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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Shallow Al on 03 July 2014, 11:29:25

Title: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: Shallow Al on 03 July 2014, 11:29:25
Do JPAT still do parts for the AR35? Can't see it listed on the website.
Probably me though.
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: RobG on 03 July 2014, 11:45:10
http://www.jpat.co.uk/2013_Cat_General_Motors.html

Click on 4L30E
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: Shallow Al on 03 July 2014, 11:52:35
Cheers for that. I was looking for AR35.
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: Temetsy on 03 July 2014, 16:06:08
ar35 is 4l40E I think.
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: chrisgixer on 03 July 2014, 17:38:46
ar35 is 4l40E I think.

Iirc AR35 is GM's description for the BMW 4L40E. Or something like that.
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: VXL V6 on 03 July 2014, 17:45:24
Designation is 4L30 which is a 3L30 with an extra gear bolted onto it (Hence the second sump).

AR35 designed to handle up to 350nm of Torque, AR25 designed to handle up to 250nm of Torque.

Only real difference on the BMW version (Although they are all made by GM in France) is the inclusion of a drain plug and the fact BMW only used the AR35.

What I'd like to know more about is the 5L40 fitted to certain 2.5DTi's and some 3.2 V6's (Hans V6's had one on his 3.2) in other countries.
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: chrisgixer on 03 July 2014, 17:48:43
Interesting. Theory here was there's no software to run that box on anything other than the 2.5Dti :-\
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: VXL V6 on 03 July 2014, 17:51:31
If you look back on here for the pictures posted of his 3.2 you'll see the gearbox selector clearly states 4/3/2 whereas ours all have 3/2/1
 
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3357/hpim7100ly3.jpg)
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: chrisgixer on 03 July 2014, 17:54:54
So if an official GM release and not a retro fit, there must be software available.

Is that an ESP symbol as well?
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: VXL V6 on 03 July 2014, 18:01:17
Yep ESP fitted.
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 July 2014, 18:02:05
Indeed it is, but it must be imaginary as that doesn't exist either ::)
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: chrisgixer on 03 July 2014, 18:03:21
Indeed it is, but it must be imaginary as that doesn't exist in the uk either ::)

Fixed ;)
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 July 2014, 18:29:18
Indeed it is, but it must be imaginary as that doesn't exist in the uk either ::)

Fixed ;)
Mental note to self... acquire an ESP switch to confuddle TB at Newent ;D
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: chrisgixer on 03 July 2014, 19:26:17
...and the gear indicator. ;D
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 July 2014, 19:28:58
...and the gear indicator. ;D
If fitted to TBE... mine already has five forward gears ;D
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: chrisgixer on 03 July 2014, 19:33:31
The gears are fine. It's the Edwardian but in between.


I really can NOT be arsed with a manual for road use. Auto aaaaall day long.
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 July 2014, 20:00:18
The gears are fine. It's the Edwardian but in between.


I really can NOT be arsed with a manual for road use. Auto aaaaall day long.
;D no Edwardian rubber here tyvm :y
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: chrisgixer on 03 July 2014, 20:22:13
The gears are fine. It's the Edwardian but in between.


I really can NOT be arsed with a manual for road use. Auto aaaaall day long.
;D no Edwardian rubber here tyvm :y
Did the Edwardians have rubber? I'm sure those rubber lever bushes are meant to improve things ;)
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 July 2014, 20:36:49
The gears are fine. It's the Edwardian but in between.


I really can NOT be arsed with a manual for road use. Auto aaaaall day long.
;D no Edwardian rubber here tyvm :y
Did the Edwardians have rubber? I'm sure those rubber lever bushes are meant to improve things ;)
As slick as a well oiled Winchester without it :y
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: chrisgixer on 03 July 2014, 20:45:34
My auto is slicker. I don't even have to move. :P

It's one thing being "involved" but quite another kneeing myself in the chin 5 times to get above 70 :P  ( ;D )
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 July 2014, 20:48:00
My auto is slicker. I don't even have to move. :P

It's one thing being "involved" but quite another kneeing myself in the chin once to get above 70 :P  ( ;D )
Fixed ;D
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: biggriffin on 03 July 2014, 21:00:52
autos were that good the FIA banned them from F1,GROUP C, RALLYING, etc. Auto is sooo much better, even Volvo,Daf, Scarnia think so too. :y
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: TheBoy on 04 July 2014, 08:05:16
To clarify again, there is *NO* GM software to allow the 5 speed auto to be fitted to anything other than a 2.5DTi

I never much doubt, seeing as the Omega stopped production over 10yrs ago, and it was never a marketed configuration, that GM will ever develop and release software for it.
Title: Re: JPAT auto box parts
Post by: B-Buster on 11 July 2014, 14:28:51
If you look back on here for the pictures posted of his 3.2 you'll see the gearbox selector clearly states 4/3/2 whereas ours all have 3/2/1
 
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3357/hpim7100ly3.jpg)

This was just the frame / indicator taken from an 2.5DTI which was placed in the 3.2 as a joke, it doesn't actually have a 5spd auto.