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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Elmstoneboy on 29 August 2014, 22:20:37
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It has been mentioned a few times on the forum about re-setting the auto box with a couple of presses of the snow button.
What is the actual procedure for this, should the car be moving or stationary, in park or drive, how quick or slow pressing the button ??? What does it actually reset???
Sorry wrong section, could somebody move me please.
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It has been mentioned a few times on the forum about re-setting the auto box with a couple of presses of the snow button.
What is the actual procedure for this, should the car be moving or stationary, in park or drive, how quick or slow pressing the button ??? What does it actually reset???
Pressing the snow button resets nothing. What you might be getting confused with is that when the gearbox is cold it'll tend to hold onto 1st gear for longer. Some press the snow button in this situation to stop the car from over revving. ;)
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Ah, good point Andy. Hadn't thought of that one. Thanks for the tip.
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Engine management is set to rev to 3k rpm when driven from cold, to warm that cats quicker to improve emissions test results. Pressing either sport mode or snow button will "reset" it to change as normal.
...sometimes. I find that once snow mode or sport button are pressed again back to normal drive, the high rpm mode continues again. So I tend not to bother personally.
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Thanks Gents, another mystery of the Omega solved.
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Engine management is set to rev to 3k rpm when driven from cold, to warm that cats quicker to improve emissions test results. Pressing either sport mode or snow button will "reset" it to change as normal.
...sometimes. I find that once snow mode or sport button are pressed again back to normal drive, the high rpm mode continues again. So I tend not to bother personally.
After 4 Omegas I didn't know that. I knew it happened, but didn't know why. :y
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well Rog I didn't know that either mind you mine never did hold the lower gears when cold until Daz looked at it :y
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It is in the top ten most annoying features of an Omega. Totally unnecessary and wholly uncivilised if you live in a quiet residential area and need to get moving to work at more than 2mph. If only it could be turned off >:( >:( >:(
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..... If only it could be turned off >:( >:( >:(
You can .... press the snow button ;) ;)
The Smart does similar, it'll hang on to first gear for ages first thing in the morning, unless you manually put it into 2nd :y
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..... If only it could be turned off >:( >:( >:(
You can .... press the snow button ;) ;)
The Smart does similar, it'll hang on to first gear for ages first thing in the morning, unless you manually put it into 2nd :y
Andy my dear... if i'd wanted to press buttons all day i'd have learnt to play the ****ing clarinet :D As it happens I'm quite enamored with the concept of " A U T O M A T I C " ;D
Aside from which I tried it earlier on... did sod all... and didn't appear to show a light anywhere to say it was "on" ? ???
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..... If only it could be turned off >:( >:( >:(
You can .... press the snow button ;) ;)
The Smart does similar, it'll hang on to first gear for ages first thing in the morning, unless you manually put it into 2nd :y
Andy my dear... if i'd wanted to press buttons all day i'd have learnt to play the ****ing clarinet :D As it happens I'm quite enamored with the concept of " A U T O M A T I C " ;D
Aside from which I tried it earlier on... did sod all... and didn't appear to show a light anywhere to say it was "on" ? ???
The snow flake should get a bit brighter .... you should be able to tell if it's done anything because you'll be pulling away from a standstill in 3rd gear :y
I can manage 3 blind Mice on a clarinet ;) ;)
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..... If only it could be turned off >:( >:( >:(
You can .... press the snow button ;) ;)
The Smart does similar, it'll hang on to first gear for ages first thing in the morning, unless you manually put it into 2nd :y
Andy my dear... if i'd wanted to press buttons all day i'd have learnt to play the ****ing clarinet :D As it happens I'm quite enamored with the concept of " A U T O M A T I C " ;D
Aside from which I tried it earlier on... did sod all... and didn't appear to show a light anywhere to say it was "on" ? ???
That told you Andy........... :D :D :D
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That told you Andy........... :D :D :D
Seems like it ::) ::)
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While on the subject of the snow button, just what does it do? I know it locks it in 3rd gear, but also, when just sitting stationary with hand brake on or off, gear in drive, and engine just ticking over, when I push the button, there is about a 4 second delay and then the rear of the car pops up, probably about 20mm or at least enough to notice and when I push the button again it drops back down again. Is it lifting the suspension??? Any idea's or answers?? :-\
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While on the subject of the snow button, just what does it do? I know it locks it in 3rd gear, but also, when just sitting stationary with hand brake on or off, gear in drive, and engine just ticking over, when I push the button, there is about a 4 second delay and then the rear of the car pops up, probably about 20mm or at least enough to notice and when I push the button again it drops back down again. Is it lifting the suspension??? Any idea's or answers?? :-\
Yes. Same as applying the handbrake does when applying a bit of clutch on a manual. You can make the rear of the car rise and fall. Same thing but in an auto, which does it in any forward gear.
Pulling away in third is meant to apply less torque to the rear wheels to minimise wheel spin. Other than that I'm not sure of the question tbh. Although the delay might imply the ATF needs changing....? Does it thump when engaging gears?
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While on the subject of the snow button, just what does it do? I know it locks it in 3rd gear, but also, when just sitting stationary with hand brake on or off, gear in drive, and engine just ticking over, when I push the button, there is about a 4 second delay and then the rear of the car pops up, probably about 20mm or at least enough to notice and when I push the button again it drops back down again. Is it lifting the suspension??? Any idea's or answers?? :-\
Thought it was for making snow. . . . But I've never wanted any, so I've never pressed it ::)
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While on the subject of the snow button, just what does it do? I know it locks it in 3rd gear, but also, when just sitting stationary with hand brake on or off, gear in drive, and engine just ticking over, when I push the button, there is about a 4 second delay and then the rear of the car pops up, probably about 20mm or at least enough to notice and when I push the button again it drops back down again. Is it lifting the suspension??? Any idea's or answers?? :-\
Yes. Same as applying the handbrake does when applying a bit of clutch on a manual. You can make the rear of the car rise and fall. Same thing but in an auto, which does it in any forward gear.
Pulling away in third is meant to apply less torque to the rear wheels to minimise wheel spin. Other than that I'm not sure of the question tbh. Although the delay might imply the ATF needs changing....? Does it thump when engaging gears?
No, the ATF was all changed last year, both sumps, and no thumping from the box, very smooth. I know what you mean about the riding up on the handbrake, but it does it with the handbrake off and just sitting there and it doesn't make the car start to roll. When you switch off the snow button the car drops back down again. It's not a problem, just curious as to what it's doing.
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It's engaging and disengaging third gear as and when you press the button. The rise and fall is part if that. Nothing to worry about.
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The rise and fall is to do with the direction the dif turns as drive is engaged. The dif is attached to the body, the driveshafts are attached to the wheels. The suspension connects the two. So the result is a squat at the back, especially at the top of the suspension travel where the progressive rate springs are relatively weakest. The car doesn't move forward due to the friction provided by the contact patch if the tyres. Increase the pressures significantly, add a load on the car and/or add a slope and that will affect things regarding creep at tickover.
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Thanks Gents :y
Fascinating things these Omigas aren't they.
Had a 2.5 manual pre-facelift from new for 15 years, and it now seems quite basic
compared to the Facelift. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a fart sensors in the seats :o :-[
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Thanks Gents :y
Fascinating things these Omigas aren't they.
Had a 2.5 manual pre-facelift from new for 15 years, and it now seems quite basic
compared to the Facelift. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a fart sensors in the seats :o :-[
You have to provide your own fart sensor. It usually sits in the front passenger seat and rebukes you with a "Dirty bastard!" If you let one go.
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STMO, I think those sensors come as standard - thanks for the larf, I have tears!
;D
Ron.