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Title: Omega engine swap for Toyota 1uzfe V8
Post by: Marne on 16 May 2014, 19:57:49
hi guys...i must get straight to the point. I have owned an Opel omega 2.6 for the past 5 years and she has been good to me for all that time. Of recent she has been giving me transmission problems(automatic transmission). I am now thinking of a complete engine and transmission swap for a  Toyota 1uzfe V8 engine...

I am living in Namibia and opel omega transmissions are hard to come by, thus the idea to up power with the Toyota 1uzfe and at the same time mend my transmission problem...

I realy love my omega even if it means driving it with a power plant from toyota...ANYBODY OUT THERE DID IT BEFORE?

Marne
Title: Re: Omega engine swap for Toyota 1uzfe V8
Post by: Varche on 16 May 2014, 20:01:59
Hi welcome to the forum :y

What sort of transmission problems? What is happening?

Has the gearbox oil been changed (Dexron111) ?

I doubt anyone on the forum has done such an engine transplant but I may be proved wrong!!

It might be easier to fix your auto problem.
Title: Re: Omega engine swap for Toyota 1uzfe V8
Post by: Marne on 16 May 2014, 20:09:04
thanks for your reply, I have hade the transmission serviced and a new filleter fitted and since then it has now been poping out of gear so to say. I have also noted an increase in fuel consumption and rough gearing.
Title: Re: Omega engine swap for Toyota 1uzfe V8
Post by: omega3000 on 16 May 2014, 20:51:45
Impressive bit of kit  :y

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/c97e3e77-fb1f-43db-8c2e-4e41adbac168_zpsabd6b527.jpg)
Title: Re: Omega engine swap for Toyota 1uzfe V8
Post by: tunnie on 16 May 2014, 21:48:01
A few V8 jobs have been done, mainly with LS1 or similar. Issue is with routing exhaust manifolds and space.

GM almost released one, but cooling and high speeds were an issue. That Looks like it would be a tight fit
Title: Re: Omega engine swap for Toyota 1uzfe V8
Post by: chrisgixer on 16 May 2014, 21:55:27
Main problems are fitting everything in without fouling the steering box.

Rats omega has a lexus v8. Not sure which engine code though. Fairly sure its double over head cam, so very wide, so they had to fit a steering rack for the project to work.

Yours looks narrower, going by that picture. So might be lucky. Left hand drive helps slightly. :y
Title: Re: Omega engine swap for Toyota 1uzfe V8
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 May 2014, 22:59:02
Left hand drive helps slightly. :y

They drive on the left in Namibia Chris.  ;)  :y
Title: Re: Omega engine swap for Toyota 1uzfe V8
Post by: Marne on 18 May 2014, 14:17:09
My concern is that how difficult it will be to get the speedo and trip computer to work of the 1uzfe engine and transmission...do you guys think it is even possible?

But if it can be done...wow

Title: Re: Omega engine swap for Toyota 1uzfe V8
Post by: Andy H on 18 May 2014, 14:28:12
The Omega speedometer doesn't get the speed from the gearbox it gets the speed from the ABS module (& the ABS module reads the speed of the road wheels).

The speedometer will carry on working just fine :y I don't know if you will be able to get traction control working though :-\
Title: Re: Omega engine swap for Toyota 1uzfe V8
Post by: Marne on 18 May 2014, 14:45:55
Thanks for that reply man...

I think i can live without traction control, that is if there is no way of getting it to work.

and what about the trip computer, would you know where it reads from?
Title: Re: Omega engine swap for Toyota 1uzfe V8
Post by: r1 on 18 May 2014, 15:19:35
  I would be worried on how to wire it up, don't think you can get a manual gear box for this engine as well.
Title: Re: Omega engine swap for Toyota 1uzfe V8
Post by: Andy H on 18 May 2014, 15:24:30
Thanks for that reply man...

I think i can live without traction control, that is if there is no way of getting it to work.

and what about the trip computer, would you know where it reads from?
The same speed pulse goes from the ABS to the speedometer and to the trip computer.
Title: Re: Omega engine swap for Toyota 1uzfe V8
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 May 2014, 20:44:57
I converted mine to manual and sold the auto transmission .. the operation is fairly easy for an avg mechanic..


manual box weights around 30 kgs so cargo cost from mainland or middle east wont be very high


also you will need the shaft from a manual , a pedal and the hydraulic .. the total operation took 2 days.. auto tranny is damn heavy be careful -85 kg-


ps: mid must be re-programmed and if you also buy a manual ecu you can easily remove auto tranny ecu from the dash (which I did)


but changing whole engine and tranny at a time is a big job really.. most of your sensors, speedo and loom even sockets wont match
can be done but it will take long time.. if you decide for that route find a working 1uzfe  example and transfer one by one..
Title: Re: Omega engine swap for Toyota 1uzfe V8
Post by: Andy H on 18 May 2014, 22:09:25
I converted mine to manual and sold the auto transmission .. the operation is fairly easy for an avg mechanic..


manual box weights around 30 kgs so cargo cost from mainland or middle east wont be very high


also you will need the shaft from a manual , a pedal and the hydraulic .. the total operation took 2 days.. auto tranny is damn heavy be careful -85 kg-


ps: mid must be re-programmed and if you also buy a manual ecu you can easily remove auto tranny ecu from the dash (which I did)


but changing whole engine and tranny at a time is a big job really.. most of your sensors, speedo and loom even sockets wont match
can be done but it will take long time.. if you decide for that route find a working 1uzfe  example and transfer one by one..
Cem - the Omega speedo is driven by the ABS/wheel sensors. It doesn't use a sensor in the gearbox.
Title: Re: Omega engine swap for Toyota 1uzfe V8
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 May 2014, 22:41:33
I converted mine to manual and sold the auto transmission .. the operation is fairly easy for an avg mechanic..


manual box weights around 30 kgs so cargo cost from mainland or middle east wont be very high


also you will need the shaft from a manual , a pedal and the hydraulic .. the total operation took 2 days.. auto tranny is damn heavy be careful -85 kg-


ps: mid must be re-programmed and if you also buy a manual ecu you can easily remove auto tranny ecu from the dash (which I did)


but changing whole engine and tranny at a time is a big job really.. most of your sensors, speedo and loom even sockets wont match
can be done but it will take long time.. if you decide for that route find a working 1uzfe  example and transfer one by one..
Cem - the Omega speedo is driven by the ABS/wheel sensors. It doesn't use a sensor in the gearbox.




thanks Andy, I know :y
Title: Re: Omega engine swap for Toyota 1uzfe V8
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 19 May 2014, 01:34:06

I think i can live without traction control, that is if there is no way of getting it to work.


So you don't go up the Skeleton Coast much then?  ???  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Omega engine swap for Toyota 1uzfe V8
Post by: Marne on 21 May 2014, 09:29:45
I have been to the skeleton coast three times...I really love the isolation there, but you need an AWD vehicle. I you been there Sir Tigger?

Any way I use the omega as a long distance cruiser when I visit other towns...the omega is in its element for long distance driving. Namibia has long open distance between towns which the omega eats up with ease and comfort.