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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Anthony in Madrid on 25 June 2014, 15:44:37
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Hi Guys :y
If I have to tighten nuts and bolts to certain Torque Nb, then how can I figure it out if I don't have any idea as to how much pressure I'm applying? Is there some quick tip to know this or a device to help?
Your input is always a light in the darkness ???
Cheers
Ant
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Torque Wrench? I use Halfords ones, I have two:
8-60 Nm
60-300 Nm
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Torque Wrench? I use Halfords ones, I have two:
8-60 Nm
60-300 Nm
I can't remember as it's ages since I had one (Torque wrench) in my hand (No jokes ???) But do they have indicators or special clicks when the desired Nb is reached?
Cheers
Ant
P.S. I'm in Spain so I'll see if there's a "Halfordos" around the neighbourhood lol!
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Guess that's a stupid question right? :D
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There are two types: the classic 'beam' type with a scale and a pointer, and the micrometer type which clicks. They both have limitations, beam ones need a large scale and a straight pointer. The others depend on a screw and a spring, so damage is less obvious.
Cheap micrometer TWs have pretty much eliminated the beam ones.
The job most of us use them for don't require extreme accuracy, so cheap ones are easily good enough. That's a statement that will have the anoraks frothing at the mouth and building bonfires to burn my effigy, but that doesn't stop it being true!
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There are two types: the classic 'beam' type with a scale and a pointer, and the micrometer type which clicks. They both have limitations, beam ones need a large scale and a straight pointer. The others depend on a screw and a spring, so damage is less obvious.
Cheap micrometer TWs have pretty much eliminated the beam ones.
The job most of us use them for don't require extreme accuracy, so cheap ones are easily good enough. That's a statement that will have the anoraks frothing at the mouth and building bonfires to burn my effigy, but that doesn't stop it being true!
Should I guess the 8Nb for the plenum refitting? :-\
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Cam Covers :y
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Guess the plenum bolts, the 'correct' figure is not important.
8Nm for V6 cam-covers should be done with a torque-wrench, about the only place I bother with such a low figure.
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Guess the plenum bolts, the 'correct' figure is not important.
8Nm for V6 cam-covers should be done with a torque-wrench, about the only place I bother with such a low figure.
:y :y
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There are two types: the classic 'beam' type with a scale and a pointer, and the micrometer type which clicks. They both have limitations, beam ones need a large scale and a straight pointer. The others depend on a screw and a spring, so damage is less obvious.
Cheap micrometer TWs have pretty much eliminated the beam ones.
The job most of us use them for don't require extreme accuracy, so cheap ones are easily good enough. That's a statement that will have the anoraks frothing at the mouth and building bonfires to burn my effigy, but that doesn't stop it being true!
Should I guess the 8Nb for the plenum refitting? :-\
No!
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There are two types: the classic 'beam' type with a scale and a pointer, and the micrometer type which clicks. They both have limitations, beam ones need a large scale and a straight pointer. The others depend on a screw and a spring, so damage is less obvious.
Cheap micrometer TWs have pretty much eliminated the beam ones.
The job most of us use them for don't require extreme accuracy, so cheap ones are easily good enough. That's a statement that will have the anoraks frothing at the mouth and building bonfires to burn my effigy, but that doesn't stop it being true!
Should I guess the 8Nb for the plenum refitting? :-\
No!
Best answer ever in the history of OOF ;D ;D ;D
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There are two types: the classic 'beam' type with a scale and a pointer, and the micrometer type which clicks. They both have limitations, beam ones need a large scale and a straight pointer. The others depend on a screw and a spring, so damage is less obvious.
Cheap micrometer TWs have pretty much eliminated the beam ones.
The job most of us use them for don't require extreme accuracy, so cheap ones are easily good enough. That's a statement that will have the anoraks frothing at the mouth and building bonfires to burn my effigy, but that doesn't stop it being true!
Should I guess the 8Nb for the plenum refitting? :-\
No!
No What? :-\
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There are two types: the classic 'beam' type with a scale and a pointer, and the micrometer type which clicks. They both have limitations, beam ones need a large scale and a straight pointer. The others depend on a screw and a spring, so damage is less obvious.
Cheap micrometer TWs have pretty much eliminated the beam ones.
The job most of us use them for don't require extreme accuracy, so cheap ones are easily good enough. That's a statement that will have the anoraks frothing at the mouth and building bonfires to burn my effigy, but that doesn't stop it being true!
Should I guess the 8Nb for the plenum refitting? :-\
No!
No What? :-\
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Chris plainly means NO you shouldn't guess the torque setting for the cam covers Anthony ::)
In fact ::), "guessing" any torque setting is foolish and unnecessary since torque wrenches can be bought reasonably cheaply :y
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There are two types: the classic 'beam' type with a scale and a pointer, and the micrometer type which clicks. They both have limitations, beam ones need a large scale and a straight pointer. The others depend on a screw and a spring, so damage is less obvious.
Cheap micrometer TWs have pretty much eliminated the beam ones.
The job most of us use them for don't require extreme accuracy, so cheap ones are easily good enough. That's a statement that will have the anoraks frothing at the mouth and building bonfires to burn my effigy, but that doesn't stop it being true!
Should I guess the 8Nb for the plenum refitting? :-\
No!
No What? :-\
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Chris plainly means NO you shouldn't guess the torque setting for the cam covers Anthony ::)
In fact ::), "guessing" any torque setting is foolish and unnecessary since torque wrenches can be bought reasonably cheaply :y
I need to take off the plenum, not cam covers amigo.
That's the only job at the moment.
Do the bolts need an exact Nh?
:-[ :y
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There are two types: the classic 'beam' type with a scale and a pointer, and the micrometer type which clicks. They both have limitations, beam ones need a large scale and a straight pointer. The others depend on a screw and a spring, so damage is less obvious.
Cheap micrometer TWs have pretty much eliminated the beam ones.
The job most of us use them for don't require extreme accuracy, so cheap ones are easily good enough. That's a statement that will have the anoraks frothing at the mouth and building bonfires to burn my effigy, but that doesn't stop it being true!
Should I guess the 8Nb for the plenum refitting? :-\
No!
No What? :-\
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Chris plainly means NO you shouldn't guess the torque setting for the cam covers Anthony ::)
In fact ::), "guessing" any torque setting is foolish and unnecessary since torque wrenches can be bought reasonably cheaply :y
I need to take off the plenum, not cam covers amigo.
That's the only job at the moment.
Do the bolts need an exact Nh?
:-[ :y
These might help :y
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90657.0
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90545.0
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There are two types: the classic 'beam' type with a scale and a pointer, and the micrometer type which clicks. They both have limitations, beam ones need a large scale and a straight pointer. The others depend on a screw and a spring, so damage is less obvious.
Cheap micrometer TWs have pretty much eliminated the beam ones.
The job most of us use them for don't require extreme accuracy, so cheap ones are easily good enough. That's a statement that will have the anoraks frothing at the mouth and building bonfires to burn my effigy, but that doesn't stop it being true!
Should I guess the 8Nb for the plenum refitting? :-\
No!
No What? :-\
[/highlight]
Chris plainly means NO you shouldn't guess the torque setting for the cam covers Anthony ::)
In fact ::), "guessing" any torque setting is foolish and unnecessary since torque wrenches can be bought reasonably cheaply :y
I need to take off the plenum, not cam covers amigo.
That's the only job at the moment.
Do the bolts need an exact Nh?
:-[ :y
These might help :y
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90657.0
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90545.0
Awesome thanks
:y :y :y
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I should digress Anthony, sorry ;D.
The plenum bolts will take a lot more than 8nm. But they only need to be tight enough to compress the rubber seals, and not come undone of course. Just nip them up, they'll be fine.
I was referring to being accurate where ever possible. In short, do what tour doing, and ask first. Find out what's correct. What matters, and what doesn't matter so much. 8nm and no more is important on cam covers. 8nm on plenum bolts is much less important. I've just been nipping them up for years ;) ;D
Do get a torque wrench though. Spark plugs, cam cover bolts, inlet bolts, plastic wedge bolts, associated cam belt fasteners, an 8nm to 60nm wrench will do.
Wheels and suspension you need 110nm for wheel bolts up to 310nm for wheel bearings. The 300nm Halfords ones will do that range with a few extra turns past the last digit. :)
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I should digress Anthony, sorry ;D.
The plenum bolts will take a lot more than 8nm. But they only need to be tight enough to compress the rubber seals, and not come undone of course. Just nip them up, they'll be fine.
I was referring to being accurate where ever possible. In short, do what tour doing, and ask first. Find out what's correct. What matters, and what doesn't matter so much. 8nm and no more is important on cam covers. 8nm on plenum bolts is much less important. I've just been nipping them up for years ;) ;D
Do get a torque wrench though. Spark plugs, cam cover bolts, inlet bolts, plastic wedge bolts, associated cam belt fasteners, an 8nm to 60nm wrench will do.
Wheels and suspension you need 110nm for wheel bolts up to 310nm for wheel bearings. The 300nm Halfords ones will do that range with a few extra turns past the last digit. :)
Thanks amigo :y
But I do agree safe than sorry!
I do intent to buy a couple of wrenches after vacation as they tally up about 140 Euros here for low and high Nm's. Checked them out yesterday. German brands...Of course. The Spaniards love and highly regard German technology and products here. Vorsprung Durch Technik!
Going to be posting pics of the plenum job and DIS check later.
Cheers
Anthony :y