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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: tunnie on 04 July 2014, 22:20:23
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Firstly big, big thanks to Josh and Little fatty for their help today, my plan to get the old Elite Estate MotherT had going again, did not exactly go to plan ::)
Put a new battery on, started first flick and sounded sweet. On way to jet wash, it stalled, would not restart. After a tow (with BP's world shittest tow rope) in BP it started again. Classic Crank sensor failure (although no code)
Chatting up a fatty little admin, got me a shinny new crank sensor. However, same problem, starting is an issue. We found that wiggling the crank loom/plug, it could splutter into life. Infact we did this, slammed bonnet shut and I did the fastest reverse and park on drive ever, just before it stalled again ::) ;D
Spotted this on the loom....
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/803897/Omega/Electrical/2014-07-04%2018.13.10.jpg)
Suspect this is the issue?
Sometimes it will start fine, but randomly conk out and refuse to start, unless a bit of jiggling with that loom.
Thoughts?
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Can you not knife the sheathing back and then solder up :-\
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Boy you were lucky to find that so quick.
Nothing like an intermittent electrical fault to ruin your week.
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Sorry I missed your text in the evening (presumably), no phone signal at the pub ABS use for the local meet (on any network).
As said in reply, it may be repairable, but check the condition of other wires. Might be easier, if you are suspect of the loom in general to just replace it completely... ...though for that, if rest of loom is fine, I think I'd repair.
The pic is a bit shit, is that coax of normal wire?
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Think it's normal wire :-\
Problem is through in ABS ECU feked now, I think most of the nails are in the coffin now for it.
Time is my enemy really, so little spare to pop back.
Think we will be down to one Omega soon :o
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Firstly big, big thanks to Josh and Little fatty for their help today, my plan to get the old Elite Estate MotherT had going again, did not exactly go to plan ::)
Put a new battery on, started first flick and sounded sweet. On way to jet wash, it stalled, would not restart. After a tow (with BP's world shittest tow rope) in BP it started again. Classic Crank sensor failure (although no code)
Chatting up a fatty little admin, got me a shinny new crank sensor. However, same problem, starting is an issue. We found that wiggling the crank loom/plug, it could splutter into life. Infact we did this, slammed bonnet shut and I did the fastest reverse and park on drive ever, just before it stalled again ::) ;D
Spotted this on the loom....
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/803897/Omega/Electrical/2014-07-04%2018.13.10.jpg)
Suspect this is the issue?
Sometimes it will start fine, but randomly conk out and refuse to start, unless a bit of jiggling with that loom.
Thoughts?
Disconnect battery - lift out & unplug ECU.
Use a multimeter and a bit of dexterity to measure resistance in the wires between crank sensor plug & ECU multiplug. For each wire get the multimeter test leads securely attached and then work the loom to check for intermittent connection.
Can't help re lack of time, I haven't got time to fart at the moment.
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Surely it would be possible to get the plug with a length of loom from a breaker and graft it onto the existing loom?
Even if there is a coax cable in the loom (which there probably is for shielding purposes), moving the join further back away from the plug is going to make the join solution a lot easier to implement.
Appreciate it needs an ABS ECU repair as well but seems that with two repairs carried out the car would be good again?
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Yep basically. But lack of time an issue, for at least next 6 weeks.
Cost to, I'd have to pay to get ABS ECU fixed, plus a replacement. I know how much of bastid that job is.
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Bloody site cheaper than a v90 ;)
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V70 ;)
True. But its one thing after another with the Estate recently. The CID has been a little flaky too.
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Boy you were lucky to find that so quick.
Nothing like an intermittent electrical fault to ruin your week.
You're not wrong! A minor wiring issue had my old Tddi Mk3 Mondeo off the road for 9 months.
The moment of elation when you find the problem and fix it was boarder line orgasmic though ;D
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Yep basically. But lack of time an issue, for at least next 6 weeks.
Cost to, I'd have to pay to get ABS ECU fixed, plus a replacement. I know how much of bastid that job is.
Bugger of a job but if the car isn't in daily use you can at least take your time without having to put the car back to a useable state between removal / refitting of the ECU.
If the CID is failing, I have a stack of GID's here as a 'get you by' measure.
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A good second hand loom could be fitted in the time it takes for you to change your mind ::) ie ten minutes ;D
Abs ecu is hardly unheard of... four screws, a bit of postage and it's off to be fixed, a week later it's back in the car and working...
Really not sure what's so complicated tbh :-\
Besides, the rest of the car is uptogether, so what if your free car becomes a £300 one... the car is well known to you and therefore probably the safest second hand car on the market :y
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Yep, or the bit of broken loom could be repaired, bit of heat shrink over it and as good as new. Again, 10 minutes.
ABS ECU is an hour or two to get the ECU out, then same to put it back after refurb. Hardly a reason to give up and buy a Vulvaolvo. ::) Actually, for gadget hands, it's be a walk in the park. ;D
ABS ECU doesn't immobilise it either. With a bit of care you can use it while it's off for a refurb. :-X
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A good second hand loom could be fitted in the time it takes for you to change your mind ::) ie ten minutes ;D
Abs ecu is hardly unheard of... four screws, a bit of postage and it's off to be fixed, a week later it's back in the car and working...
Really not sure what's so complicated tbh :-\
Besides, the rest of the car is uptogether, so what if your free car becomes a £300 one... the car is well known to you and therefore probably the safest second hand car on the market :y
When did you last do one? 6 screws - the bottom 2 being a "by feel only" removal. Top marks if you get all 6 back in - last time I did one gave up with the sixth ;)
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A good second hand loom could be fitted in the time it takes for you to change your mind ::) ie ten minutes ;D
Abs ecu is hardly unheard of... four screws, a bit of postage and it's off to be fixed, a week later it's back in the car and working...
Really not sure what's so complicated tbh :-\
Besides, the rest of the car is uptogether, so what if your free car becomes a £300 one... the car is well known to you and therefore probably the safest second hand car on the market :y
When did you last do one? 6 screws - the bottom 2 being a "by feel only" removal. Top marks if you get all 6 back in - last time I did one gave up with the sixth ;)
Top marks to me then. Plus it was pissing down ;D
Tunnie, I still have my fubar one here (3.0l auto, ident DX), so you could get that refurbed, and do the removal/refit on same day. Then just give me your fubar one back (I had intended to get it refurbed, so I have a spare when it fails again).
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Very kind, thanks :y
Think I will see how next few weeks go, using the 3.2 for extended trips with roof box.
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Reading this, it was not to the last post that I think this is on the 2.2? I only have ABS ecu's for 2.2dti, 3.2 and 2.6 any of them any good?
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No, its a 3.0 :y
Thanks though :)
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Haven't you fixed it yet ::)