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Title: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: FRE07962128 on 17 June 2008, 14:04:18
With the quick hello and goodbye of a new member, Jelly, perhaps we should all reflect on how this transpired.

Jelly introduced herself as usual, then placed a of "love your pussy", which anyone must realise has a double meaning that could offend.

It was meant I know, as a mature, life experienced, woman who can give as much as she takes on this site, that it was a harmless joke.  But the important thing is Jelly did not think so.  She was new to the site, and like me when I joined, did not really know the content of it, just assumming it was all about Omega's.  I had not seen the General Chat section and did not understand, although perhaps I should have done, the high male orientation of it.

For a new (unknown; what age, what experience of life?) women for a man to say "love your pussy" came across as being very forward, with a sexual overtone which she found offensive and said so.  Instead of all members saying "hold on", sorry for that it was a joke, but very sorry and letting it drop, a further discussion took place on her decision to a) join the site and b) be offended by such comment! :o :o :o :o :o :o

She must have felt (as I would have done) completely intimadated, humilated, and resigned to the belief that joining this site had been a big mistake!  Well done all those who contributed to this! :( :( :(

Although we do involve ourselves in often very daring banter it is not for everyone, especially when they have just joined the site and know no one on it or the flavour of it.  Men and women are different and that is why there are certain laws that protect women from unwarranted sexual harrasment by strangers, which is effectively what happened here! :(

Please, please let us ALL learn from this and find out about a newbie and their character, especially when it is a women, before such 'banter' is entered into, and if that person does complain let's not further distress and anger the individual by questioning their motives.  

Quite simply, do we want new members or not? :-/ :-/ :-/  If you do not this is a great way to lose them! :( :(
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 17 June 2008, 14:15:09
Don't get me wrong here, because I agree with much of the above.

However I still stand by Entwoods comments that your first post on a message board should not be to "warn" another, longer standing, member.

Regardless of whether or not "jelly" took issue with Jimbob's comment, it would have been much more appropriate to drop him a quick PM and chat it through, rather than create a hoo-haa on a message board full of people you don't know...

Plenty of reassurance was given to her both on the thread, and in PM, that everything was meant light heartedly and with good intent.

If she chooses to leave and throw her toys out of the pram, rather than take that on the chin, there's not a lot we can do

Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: FRE07962128 on 17 June 2008, 14:18:34
After reading my comment / observations on the facts behind the case involving new (ex-member) Jelly and the comment "love your pussy", please decide if you can see it it was right for her to find this offensive
or not.  Lizzie :-*
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Vamps on 17 June 2008, 14:21:56
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After reading my comment / observations on the facts behind the case involving new (ex-member) Jelly and the comment "love your pussy", please decide if you can see it it was right for her to find this offensive
or not.  Lizzie :-*

It's not a yes and no answer, perhaps the newbies section was not the best place. There is a poll ging on another thread, this and my other comments are on that. :)
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: FRE07962128 on 17 June 2008, 14:23:21
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Don't get me wrong here, because I agree with much of the above.

However I still stand by Entwoods comments that your first post on a message board should not be to "warn" another, longer standing, member.

Regardless of whether or not "jelly" took issue with Jimbob's comment, it would have been much more appropriate to drop him a quick PM and chat it through, rather than create a hoo-haa on a message board full of people you don't know...

Plenty of reassurance was given to her both on the thread, and in PM, that everything was meant light heartedly and with good intent.

If she chooses to leave and throw her toys out of the pram, rather than take that on the chin, there's not a lot we can do


But James she was NEW to this site and before knowing anything about PM's or what to do in such a situation was bombarded by negative comment after obviously being offended. :-? :-?

Why is it so wrong to complain when this happens as she did?  Can we not take public critism on this site when the original comment has been very public?  After all who PM her to explain the situation?
 :-/ :-/
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Entwood on 17 June 2008, 14:23:37
With respect Lizzie .. I don't think that was the problem at all ....

She obviously knows her way around a forum, by the way she posted an avatar with her first post - that avatar being a prowling cat - just how many "newbies" would be able to do that ??

The problem then came with HER posting which.. in essence.. tried to tell folks what they can and can't post ... like everyone else here .. I thought .. "just who does this kid think she is?" ...

I responded with a PM that she chose to ignore, others responded with even stronger banter ... she waved the red flag, the bulls charged.

Her avatar was a cat .. someone said "nice pussy" .(ok innuendo I know) ... but it could easily be argued that it was HER mind that took it the wrong way .. it MIGHT ( :) ) have been an innocent remark about her pretty picture.

I was always taught to "lurk" and learn how a forum runs before leaping in .....in her case leaping in with a "warning to jimbob" was never going to work ...

Many other newbies have joined and had no problems ... just 'cos this one was an ultrasensitive (or bossy ??) female should make no difference to the nature of the forum.....

As someone once said ... "if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen" .. :)

Just my views .. thats all  :)
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 17 June 2008, 14:23:47
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After reading my comment / observations on the facts behind the case involving new (ex-member) Jelly and the comment "love your pussy", please decide if you can see it it was right for her to find this offensive
or not.  Lizzie :-*

If she found it offensive then that is her choice. It's not wrong to be offended - it's down to individual discretion.

But I still maintain she could have achieved a much better outcome by dealing with it far more effectively and discreetly in PM, rather than come along as a newbie and bash a long standing member on the public boards.

While as a commnity we may well need to learn something - I think Jelly does to - mainly in the form of resillience and tact.


Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Jimbob on 17 June 2008, 14:24:00
I've voted No here, although she obviously did take offence.

She must have been very niave to think an avatar of a cat would be ignored on a predominatley male site.

I did apologise for any offence caused, but maintain she was overly 'touchy' at a bit of very gentle banter.
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: FRE07962128 on 17 June 2008, 14:25:35
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After reading my comment / observations on the facts behind the case involving new (ex-member) Jelly and the comment "love your pussy", please decide if you can see it it was right for her to find this offensive
or not.  Lizzie :-*

It's not a yes and no answer, perhaps the newbies section was not the best place. There is a poll ging on another thread, this and my other comments are on that. :)


But this poll is on a different view point to mine.  That one does not take into account her feelings when mine does and is asking the question on that basis only.
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 17 June 2008, 14:27:16
Lizzie, nobody can "vote" as to whether or not she was right to be offended. it's entirely her discretion... nobody is "wrong" to be offended..
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: FRE07962128 on 17 June 2008, 14:31:43
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With respect Lizzie .. I don't think that was the problem at all ....

She obviously knows her way around a forum, by the way she posted an avatar with her first post - that avatar being a prowling cat - just how many "newbies" would be able to do that ??

The problem then came with HER posting which.. in essence.. tried to tell folks what they can and can't post ... like everyone else here .. I thought .. "just who does this kid think she is?" ...

I responded with a PM that she chose to ignore, others responded with even stronger banter ... she waved the red flag, the bulls charged.

Her avatar was a cat .. someone said "nice pussy" .(ok innuendo I know) ... but it could easily be argued that it was HER mind that took it the wrong way .. it MIGHT ( :) ) have been an innocent remark about her pretty picture.

I was always taught to "lurk" and learn how a forum runs before leaping in .....in her case leaping in with a "warning to jimbob" was never going to work ...

Many other newbies have joined and had no problems ... just 'cos this one was an ultrasensitive (or bossy ??) female should make no difference to the nature of the forum.....

As someone once said ... "if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen" .. :)

Just my views .. thats all  :)


I understand all that Entwood, but although she is probably a wiz kid at computer graphics (and now we shall never know for sure) she could well have been young and immature.  No one is perfect, but she stood no chance against the general attack.  All she wanted to do was join our site, but typically if a woman does something that gives an excuss to others for an attack on her (like post an innocent picture of a cat), she "deserves it".  You may not mean that, but that is what all the comment I have seen so far implies. :(
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Vamps on 17 June 2008, 14:32:48
Well she says she was offended, so presumably she was, and as James says, she has that right.

I think it would be best if there were no further discussion on this, Jelly is probably watching as a guest having a good giggle at all the comments she has stirred up, she must have know what she was getting into having observed.
There are some members of this forum would never be on if they took offence but seem to insist on coming back for more.    
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: FRE07962128 on 17 June 2008, 14:34:12
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Lizzie, nobody can "vote" as to whether or not she was right to be offended. it's entirely her discretion... nobody is "wrong" to be offended..

I have now cancelled the Poll as this male orientated site obviously has been so offended by a woman being offended! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 17 June 2008, 14:34:18
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she could well have been young and immature.  

I doubt that.
She was 48 years old and drove a V6 Vauxhall Omega!
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 17 June 2008, 14:35:09
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Lizzie, nobody can "vote" as to whether or not she was right to be offended. it's entirely her discretion... nobody is "wrong" to be offended..

I have now cancelled the Poll as this male orientated site obviously has been so offended by a woman being offended! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Lizzie - Lizzie! All I said is that it WASN'T wrong for her to be offended - what's so bad about that?
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: LJay on 17 June 2008, 14:36:11
Ok so maybe we didnt deal with her very well but she did have a pic of a nice pussy! jimbob and i have owned cats for many years! she could have privately brought her dislike of james comment to his attention without being so openly agressive! For all she knew it was a genuine observation of her avatar, she lowered the tone!

Does any one else feel like a naughty child, for daring to stand up for some one!? :(
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Martin_1962 on 17 June 2008, 14:40:01
Show a ca and you will get cat, pussy, pussy cat, meaow and all other cat related jokes.

I always think of the Are you being served jokes when pussy cats are mentioned
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Jimbob on 17 June 2008, 14:42:03
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Show a ca and you will get cat, pussy, pussy cat, meaow and all other cat related jokes.

I always think of the Are you being served jokes when pussy cats are mentioned


A Very good point Mr Imber!

The BBC found it fine to joke about Mrs Slowcomes's Pussy on primetime telly in the 70's

Yet the same thing here in 2008 is Sexual Harrasment apparently

(Which I could take real offence to, but wont)
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: FRE07962128 on 17 June 2008, 14:44:19
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Ok so maybe we didnt deal with her very well but she did have a pic of a nice pussy! jimbob and i have owned cats for many years! she could have privately brought her dislike of james comment to his attention without being so openly agressive! For all she knew it was a genuine observation of her avatar, she lowered the tone!

Does any one else feel like a naughty child, for daring to stand up for some one!? :(


Yes that is exactly how I'm feeling right this minute!  >:( >:( We have lost a member through a careless sexual remark, and I am in the wrong for trying to help members (including ME!) see how and why!

Perhaps, as a woman, I should not be here!  I going out now before I do something silly! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 17 June 2008, 14:48:06
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Ok so maybe we didnt deal with her very well but she did have a pic of a nice pussy! jimbob and i have owned cats for many years! she could have privately brought her dislike of james comment to his attention without being so openly agressive! For all she knew it was a genuine observation of her avatar, she lowered the tone!

Does any one else feel like a naughty child, for daring to stand up for some one!? :(


Yes that is exactly how I'm feeling right this minute!  >:( >:( We have lost a member through a careless sexual remark, and I am in the wrong for trying to help members (including ME!) see how and why!

Perhaps, as a woman, I should not be here!  I going out now before I do something silly! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

I think chilling is a very good idea.

Ultimately, all please remember, that JimBob's has stated re. his comment

A) That is wasn't meant to cause any offence
B) He apologised for it
C) Pussy is also a long standing word for a cat, and is open to individual interpretation. You cannot guarantee the context it was meant in
D) Despite the fact that jimbob had it about him to apologise - nobody has turned around to him and said "apology accepted"

This is well out of hand
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Vamps on 17 June 2008, 14:51:04
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Ok so maybe we didnt deal with her very well but she did have a pic of a nice pussy! jimbob and i have owned cats for many years! she could have privately brought her dislike of james comment to his attention without being so openly agressive! For all she knew it was a genuine observation of her avatar, she lowered the tone!

Does any one else feel like a naughty child, for daring to stand up for some one!? :(


Yes that is exactly how I'm feeling right this minute!  >:( >:( We have lost a member through a careless sexual remark, and I am in the wrong for trying to help members (including ME!) see how and why!

Perhaps, as a woman, I should not be here!  I going out now before I do something silly! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

I think chilling is a very good idea.

Ultimately, all please remember, that JimBob's has stated re. his comment

A) That is wasn't meant to cause any offence
B) He apologised for it
C) Pussy is also a long standing word for a cat, and is open to individual interpretation. You cannot guarantee the context it was meant in
D) Despite the fact that jimbob had it about him to apologise - nobody has turned around to him and said "apology accepted"

This is well out of hand
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Fully agree James.
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Martin_1962 on 17 June 2008, 14:51:08
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Show a ca and you will get cat, pussy, pussy cat, meaow and all other cat related jokes.

I always think of the Are you being served jokes when pussy cats are mentioned


A Very good point Mr Imber!

The BBC found it fine to joke about Mrs Slowcomes's Pussy on primetime telly in the 70's

Yet the same thing here in 2008 is Sexual Harrasment apparently

(Which I could take real offence to, but wont)


I think it is Mr ex Purple Plums is that either Jelly was out to provoke, or more likely a rather stuck up repressed sort or person.

I am careful what I use on a forum and tend to test the water carefully, until I know the the place, a lot different here as I was one of the first in ;D

As to if she came back - if she needs help she will but not as Jelly. Checked somewhere else :-X - not posted in there at all, (nor have many others ;D)

I think what didn't help too much and I am not telling off complaining or anything like that was the robust defence of you by Mrs Bump.  I would expect similar from Sue if she was on the same forum as me.
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: LJay on 17 June 2008, 14:52:21
Hey ho! I still maintain its her own doing!
I dont understand women who expect to join a car forum,which is male dominated, who think they can come in and demand things be changed to suit them!
Sexual harrassment, my ass!

 >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Vamps on 17 June 2008, 14:53:37
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Hey ho! I still maintain its her own doing!
I dont understand women who expect to join a car forum,which is male dominated, who think they can come in and demand things be changed to suit them!
Sexual harrassment, my ass!
 >:( >:( >:(

Have you fallen again ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: markey mark on 17 June 2008, 14:54:34
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Hey ho! I still maintain its her own doing!
I dont understand women who expect to join a car forum,which is male dominated, who think they can come in and demand things be changed to suit them!
Sexual harrassment, my ass!

 >:( >:( >:(

well said ljay  :y
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: unclelicklug on 17 June 2008, 14:59:49
No good can come of continuing a discussion like this one!!

It's not one where there can be a consensus at the end so FWIW I would advise everyone to 'leave it at that' despite the overwhelming temptation to have that all important last word.

Go in peace.
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Marie on 17 June 2008, 15:00:30
AS A WOMAN!!!!!!

i personally think that its time to MOVE ON! their is no point to the IF's AND's ands BUT'S.

We are all intitaled to our own opinion's.

Enough has been said on this matter and just think how it looks to a guest lookin on the forum.  :-/
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Entwood on 17 June 2008, 15:05:42
Before this turns into a really bad them Vs them sexual thing, as it seems to be developing ....

How do we know this "jelly" was a woman ?? she ticked a gender box in her profile and in her post that started the whole thing used the phrase, after Lizzie "assumed" she was a woman .... the only "proof" is her comment

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It was especially nice to hear from Lizzie, being a woman.

which could actually be read 2 ways ..

now on  T'internet .. if it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck, its probably a photoshopped elephant ....

so lets not get all male V female on this .... the more I've read all three threads the more I think "troll", "wind up" etc etc

We only have a few of the "gentle sex" (???  :) ), please don't get all huffy and antagonistic, we need your tender input ...  :y :y :y :y

:)
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: FRE07962128 on 17 June 2008, 17:37:40
I am saying no more on this.  I have made my views known and other people have made theirs. That is democracy! :y :y

Peace to all! :y :y
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Markie on 17 June 2008, 17:44:57
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I've voted No here, although she obviously did take offence.

She must have been very niave to think an avatar of a cat would be ignored on a predominatley male site.

I did apologise for any offence caused, but maintain she was overly 'touchy' at a bit of very gentle banter.


So Jimbob - you gave a new member a backhanded compliment  ;).

One wonders of the reaction if you had mentioned that you didnt like the aformentioned feline creature  :-/

Time to move on as opinions differ on this and each to their own..
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Elite Pete on 17 June 2008, 17:47:06
I think your spot on Lizzie :y

I dont swear in front of my wife, she doesn't like swearing and I wont swear in front of anyone elses wife until they swear at me ;D
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Markie on 17 June 2008, 17:48:43
can i just point out that my avatar has ALWAYS had that text under it  :-[ :( ;D
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: CaptainZok on 17 June 2008, 17:49:39
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can i just point out that my avatar has ALWAYS had that text under it  :-[ :( ;D
Nice pussy mate ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: FRE07962128 on 17 June 2008, 17:51:26
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I think your spot on Lizzie :y

I dont swear in front of my wife, she doesn't like swearing and I wont swear in front of anyone elses wife until they swear at me ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Markie on 17 June 2008, 17:52:57
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can i just point out that my avatar has ALWAYS had that text under it  :-[ :( ;D
Nice pussy mate ;D ;D ;D


Thanks Captain - was feeling kinda left out  ;D
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 June 2008, 17:55:28
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I think your spot on Lizzie :y

I dont swear in front of my wife, she doesn't like swearing and I wont swear in front of anyone elses wife until they swear at me ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)

Not going to comment on how long that would take in my wife's case. :-X

Kevin
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Elite Pete on 17 June 2008, 17:57:07
I hope you've given that pussy of yours a good thrashing Markie :D
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: TheBoy on 17 June 2008, 18:50:07
I agree with Lizzies post 100% :(
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: FRE07962128 on 17 June 2008, 18:53:21
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I agree with Lizzies post 100% :(


Thanks for that, much appreciated.  I thought for a bit it was just me going insane again!
 ;D :y :, ;D
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: ians on 17 June 2008, 18:56:38
you don't know which post he was agreeing with.. ;) :)
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: FRE07962128 on 17 June 2008, 19:01:13
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you don't know which post he was agreeing with.. ;) :)


Don't tempt me Ian.......no nothing more I want to say! ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 17 June 2008, 19:02:19
I think it should all be put to bed now.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk106/skruntie/crushed_kitty.jpg)

Night night.  ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: FRE07962128 on 17 June 2008, 19:05:47
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I think it should all be put to bed now.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk106/skruntie/crushed_kitty.jpg)

Night night.  ;D ;D ;D :y

Ahhhhhhhhh!  Skruntie is that you with your cat?  If you want to increase your bust size try tissues! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Debs. on 17 June 2008, 19:11:21
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I think it should all be put to bed now.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk106/skruntie/crushed_kitty.jpg)

Night night.  ;D ;D ;D :y

Is it ok not to be offended by that image? ::)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 17 June 2008, 19:13:42
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I think it should all be put to bed now.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk106/skruntie/crushed_kitty.jpg)

Night night.  ;D ;D ;D :y

Is it ok not to be offended by that image? ::)

 ;D ;D ;D

Well, it's cute, soft, cuddly and the puss kitten is cute as well.
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: razzo on 17 June 2008, 19:19:58
after the hundreds & thousands of posts
i feel this a trifle over the top
Jelly has thrown a wobbly
& Jimbob should be taken into custardy  :D
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 17 June 2008, 19:21:14
PMSL    ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Debs. on 17 June 2008, 19:22:58
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after the hundreds & thousands of posts
i feel this a trifle over the top
Jelly has thrown a wobbly
& Jimbob should be taken into custardy  :D

....and somebody get their just desserts! ;D
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: TheBoy on 17 June 2008, 19:27:09
Jelly was obviously offended, but when she said that got attacked by everyone.

Did she overreact? Bear in mind she was a new member, we know nothing about her.  A bunch of strangers said something that made her uncomfortable, and when she mentioned this, all she got was abuse back.  So, probably No, I don't think she overreacted.

Had she have been here longer and that happened, then I would say it may have been an overreaction.  But remember, for all we know, this may have been the first internet community she'd ever joined.
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 17 June 2008, 19:33:55
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Firstly, may I take the opportunity to thank the many people who welcomed me to the Forum

It was especially nice to hear from Lizzie, being a woman.

I've owned several Omega's think they are fantastic cars, and I'm sure the Forum will be of a big help to me, with its blend of technical knowledge chat and humour.
I don't appreciate school boy humour Jimbob, please in future keep comments like that to your self


I actually got the impression she had been a guest for quite a while and decided to join.

It's a shame that not everyone shares the same sence of humour.  But at the end of the day you cant please everyone.  That's what makes us all different.
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Big_Al on 17 June 2008, 19:37:55
Flippin' 'Eck  -- I've missed all this.

But I'm so glad that I changed my signiture recently.

It used to say "My 3.0  V6 purrs like a  P###y (That "P" word)

Reading through most of this - it does  seem a bit blown out of proportion to me :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: TheBoy on 17 June 2008, 19:38:51
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Firstly, may I take the opportunity to thank the many people who welcomed me to the Forum

It was especially nice to hear from Lizzie, being a woman.

I've owned several Omega's think they are fantastic cars, and I'm sure the Forum will be of a big help to me, with its blend of technical knowledge chat and humour.
I don't appreciate school boy humour Jimbob, please in future keep comments like that to your self


I actually got the impression she had been a guest for quite a while and decided to join.

It's a shame that not everyone shares the same sence of humour.  But at the end of the day you cant please everyone.  That's what makes us all different.
As I have said before, almost anything goes in genchat, so if you can't take the heat, keep out of the fire.  Other sections, inc newbie section, are different.
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 17 June 2008, 19:40:17
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Firstly, may I take the opportunity to thank the many people who welcomed me to the Forum

It was especially nice to hear from Lizzie, being a woman.

I've owned several Omega's think they are fantastic cars, and I'm sure the Forum will be of a big help to me, with its blend of technical knowledge chat and humour.
I don't appreciate school boy humour Jimbob, please in future keep comments like that to your self


I actually got the impression she had been a guest for quite a while and decided to join.

It's a shame that not everyone shares the same sence of humour.  But at the end of the day you cant please everyone.  That's what makes us all different.
As I have said before, almost anything goes in genchat, so if you can't take the heat, keep out of the fire.  Other sections, inc newbie section, are different.

Fair comment and taken on board.  :y :y
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: TheBoy on 17 June 2008, 19:40:18
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Flippin' 'Eck  -- I've missed all this.

But I'm so glad that I changed my signiture recently.

It used to say "My 3.0  V6 purrs like a  P###y (That "P" word)

Reading through most of this - it does  seem a bit blown out of proportion to me :-[ :-[ :-[
The original comment? Yes.  The way the new member was made to feel unwelcome after mentioning, no.
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Debs. on 17 June 2008, 19:41:05
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Flippin' 'Eck  -- I've missed all this.

But I'm so glad that I changed my signiture recently.

It used to say "My 3.0  V6 purrs like a  P###y (That "P" word)

Reading through most of this - it does  seem a bit blown out of proportion to me :-[ :-[ :-[

"Rusty Doors".....wasn`t he a Country & Western singer?  ;D
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: amigov6 on 17 June 2008, 20:16:43
On reading through this post a sense of impending doom came over me. I'm sure some time ago i left such a post but on reading further it appears to be another member although i'm still not certain. :-/ Despite my occasional rant & over reaction i was brought up to be polite & respectful to the fairer sex, elders, friends parents etc. No offence meant but that's what was drilled into me 40 odd years ago.
   I honestly cant remember whether i was involved but it is the sort of thing i'd say in a humorous vein. I'm happy to be named & shamed if guilty & proffer my apologies.
     I do think there's an element of overkill here but none the less manners cost nothing.
           Guy.
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: DC on 17 June 2008, 21:43:45
Theboy, my question after all this is what happens with Jimbobs posts? ::)
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: amigov6 on 17 June 2008, 21:58:53
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Theboy, my question after all this is what happens with Jimbobs posts? ::)
Nothing. I've looked around & caught up a bit & whilst i hold with what i said about good manners this is needless. It's obvious to a 5 yr old no offence was meant for crying out loud. For those offended or crusading, get a grip.
    I've spent an hour or two worrying i'd offended a lady member(i know i put my foot in it sometimes), & all over a cat?
     Mountains, molehills....no need.
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: FRE07962128 on 17 June 2008, 22:06:52
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Theboy, my question after all this is what happens with Jimbobs posts? ::)
Nothing. I've looked around & caught up a bit & whilst i hold with what i said about good manners this is needless. It's obvious to a 5 yr old no offence was meant for crying out loud. For those offended or crusading, get a grip.
    I've spent an hour or two worrying i'd offended a lady member(i know i put my foot in it sometimes), & all over a cat?
     Mountains, molehills....no need.

Too late Amigo she has gone! :(
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: DC on 17 June 2008, 22:07:25
Was just kidding.
Maybe it was actually not a cat after all and thats why she got ofended.
I would be upset too if you called my dog a rat.
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: FRE07962128 on 17 June 2008, 22:09:22
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Was just kidding.
Maybe it was actually not a cat after all and thats why she got ofended.
I would be upset too if you called my dog a rat.[/quote]

All depends what breed it is!
 ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: DC on 17 June 2008, 22:13:48
Don't start it. Have been on this forum long enough not to get upset. (Besides where else would I find help for my car)
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: FRE07962128 on 17 June 2008, 22:18:43
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Don't start it. Have been on this forum long enough not to get upset. (Besides where else would I find help for my car)


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: amigov6 on 17 June 2008, 22:24:51
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Theboy, my question after all this is what happens with Jimbobs posts? ::)
Nothing. I've looked around & caught up a bit & whilst i hold with what i said about good manners this is needless. It's obvious to a 5 yr old no offence was meant for crying out loud. For those offended or crusading, get a grip.
    I've spent an hour or two worrying i'd offended a lady member(i know i put my foot in it sometimes), & all over a cat?
     Mountains, molehills....no need.

Too late Amigo she has gone! :(
That's a shame Lizzie. Seems it was'nt me after all although i'm sure i left someone a playful likewise post in the dim & distant. Regardless i still feel she took it to heart. I should know, i can take offence (wrongly) to things sometimes. ::)
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: FRE07962128 on 17 June 2008, 22:39:39
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Theboy, my question after all this is what happens with Jimbobs posts? ::)
Nothing. I've looked around & caught up a bit & whilst i hold with what i said about good manners this is needless. It's obvious to a 5 yr old no offence was meant for crying out loud. For those offended or crusading, get a grip.
    I've spent an hour or two worrying i'd offended a lady member(i know i put my foot in it sometimes), & all over a cat?
     Mountains, molehills....no need.

Too late Amigo she has gone! :(
That's a shame Lizzie. Seems it was'nt me after all although i'm sure i left someone a playful likewise post in the dim & distant. Regardless i still feel she took it to heart. I should know, i can take offence (wrongly) to things sometimes. ::)

No Amigo! I think it was all of us, even with my feeble attempts to stop it like the woman sticking her finger in the hole of the Dyke!  Now us mature members can understand the double meaning of this and accept it!
 ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: JiMbOb789 on 18 June 2008, 10:19:07
i think i better apologies because i shouldnt have really got involved ::)
But like some people said, you should read through the forum first :y
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Jay w on 18 June 2008, 17:04:11
i have read all the threads that have been related to this, and i suppose there are two sides to the argument.

i'm not going to cast blame as i believe we are all adults and as such should be able to sort out issues like this.

Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Albatross on 18 June 2008, 22:12:45
Jay!

You beat me to it on the avatar!!!

You have a massive cock there ;D
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Debs. on 18 June 2008, 22:16:47
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Jay!

You beat me to it on the avatar!!!

You have a massive cock there ;D

 ;D A proper "Man-Size" cock; in fact! ;D
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Vamps on 18 June 2008, 22:20:13
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Jay!

You beat me to it on the avatar!!!

You have a massive cock there ;D

 ;D A proper "Man-Size" cock; in fact! ;D

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :y
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 18 June 2008, 22:21:32
I'm lost for words.
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Jay w on 18 June 2008, 23:01:20
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I'm lost for words.

in a good or bad way James?
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Vamps on 18 June 2008, 23:04:28
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I'm lost for words.

in a good or bad way James?

Be wary of misinterpreting  :-X
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: LJay on 19 June 2008, 11:53:35
Lol! Think this household should stay schtum in future!!  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: Vamps on 19 June 2008, 22:00:17
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Lol! Think this household should stay schtum in future!!  ::) ::) ::)

 :-X
Title: Re: Lessons to be learnt
Post by: amigov6 on 19 June 2008, 22:19:44
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Jay!You beat me to it on the avatar!!!You have a massive cock there ;D
 ;D A proper "Man-Size" cock; in fact! ;D
I'm really NOT offended at lady members commenting on the size of our poultry. It may indeed be a small organ but it's not accustomed to playing in a cathedral!!!!!!!!!!! ::) Coat please......