270?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3ce1d45aee)
The old mercs have much more style :y
At that price, what's stopping you?
Cant get anymore on the drive :( If i had mr opti's large gravel driveway then sky's the limit ::)
It is a stylish coupe..... :y
I wouldn't sleep well come MOT time though. :(
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I think they will be, especially mv6 and elites - pfl first then post fl
When did you last see a Nova SR ? Ten a penny a while ago - I saw one for £4,750 recently.i wish I still had my G reg Nova SR in glacier white - but who'd have thought it then they won't get any left
I think rarity and classic status are pretty similar thing
MGBs are classics but there's loads of them !
To me classic car is one that is sought after and very rare - I get more of a buzz seeing rare cars
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Never thought My old Capri 1.6 LS would sell at £200 , now you cant get a decent one for less than a few grand ::) We went to Basildon and back last week and never seen one Omega in 240 miles .. where are they all ::)
After 4 omega's ive decided to keep this one and keep it going even though its a pain in the ass repairing sometimes ::) Maybe it too will be worth £6k+ in the future :D
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I have my 93 saab 9000 on a classic policy so the Omega can't be too far off!