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Title: door not unlock
Post by: mick-1975 on 07 June 2014, 21:12:52
Evening all I have just been to the shop and I have been back to the car to get in and the drivers door will not open
the lock goes up and down but will not open the door .

  Any advice please as got to climb over passenget seat  cleaned it today and all fine how can I get the door open to fix this problem
 Mick
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: robson on 07 June 2014, 22:42:55
Have you tried unlocking with key.
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: mick-1975 on 07 June 2014, 23:41:27
Yes tried key still not open . The knob on the door goes up and down but still not open
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: flyer 0712 on 08 June 2014, 00:15:40
So the door pin comes up when unlocking  ??????     but does the door outer handle have resistance against it when you lift it to open the door.....if it floppy then the wire from the handle that goes down inside the door may have come adrift.....or there is i believe an adjusting peg that when you lift on the handle it drops down onto the lock and unlocks the door and maybe that has broken :-\ :-\
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: mick-1975 on 08 June 2014, 10:45:23
Yes door pin goes up and down when locking and unlocking .  The door handle moves like normal no resistance at all does seem loose to be fair .
I need to get the panel off so I can have a look.
  The problem is how can I get the panel off while the door is closed without breaking it.
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: davieboy0312 on 08 June 2014, 11:02:02
Cant you open from inside? By going through passenger side?
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: mick-1975 on 08 June 2014, 11:31:58
No both handles just move feel like they still connected but not release the lock
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: davieboy0312 on 08 June 2014, 11:58:14
Getting the panel off when door is shut ain't going to be easy mate
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: zirk on 08 June 2014, 12:04:21
Getting the panel off when door is shut ain't going to be easy mate
If your definitely locked out and its a FL saloon, I have a way of getting in, but your need some tools.

Edit:, Ok cancel that sounds like your inside the car.  ;)
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: mick-1975 on 08 June 2014, 16:08:29
Yes I csn get in climb over passenger seat. 
Its a facelift estate x reg 2.2
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: mick-1975 on 08 June 2014, 18:09:16
Any ideas on how to remove door panel when doir is closed ??
 Otherwise looks like I might need a new door panel ad I shall have to break it
. The good side to it is that I can still use it .
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: davieboy0312 on 08 June 2014, 19:17:40
Can think of anyway of doing it without damaging something mate.
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: martin42 on 08 June 2014, 19:41:02
Sonic screwdriver,that fixes and opens anything,and no mine is not for sale  :y
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: mick-1975 on 08 June 2014, 19:50:47
Lol not need to buy one you can use your tardis and do the job for
 me ... ;D ;D
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: martin42 on 08 June 2014, 20:03:11
No not allowed to change past or future,standard rules apply  ;D
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: martin42 on 08 June 2014, 20:04:05
Umm but i could rip door off tho using the frontera,but thats going to be messy  ;D
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 June 2014, 20:07:25
There is a way, but, in no particular order...

1. I cannot guarantee it will work.
2. you may still need to break summat.
3. Reluctant to share as it exposes a gaping vulnerability in the design.

 :-\

If you double lock the car, then unlock it with the key does the pin move, or is the lock stiff :-\
If the lock is stiff, use more force on the key, ie turn it until it stops, then turn it some more...
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: mick-1975 on 08 June 2014, 20:08:15
I'll pass on that one thanks ... bit cold without a door on pity its not the pasenger door I would take u up on the offer that way when the girlfried is having ago I could push her out lol  ;D
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: mick-1975 on 08 June 2014, 20:09:47
There is a way, but, in no particular order...

1. I cannot guarantee it will work.
2. you may still need to break summat.
3. Reluctant to share as it exposes a gaping vulnerability in the design.

 :-\

If you double lock the car, then unlock it with the key does the pin move, or is the lock stiff :-\
If the lock is stiff, use more force on the key, ie turn it until it stops, then turn it some more...

  Yes if I use the key the door pin still moves up and down but still not release the door lock .
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: mick-1975 on 08 June 2014, 20:14:29
Just been out and tryed with the key again turnrd and a little bit more the door still not open ... also I have noticed that when I lock it with remote it locks sll doors but when I press it again to dead lock the doors nothing works
 
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 June 2014, 20:19:10
To remove the door card violently,  close the window, open the cubby hole, remove the trim by the latch and remove the screw behind it. Then remove the window switch, the triangular plate at the front of the window, the tweeter cover and interior relase handle trim, including any screws you find there, (two Iiirc)and the lock pin, (this is removed by carefully prizing out the red tab, then lifting the pin out).
Next pry the door card away from the bottom edge of the window, this will break the plastic clamping strip.
Make sure the seat is in its lowest/rearmost position, with the backrest angled imnto the back away from the B post.

Having freed the top of the door card and removed all the screws you can, ie 3, pull the door card into the car from the top rear corner. There are two screws in the rear edge, that you need to tear the door card away from. Aim to fold the top corner under the steering wheel. This should give you working space to see what is what :y

I should add, for the sake of clarity, this is the most foolproof way of doing it, and most definitely not the way that I was referring to :y
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: mick-1975 on 08 June 2014, 20:40:36
Thanks I knew I would have to break it and buy a new one. Once I strip it down hopefully I can get the door to open . I.ll shall keep u posted .
Best thing about it I been using it all week and no problems .
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: mick-1975 on 09 June 2014, 17:08:30
UPDATE ON DOOR LOCK
After a nice day in the sun missing the rainy showers I managed to rip the door panel off and with a screwdriver I managed to prize the catch down that the handle moves anx yhe door opened. After looking at it I noticed that the lugthat the handle moves keeps missing it when I lock the doors . I managed to prize the lugs out to catch the handle rod but still no joy . Going to just replace it tomorrow and get 2 door panels hopefully then all be done .
Yhanks for the replys
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 June 2014, 22:12:30
Nice one :y
Title: Re: door not unlock
Post by: flyer 0712 on 09 June 2014, 23:20:18
Well done...where there is a will there is a way.. :y :y