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Title: Fruit and veg
Post by: omega3000 on 15 July 2014, 12:53:21
Dwarf beans , cucumber , tomatoes , lettuce , strawberries and hot peppers all doing remarkably well . Just took the beans outside to grow .
Question is will the tomato plant be ok to put outside now as its growing mental and needs more space  :-\
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 July 2014, 13:06:12
It'll be fine!  :y
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: omega3000 on 15 July 2014, 13:07:32
It'll be fine!  :y

Lovely  :-* Hope them pesky bugs dont eat it now  ::) :y But i have the bug spray zapper to hand ..
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 July 2014, 13:48:20
Dwarf beans , cucumber , tomatoes , lettuce , strawberries and hot peppers all doing remarkably well . Just took the beans outside to grow .
Question is will the tomato plant be ok to put outside now as its growing mental and needs more space  :-\

Answer me this, Mr Emd?

Why are most supermarket toms (especially the variety they call salad tomatoes) so fooking tasteless?... :-\ :-\   
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: Varche on 15 July 2014, 14:28:37
I'd say they are tasteless because the modern varieties are disease resistant, crop well and most importantly travel well.  Taste is low on priorities. If you ever fly into Spain via Almeria airport you fly over what looks like a giant lake. Close up it is actually hundreds of acres of plastic greenhouses. You can see it on Google Earth inland of Adra. Your tomatoes and other crops are grown in these vile places. The ground becomes stale, the plastic breaks down in the sun and the plot is abandoned and a new one bulldozed out of the hill.The vast amount of water consumed has lowered the water table. The outside temp might only be 40C but inside it is just unbearable. The workers are often illegals from North Africa who squat on site.

I used to think home grown toms in the Uk were pretty good until I came to Spain. Here the proper varieties ( I call them ugly toms) grown naturally in the open are just unbeatable for taste.

   
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: joff on 15 July 2014, 14:42:08
I'd say they are tasteless because the modern varieties are disease resistant, crop well and most importantly travel well.  Taste is low on priorities. If you ever fly into Spain via Almeria airport you fly over what looks like a giant lake. Close up it is actually hundreds of acres of plastic greenhouses. You can see it on Google Earth inland of Adra. Your tomatoes and other crops are grown in these vile places. The ground becomes stale, the plastic breaks down in the sun and the plot is abandoned and a new one bulldozed out of the hill.The vast amount of water consumed has lowered the water table. The outside temp might only be 40C but inside it is just unbearable. The workers are often illegals from North Africa who squat on site.

I used to think home grown toms in the Uk were pretty good until I came to Spain. Here the proper varieties ( I call them ugly toms) grown naturally in the open are just unbeatable for taste.

   


That's all the Goat S^$t they grow them in :y
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: bago on 15 July 2014, 15:49:24
another reason supermarket toms are tastles is due to them using a chemical in the air to ripen the toms compared to ones you grow your self that  naturally ripen.

Ethylene gas is produced naturally by most fruits, such as tomatoes, bananas, peaches and avocados, and it promotes ripening. Most tomatoes today are picked green and transported unripe to protect them from bruising and spoilage. The green tomatoes are then ripened somewhat artificially by exposing them to ethylene gas. This is generally not done in the supermarket but at the produce distributors that supply local markets.

The early picking, transport and rapid ripening results in the inferior, mealy tomatoes that we have in our grocery stores today. In many cases you are better off using canned tomatoes for cooking than fresh.

It doesn't appear that there is a danger. Keep in mind that the tomatoes naturally produce ethylene gas and are doing so there in the grocery (and on your kitchen counter). Interestingly, ethylene gas was once used as an anesthetic. Long term exposure to lab animals by ethylene gas did show some increase in risk of cancer, but studies of workers that are involved in professions using the gas do not.

It is very likely that it is just as safe for you to eat tomatoes that have been "gassed" as those that "gas themselves" with ethylene gas.

Thanks for writing,

Timothy S. Harlan, M.D.
 Dr. Gourmet
 







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Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: Rods2 on 15 July 2014, 22:32:57
Dwarf beans , cucumber , tomatoes , lettuce , strawberries and hot peppers all doing remarkably well . Just took the beans outside to grow .
Question is will the tomato plant be ok to put outside now as its growing mental and needs more space  :-\

Yes, providing we don't have wet weather and you live in an area susceptible to tomato blight. ???

First tomatoes are turning orange in the greenhouse at the moment. They are an early ripening bush variety that crops well, with good flavour called Tumbler. :y
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: Vamps on 15 July 2014, 22:38:34
Dwarf beans , cucumber , tomatoes , lettuce , strawberries and hot peppers all doing remarkably well . Just took the beans outside to grow .
Question is will the tomato plant be ok to put outside now as its growing mental and needs more space  :-\

Answer me this, Mr Emd?

Why are most supermarket toms (especially the variety they call salad tomatoes) so fooking tasteless?... :-\ :-\

Totally agree with the good Dr....... :(
Our neighbour, sadly passed away this year, used to give us home grown tomatoes, such a huge difference, fresh, a little salt and some cheese, delicious......... :y :y
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 July 2014, 11:05:48
Living on spinach here!  :y  It's gone mad and we've got loads of the stuff!  :)
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: omega3000 on 16 July 2014, 12:04:16
Lovely warm weather is making the fruit and veg flourish  :) Ive been feeding them anyway , only 1 cucumber so far but its massive  :o No sign of tomatoes yet but i did put the plants in late , going to need a bigger greenhouse next year  :)
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: omega3000 on 18 July 2014, 11:42:22
Just ate the first home grown strawberry  :) Very sweet and full of flavour , big fat and juicy  :P :P Now waiting for the rest  ::)
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 July 2014, 11:45:58
I'm looking forward to the runner beans, as you can't beat home grown! Love 'em!  :y
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: omega3000 on 18 July 2014, 11:50:05
I'm looking forward to the runner beans, as you can't beat home grown! Love 'em!  :y

 :y

Waiting for the dwarf beans , lovely with a sunday roast smothered in gravy  :P

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Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: steve6367 on 18 July 2014, 12:44:19
Dwarf beans , cucumber , tomatoes , lettuce , strawberries and hot peppers all doing remarkably well . Just took the beans outside to grow .
Question is will the tomato plant be ok to put outside now as its growing mental and needs more space  :-\

Yes - mine have been outside for 2 months  :y
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: Entwood on 18 July 2014, 12:51:28
Just ate the first home grown strawberry  :) Very sweet and full of flavour , big fat and juicy  :P :P Now waiting for the rest  ::)

:(  Ours are all finished now ... still had many with cream / ice cream and made 8 bottles of jam .. so a decent crop this year :)
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: omega3000 on 18 July 2014, 15:56:21
There's some very odd shaped ones on one plant  ::) They flowered then didnt seem to grow much  :(
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: omega3000 on 19 July 2014, 20:58:12
Had first lettuce for tea today  :D Cucumber plant is looking very sorry for itself though , lower leafs are holed and plant has only produced one cucumber but it was quite big  ???
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: Rods2 on 20 July 2014, 14:50:49
Had first lettuce for tea today  :D Cucumber plant is looking very sorry for itself though , lower leafs are holed and plant has only produced one cucumber but it was quite big  ???

Sounds like slugs and snails are having a feast. Go out after dark, find and splatter them.
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: omega3000 on 20 July 2014, 16:34:15
Had first lettuce for tea today  :D Cucumber plant is looking very sorry for itself though , lower leafs are holed and plant has only produced one cucumber but it was quite big  ???

Sounds like slugs and snails are having a feast. Go out after dark, find and splatter them.

They cant get in the greenhouse , or can they  :-\ Will go out on patrol tonight  >:(
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: omega3000 on 16 September 2014, 16:25:21
All of a sudden there is 9 cucumbers growing  :o :o Tomatoes are mahoosive  :o :D :D Need a decent spell of sunshine to ripen them  ::)
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 16 September 2014, 18:45:51
All of a sudden there is 9 cucumbers growing  :o :o Tomatoes are mahoosive  :o :D :D Need a decent spell of sunshine to ripen them  ::)

Shoulda fed em tomorite or similar  ;)

Middle of Sept now....hope they ripen before we get a frost....my advice would be....as soon as they start to ripen...ie turn orange....pick em and leave them in a sunny window sill...they'll carry on to ripen  :y

I got rid of a big dish of toms the other night turning them into tomato soup.....trouble iv'e another big dish now full now....still, they are in the fridge, so will keep for a while before they get turned into soup as well.

Also Ive got nearly 2kg's of courgettes waiting for me to do summat with them....soup i expect  ::) ;D .... Freeze the soup....great for the winter months  :y
Title: Re: Fruit and veg
Post by: omega3000 on 16 September 2014, 18:58:42
Yep , been feeding them regular ... thanks for that tip about picking them and ripen them on the window , didnt know that  :) This was a single tomato plant i bought for 99p in the sale , it looked pretty decent and has all of a sudden sprouted loads of fruit , big as goose eggs  :o Got it in the greenhouse though  :y